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Well, for my part i belive that as a loving parent I'll say no so long as I can, atleast until they are 18.
No malice intended, but if alcohol was introduced today it would have been Banned.
As it is now I use it on occasion, but it is a powerful and potentially dangerous drug.

Many people point at countries where there is a more liberal view on alcohol, France as an example and says "Se, you can drink without getting drunk". But France has a high rate of alcohol induced diseases.
So for my kids sake I'll try to keep them from alcohol as long as I can, and I'll make sure they know what I think about it.

I won't "punish" them if they get home drunk sometime, but there will be a discussion following when they sober up.
I'm sure they'll get drunk before it's legal to be so, but I hope to be able to minimize these occasions and perhaps give them enough self esteem to say no, and hopefully learn after the first time that it isn't so grand to be loaded.

But somethings one propably has to learn by doing ones own mistakes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ April 14, 2003, 07:28: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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interesting how the topic drifted
i dont even know my post count.. why do you all care so much for it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Edit: 816 Posts since July 19, 2001. Is that not alot or what?

[ April 14, 2003, 07:31: Message edited by: Taera ]

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to add on the current topic, i am the "child" who had been introduced to alcohol a while ago. Being curious as I am i was introduced to root beer and perharps beer (dont remember) at age of about 8. Didnt remember much of it, neither liked, but the curiosity went away.
I didnt even know the legal drinking age in israel (i believe its 18). I always drink wine (usually white) with my parents on special occasions (like birthdays or new year) and been doing so for quite a long time. I also have been, being 14 and 15 and 16 yrs old, drinking beer with my friends. I can sa that my curiosity satisfied, i dont find it too much interesting. Yes it warms you up a little and opens you up a little too but thats it. A can or two with friends is fine, thats it.
OTOH those same friends come from NO families. They LOVE drinking.

talk about the theory.

EDIT: typo

[ April 14, 2003, 07:35: Message edited by: Taera ]

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Tehre is always exceptions to the rules.
There are people who have been smoking extensively and drinking often that live to become odler than 100 years.
that doesn't make it a healthy lifestyle.

AS to your friends, yes, these things happens.
I've had friends whose been members of organizations against alcohol but still drank alot. But if you look on it in a bigger population scale, "No" wins.
Will look up the reference later, (Should be working now).

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EDIT:
Ok, it seems the significance is weak, 4% more of the children with parents "allowing" some drinking, drinks more than those who says "No".
(Røysamb E, Friestad C. Rusbruk og foreldrerelasjoner gjennom ungdomsårene. Bergen: HEMIL-Sentret, 1998)

Will look further into this.
More info later...

[ April 14, 2003, 11:46: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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..a quote from another thread... (by me of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) and for some reason it seems to fit here too! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Seems the opinions on children and alcohol are divided into a number of camps.

1) The "NO" parents where as Taera points out curiosity and rebellion may be a factor.
2) The gentle "No" parent for children underage such as Ruatha.
3) The gentle "No" parent for children under age but with an occasional relaxation under controlled conditions so they can have the experience under supervision and not look for it elsewhere. (My position)
4) The liberal parent. (No ones position, yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Taera, I know 1) is not your personal position. Just your observation how children may react to the "NO" parent. An observation which I happen to agree with.

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my parents are liberal, i think. AFAIK i can get as drunk as i want, we all (me and them) know what will that do to me. I just wont do it because I dont want to do it. I never been said a NO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRINK. I just dont http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Funny how things work out huh? My parents never really had alcohol around and even when they did my sister brothers and I never realy cared.

However, today my step sister and brother are big time drinkers. I found out that their grandfather is an alcoholic but there mother is not. Their real father is though.

Not that any one cares, but this I think proves that it is possible that alcoholism runs in families. My blood brother and I will drink, neither he nor I care for it. My real sister is gone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif No, not by a drunk driver thank god, just some kid learning how to drive. I guess that makes it better. I think it does.

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Back on topic for just a sec, Fyron has made 57 Posts to my 28. Fyron you are the Ruler of the World.

Don't let it go to your head or we will have to depose you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif