Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

"Well what would you do?"

Already told you. Combat mission style or initive based turn-based. Pure real time is fine if the AI is running both sides (as in Strategic mode)

Phoenix-D

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

An initiative based turn-based combat system still has the same problems of se4's combat system.

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

Well, as for the original intent of the topic, right now I'd pick Civilization II for Windows, Line in the Sand for DOS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif , and likely when I get the full SEIV, that will take the lead.

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

"An initiative based turn-based combat system still has the same problems of se4's combat system."

But reduced in scale to the point where it is almost irrelevent.

Phoenix-D

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

What sort of initiative system would you propose?

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

Fairly simple one.

At the begining, all ships make a check, based on whatever factors you like. Say its out of 100, all modifers equal (same ship design, whatever)

Lowest numbers move first. A tie for any particular ship, the defender goes first.

ex:
6 ships, 3 side A 3 side B. B defends.
A1 rolls 50
A2 rolls 25
A3 rolls 80

B1 rolls 80
B2 rolls 10
B3 rolls 30

So the order would go:
B2
A2
B3
A1
B1
A3

Another:
A1 rolls 85
A2 rolls 57
A3 rolls 87

B1 rolls 76
B2 rolls 47
B3 rolls 94

Order:
B2
A2
B1
A1
A3
B3

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

Yeah Line in the Sand was very fun. heh with the action in the middle east right now it might perhaps be fun to install again.

As most I have played Civ 2 and like it. However it's the 400+ highly quility scenarios I have for Civ 2 that makes it so much much better than it otherwised would have been.

Went through my vast collection of games and discovered SSIs Definitive Wargame Collection... can't believed I forgot it but the game --- Sword of Aragon --- must be considered one of the best ever. Being a Strategic RPG Tactical combat quest it got it all. Highly recommended for anyone!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I am sure I have forgot a bunch of other great games... bound to happen when you are a big time fan and collector of Strategy and RPG games.

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

P-D, that still has the unrealistic factor of some ships being able to fire at and destroy enemy ships before they can do anything. In most situations, both sides would be able to fire at about the same time. It also looks like it would get very messy when you have 100s of ships on each side. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

Time to revive another thread...

Have any of you played one of the games by Schwerpunkt ? I played one of their demos some time ago (OK, a long time ago) and kind of liked it, but I'm not sure if they're still in business. Their web site looks like it hasn't been updated in quite a while.

Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War
 

I'm with Imperator Fyron on this. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Medieval: Total War so far. Its strategic system may be weak, but it's real-time pausable tactical system is by far my favorite.