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JaM September 20th, 2005 04:27 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
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Marcello said:
At that point there was probably not enough of it to do more than damaging some systems in its direct path.



If this happen to T-72, Tank will blow out

Marcello September 20th, 2005 04:37 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
"If this happen to T-72, Tank will blow out"

Likely, depending on what it is actually hit.Then again remember that on an M60 a large portion of the rounds are lined against the side walls and it is my understanding that such arrangement of the ammunition is quite common among the tanks of that generation.
Since it is not a massive penetration event the crew may have some chances of bailing out before the tank becomes a rather unpleasant place to be.

Weeble September 20th, 2005 08:46 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
Quote:

Marcello said:

Since it is not a massive penetration event the crew may have some chances of bailing out before the tank becomes a rather unpleasant place to be.

Surely recent events in Basra have shown that even Molotov cocktails can cause a crew to bail out of an AFV, despite dire peril outside.

As Mobhack said several http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif pages ago, a tank is likely to get a second or third hit to ensure a kill. I know I do this in WinSPMBT if I have the shots, ammo etc. An immobilised tank could still shoot at YOU, a 'killed' one can't.

Thus all of this argument becomes redundant as the crew are going to abandon into a hostile battlefield anyway.

That M1A1 crew in Iraq were very lucky, see:

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/solved.asp

Weeble

kevineduguay1 September 20th, 2005 11:54 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
Weeble,

Even with the Pen that tank stll drove away. I am impressed with that RPG though!

Neet site!

Marcello September 21st, 2005 05:52 AM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
"Even with the Pen that tank stll drove away."

From the accounts of the accidents it seems that tank was evacuated and recovered later (and it was looted in the meantime).It did not drive away from the scene, although maybe it could have done it and it was decided not to do so for safety reasons.
Without special ballistic skirt the side hull, with the exception of the area around the driver which is protected by fuel cells, is not better protected than on the majority of the tanks.A plate of RHA in the 8cm range + side skirts is a pretty common arrangement.From the calculations I have seen and the opinions of some tankers I have read it might not be enough to stop a plain vanilla RPG-7 if it hits head on.Neverthless that sort of calculations require detailed informations on the specific warhead configuration and some additional knowledge I do not possess.

JaM September 23rd, 2005 02:57 AM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
Look at this discussion on Tanknet: http://63.99.108.76/forums/index.php?showtopic=12348

Alpha September 26th, 2005 02:26 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
it seems some ppl. here really donīt like iraqie tank crews and want them all to die

kevineduguay1 October 1st, 2005 12:36 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
Not all, just most! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

kevineduguay1 October 6th, 2005 11:48 AM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
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This is what happened to a test target, fully combat loaded T-72 vs a Javelin ATGM. See attachments.

A link to this site can be found on my post about the Javelin ATGM.

P.S. The engine was found 65 meters from the vehicle. Would this count as "splash" against infantry? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

bison24 October 6th, 2005 09:44 PM

Re: Soviet tank crew survival.
 
The T-72 fired on by the ajvelin was rigged with explosives for the advertisement. Nice propaganda though.


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