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The matter of the universe is indeed contained inside space. Space is infinite. The universe is not. The space was there before the big bang that lead to the universe as it is now... How do you think the universe is able to expand? It must expand into something that is there. Such as empty space...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That was relying on the assumption that space, like 0, is an infinite set... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sometimes, to formulate a possible theory with lack of hard evidence, you have to make some assumptions.

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Why is 0 an infinite set? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Add http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif me

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is closed under addition and multiplication. More precisely, I should say that it spans an infinite set...

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I don't think zero gives an infinite result when you divide something by it. In order to divide something, you have to have something to divide it by.

That is, if that's what your talking about.

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0 is not an infinitive set, because 0 plus any number = that number, but not an equipotent infinitive set http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Nevermind...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As I thought, your terminology is confusing everyone.

When most people hear the word "space" in this kind of context, they think of the Big Black in between the stars and planets. The point many of us are trying to make is that this "Big Black" is different to the "space" beyond the borders fo the universe.

You weretherefore causing a confusion between the "space" between the planets and the "space" beyond the universe's edge.

Unless you are actually asserting that the space between the planets is fundamentally the same as whatever is beyond the universe- ie, to fit Geo's metaphor, 'there is no box'. Otherwise, "emptiness" might be good word substitution for "space" in your Last few Posts..?

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[ May 21, 2004, 08:21: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually to get really bizarre, there is some theoretical work going on in that regard. It may turn out that this is not true at all. The universe might be expanding into itself, warping and folding, and so not actually changing it's total volume. It's all very confusing actually. I don't nearly understand it. I just like to read it sometimes and let the ideas wash over my brain. It's better then chemical stimulation I'll tell you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif