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I thought the Clancy question about his reliability was along the lines of, "he's does his homework, but he's a fiction writer." I wanted to clarify that Clancy does write nonfiction.

As far as bias, I didn't mean to imply that Clancy was either pro or anti Stryker. Thr truth is, I don't know Clancy's position on the Stryker. All I wanted to illustrate is that Clancy is not a Pentagon tool. He's not afraid to speak his mind. And all I used his book for was factual information about the C-130J.

So there....... Plasma you trouble maker. BTW did you read my China paper?

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Sorry, Kevin, the content of this thread was so that I couldn't resist a bit of light trolling! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I had already tried to reason it out, for no result (of course), so to hell with it...

What I meant about Clancy is that though he is in no way a shrouded official spokesman, the mind he speaks is evidently influenced by a number of people (like everyone's, come to this), and this pro-tracks, pro-Stingray, pro-Sheridan, anti-Pentagon-machine etc. rethoric of his, though it makes several points, is disturbingly close to that of many people you hear these days bashin' some Stryker (among else), and which look far less like distanciated experts than Clancy does...
Agreedly he could very well be the one man who started a line which soon got out of control and have nothing to do with what followed, but let's just say that I wouldn't be surprised to hear him call the M-113 "Gavin". On the other hand, his absolute refusal to do such a thing wouldn't surprise me either...

Now I don't question anybody's ability to deal with facts, although it has been the very point of most of this thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif, and all I wanted to point out (from the beginning) is that this issue is far too politicized for anyone to have an unbiased technical discussion without it turning into a flaming row. And obviously...

And, yes, I did start your report, although I didn't finish it yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif on account of being on a near-end term too at work! I'll finish it ASAP, be sure of it!
If you don't mind it being too much publicized, I guess you could post it on this China thread we had http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif, it would surely add to the debate!

Regards,

Plasma

Re: Interesting Site: Wheeled vs. Tracked AFV (US
 

I might be repeating something already said but from this report

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ity_of_war.pdf

The Stryker is a overweight, useless, expensive, dangerous piece of garbage created as an ego project. After reading this report and reviewing other material I'd agree with this statement.

Re: Interesting Site: Wheeled vs. Tracked AFV (US
 

If the troops using the Stryker are to be belived, it is a wonderfull viechle. But beeing soldiers, what do they know?
Halstein.

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Israeli new L-Vas M113... (addon armor has 2 tons...)
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...-113/L-Vas.htm

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So for all M113 chassis we can no add A2 or A3 ?

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Digging up old bones...

I'd be interested to know if either of the two major parties involved have EVER spent ANY time on tracks or on boats or on both?

Or if they are simply spouting off about things that they've READ about?

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Who are the major two parties you are referring to?

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At the risk of being shot by the feuding parties here I'll try to sum the Wheeled VS Tracked argument up.

Wheeled :
Lower fuel use
Higher top speeds
Lower maintenance requirements
Lower off road mobility
Lower basic vehicle cost (ignoring weapons, vision, etc)

Tracked :
Higher fuel use
Lower top speeds
Higher maintenance requirements
Higher off road mobility
Higher basic vehicle cost (ignoring weapons, vision, etc)

Which is "better" ?
Neither.

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Depends on task http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Not that it matters some narrcistic egomaniacs whose second name starts by S http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif