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Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

Okay, Argitoth has sent in his turn, so we've begun the timer. I've set it at 36 hours for this next turn, will reduce to 24 shortly.

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Originally posted by Tuidjy:
I tried 2.12, and the server must have
crashed. I have never seen a patch that breaks
games in such an insidious way. What the hell
is wrong with a simple Version check, and FORCING
clients to have the right Version before playing?

You must not have seen a lot of patches. Sure, you can ask for a simple Version check, but that would require ANOTHER patch(augh). And after this one, I'd really rather not ask Illwinter for another patch. I'd just as soon see that this to be the Last patch.

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Originally posted by Tuidjy:
I appologize, and I am
sure that Norfleet will just erase my stupid turn
and everything will fine.

Deleted! Resubmit, this time without the funny new Version.

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Originally posted by Daynarr:
Maybe its not a bad idea to upgrade this game to 2.12 as well. Since Mosehansen has upgraded their server most players will have their Version upgraded as well. Having different Versions can confuse people and cause more errors like this.

Except that I have concerns that this will break people's pretenders. Since 2.12 added nothing that I actually care for or about, and some of the clan and several others frown upon it, at this present time, I have no compelling reason to change anything. If these problems become more frequent, and I receive reports that it is "safe", then I will consider it: Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Since 2.12 added nothing that I actually care for or about, and some of the clan and several others frown upon it, at this present time, I have no compelling reason to change anything.

If I frown on it too, can I be in the clan?

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

Nagot gick fel!

Dominions Version is too old
Get an update at www.illwinter.com
myVersion209 fileVersion212

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This is what I get when I try my 2.11 Version.
Hmm... Maybe if I erase the game file... No,
there was no game file for Play the world.
Well, I can always reinstall.

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

It looks like Jotunheim was responsible for that one. Who's our Jotunheim player again?

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

Norfleet, I have the save vampire queen in Faerun as I have in Play the World, and it seems to be doing fine in 2.12. Maybe you should upgrade the server.

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Wooops. I think I just uploaded a 2.12 turn. I just wanted to check my turn, and hit the wrong shortcut. This REALLY wasn't done deliberately to convince you to upgrade...

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Yay! It was not me! How could have I ever thought it was me... I am too careful for that!

[ June 10, 2004, 00:09: Message edited by: Yvelina ]

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

Now I killed it. I'm Sorry.

Every other game I am in has been updated to 2.12.

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So do I need to upgrade?

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

What's with all this talk of "the clan?"

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
No. We're not upgrading the server, so upgrading Dominions II would actually cause more problems. With the way the new patch has been received in the clan, this is not likely a move that will meet with approval: The opinions on the patch run from "Meh, where's my Skratti and Great Warlock?" to things which are far less positive and not fit for repetition here. The move was soundly voted down by 4 nays to 1 abstention. Patching does not look to be in the future of the server.

I must say that I find the reasons strange to put it mildly. Mosehansen has updated all his games and they work fine, no problems with pretenders or ongoing games. Patch does have lots of fixes to both network and balance issues and has no "problems" that come with it. Also, no one will report if the patch is ok or not to you so you will have to check the Boards to see if there are any problems with the patch. Finally, the game has barely started; even if there were problems with pretenders it wouldn�t take such a big effort to restart it in vanilla 2.12.

As far as your clan goes, I don't care about what they vote or say since they are not playing this game. It's your game and you set the rules, but I have right to choose to participate or not. Your clan or anyone else that doesn�t play has no business setting the rules or voting for anything concerning this game. I hope we understand each other.

[ June 10, 2004, 16:28: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

Re: MP Game - Play The World: CANCELLED

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Originally posted by Daynarr:
Mosehansen has updated all his games and they work fine, no problems with pretenders or ongoing games.

That remains to be seen. The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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Patch does have lots of fixes to both network

This does not concern a Linux server.

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and balance issues and has no "problems" that come with it.

And these changes run the risk of setting off Illwinter's new and apparently overzealous alarm system, which DOES appear to be a problem, given that somebody has reported it already.

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Also, no one will report if the patch is ok or not to you so you will have to check the Boards to see if there are any problems with the patch.

I have. There are. This is not convincing me to shoehorn a switch.

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Finally, the game has barely started; even if there were problems with pretenders it wouldn�t take such a big effort to restart it in vanilla 2.12.

Given the amount of hassle and trouble this game has already gone through to get started, I'd rather cancel it than run into more problems. Lately I've been becoming more unfond of the place anyway, as I've stated at the beginning of the thread.

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It's your game and you set the rules, but I have right to choose to participate or not.

Am I to understand you are quitting, then?

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Your clan or anyone else that doesn�t play has no business setting the rules or voting for anything concerning this game. I hope we understand each other.

The voting does not concern the game: It concerns the server: Since the clan games consist of more than half the server's active games, if the adoption of the patch is seen as so unpopular that it's voted down unanimously with the exception of my abstention, it's not going to be a popular move. It's also not actually my server, so unless somebody has directions for how to make two Versions coexist in Linux, the patch is a no-go.