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licker September 30th, 2008 04:15 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
I suppose, but people should play test the map a couple of times and have the hang of it.

This is my 1st MP (well since 4 years ago with dom2) and I'm not that concerned about it.

Its not too hard to edit the map so that the node sites are inaccessible though.

Nikelaos September 30th, 2008 04:18 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
i guess but i think it would be easier just to give people a couple of days to SP it or do a diferent map altogether, thou

Hoplosternum September 30th, 2008 05:40 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
I don't have a problem with restarting. But if we do I would simply choose a more standard map if that is what the problem is. I don't fancy practicing for a couple of days ;) If people simply want to choose different races / pretenders thats OK, but it will mostly help the experienced over the inexperienced.

I don't really agree that the map massively helps anyone in particular. As everyone can get access to death with recruity gates it's not too bad. Disease etc. does not kill quickly and you don't neewd to hold the gate for long although many of the gates will have massive unrest that has to be reduced before you can recruit.

The unusual nature of the map means that even the more experienced players will not know how it will play. We should have plenty of room due to the map size vs number of players. Yet the gates will shake this up.

But if all you can build at the sites are Necromancers or Illusionsist etc. they are not going to decide the game. Simply aid diversification (a bit - it is often combinations of paths that are crucial for forging). And all but undead / demons can't use the gates that easily due to disease but you can guard your access to the nodes easily with PD and standing forces.

Personally I have played a few mp games but am still inexperienced. Plus I have not played a blood nation in sp or mp before (although this is the third game I have just started with one). So I doubt I will win whatever we do :) I was quite looking forward to an unusual and chaotic game, but I appreciate that isn't to everyones taste. And if people feel at a disadvantage already I would rather we restarted.

licker September 30th, 2008 05:49 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
If we're voting I say stick it out, but, we need to know which version of the map we are playing on so that we can make the appropriate decision to prioritize gates or not based on if they are just connectors, or if they actually have fixed useful sites.

GrudgeBringer September 30th, 2008 06:35 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
Me too...I just want to know for SURE which version we are playing and what it will do.......

After that we can make a decision what we want to do. I agree that restarting on the same map does no good as we are only on turn 2 and redesigning Pretenders ect isn't in any of our best intrests.

As far as SP goes, I have kinda messed around last night with SP but don't know which map we are using so that was kind of a wasted effort EXCEPT I did find I was able to recruit a Priest (IF I built a temple) in one of the nodes.

As far as it taking me to the side Icons...it didn't do it so I expect I was playing the wrong game...

Dragar September 30th, 2008 07:08 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
i tried out the map for a bit and couldn't work out anything special about the node sites..

licker September 30th, 2008 08:36 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
Well there are 4 versions of the map, the '1st' one has nothing special at the nodes, the other 3 are variants on magic sites, extra defense, and dangerous sites.

GrudgeBringer September 30th, 2008 09:00 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
Ok, its not this hard....

Whoever set it up tell us which version it is.....PLEASE

Nikelaos October 1st, 2008 02:11 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
well seems the people have spoken, the show shall go on, now feel the wrath of my 29 research rainbow mage.

Hoplosternum October 1st, 2008 02:41 PM

Re: Buggy- LA - Llama server - Send in your Pretenders
 
We are playing the Recruity Gates version per the Llama Server. Which has the mages at the gates and some bad stuff but not the really bad stuff at the gates / less guards at the gates. I think!


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