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HotNifeThruButr June 19th, 2004 01:25 AM

Re: How would you patch this game?
 
[quote]Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
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I would like to see mercenary leaders recruit new troops. I mean, what are they spending their money for?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why, beer and wenches of course. I like the idea of picking an item from a construction level. What if it depends on how long into the game it is? Like, if there match is in turns 1-10, you pick from this level, if it's in 11-20, this level, if it's in 21-40, it's this level, and so on and so forth.

Edit: This thread is like an amoeba, it splits into many different threads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

[ June 19, 2004, 00:28: Message edited by: HotNifeThruButr ]

Yossar June 19th, 2004 03:00 AM

Re: How would you patch this game?
 
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Originally posted by HotNifeThruButr:
Well Yossar, I suppose you'd be right. It's only bad if you casted with the bare minimum of skill. But how much skill do you need for it to match the economy of the level 3 spell?

I'm using these numbers, which are from memory:

1 frost fiend/6 slaves for the basic spell.

base of 6 frost fiends/50 slaves for force spell.

Every level above min gives 1 extra fiend
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Each fiend costs (slaves/fiends) 8.33 slaves using force at 5 blood skill.

Each fiend costs 7.14 slaves using force at 6 skill.

Each fiend costs 6.25 slaves using force at 7 skill

Each fiend costs 5.55 slaves using force at 8

You start getting more economical at 8 skill, make of it what you will...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">When you use the actual numbers instead of the ones in your head, the Forces spells look a lot better.

Bind Frost Fiend - 1 Fiend / 6 slaves
Forces of Ice - 8+ / 50 slaves

At 5 blood skill it costs 6.25 slaves per fiend.

At 6 blood skill it costs 5.55 slaves per fiend.

You start getting more economical at 6 skill, make of it what you will...

Edit to add 6B2W isn't too hard to get. Say, A 2B2W Mictlan Rain priest with a blood thorn, brazen vessel, Armor of Souls, and Ring of Sorcery. 6B2F is even easier as Mictlan since the Sun King starts with 3BF2. Abysia can also easily get 6 or 7 blood and 2 in an elemental with the same equipment (possibly a ring of wizardry instead of sorcery) and a warlock with a random in the right area.

[ June 19, 2004, 02:11: Message edited by: Yossar ]

Graeme Dice June 19th, 2004 03:29 AM

Re: How would you patch this game?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Yossar:
Edit to add 6B2W isn't too hard to get. Say, A 2B2W Mictlan Rain priest with a blood thorn, brazen vessel, Armor of Souls, and Ring of Sorcery.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Mictlan doesn't have access to a ring of sorcery unless you have put astral magic on your pretender, or have empowered a moon priest. Even so, the spells are hardly worth it.

Yossar June 19th, 2004 08:52 AM

Re: How would you patch this game?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Yossar:
Edit to add 6B2W isn't too hard to get. Say, A 2B2W Mictlan Rain priest with a blood thorn, brazen vessel, Armor of Souls, and Ring of Sorcery.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Mictlan doesn't have access to a ring of sorcery unless you have put astral magic on your pretender, or have empowered a moon priest. Even so, the spells are hardly worth it. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Or get the S3 hero Quetzalcoatl or trade or find an indy mage to make you a crystal coin. By the time you get to Blood 9 there are a lot of possibilities. I wouldn't base a strategy around it, but the ring of sorcery is really nice anyway. 9 Blood isn't the most useful high-end magic though.

HotNifeThruButr June 19th, 2004 09:52 PM

Re: How would you patch this game?
 
But still, compared to Utterdark or Wish...


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