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geo's site is up and i got the turn in finally

new turn up !

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Houston, we have a problem...

this latest turn is completely messed up...

so many of my orders were completely ignored
i know for a fact some construction orders were ignored

i know for a fact that my warp openers and closers did not do what they were told

i know for a fact that ships i moved from one fleet to another are NO LONGER in the fleet they were told to goto, AND on top of that, some of them decided to cloak ON THEIR OWN

also, it does NOT appear as if the ai did anything - ie, i have no new ship designs or anything funky


before anyone gets into this turn, please lets look at this?

can the rest of you check your turns closely also?

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Look at Karibus reply in the game forum. I am agreeing with what he has said about the possibilities of what happened.

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This has happenend to me in a few games... Since the latest Patch.

You will also notice that your Research Repeat button is off.

I had it happen in my sweet game and i had 1800 base ships sitting around looking for something to do. It was a very very long turn.

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My turn was fine.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I forgot to mention, as was mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

So either it is what Karibu mentioned in the game forum or Tescos suggestion.

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tesco, what other symptoms did u notice?

and rag, can you email the zip turn 29 please?
i need to check that to make sure - i deleted it already

i just hate that, i lost a lot of construction queue stuff - but i've already disrupted the game too much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif i can live with it, i just really really hope it doesnt happen again

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is on its way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I hate seeing you go through so much trouble in this game. It is really unfortunant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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well, its either a really messed up turn, or i somehow lost a couple of days

i just reviewed the turn history
it seems that turn 29 and 28 were the same
maybe that was the replacement turn and i didnt use 29?

in anycase, i hope that is all it was

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Cirvol, you should consider downloading the next turn or two directly from the PBW page to make sure that you're on the right turn number. That's what I do whenever I get messed up.

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Its probably a problem on your end, because my turn ran just fine, some attack ships I'd ordered to move to my ship/fleet training centers moved just fine. So most likely its your problem, not PBW's.

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rag, can u turn off auto turn processing until monday at noon pls?

i have to travel all day today (sunday) and i wont be able to upload the turn until late tonight, or monday morning

i hope that is ok with the rest - i tried to avoid the travelling, but i have no choice

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I can wait a day.

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Note this: I have couple of times downloaded old turn from PBW site, but it was not any fault in PBW site function. It was merely that I had my Last visit on my browser's Cache. So, to make sure you download right turn, check the turn number in its name.

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Tricksy.

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just fyi - i finished the turn late Last night http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

thx for the extra few hours,
i'd work on the next turn now,
but alas im in the office

this is getting to be quite a management project
-so much going on in so much space

what is everyone else upto?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are welcome, but I did nothing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I too was gone all weekend, but PBW has auto turns off so it is not running on its own. Only on LPU basically.

I am up to hardly anything, just trying to fill up my 10 Sphereworlds to full capacity. It is quite an undertaking. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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do you seriously have 10 sphere's already?

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It is impossible for him to have 10 SW's already at this point in the game. I seriously doubt anyone has even begun the preparations to build 'em.

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I have. I have several Sphere components in buildqueue at this very moment. They will be my greatest statues ever. Imagine it: Huge Face of Karibu closing around a star http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif You are all welcome to come and see them... under my governance http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 30, 2004, 05:19: Message edited by: Karibu ]

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Have about 10 ringworlds under construction, but they are still a long way from finished.

I don’t waste my resources on building sphereworlds. There is no way this game will go on long enough to pay back the extra investment. According to my calculations that would take 150 + turns after the (possible) completion of the ringworld.

And the spheres are ugly too. Who wants a planet that looks like a moose’s *** clotting up the system? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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First of all, no I do not have 10 sphereworlds , yet. I am working towards that goal though.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

In fact, I suppose it will not hurt anything, I have already completed my first Sphereworld and it is filling up as we speak. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Question: Is it legal to have a system not connected to the rest of your empire, so long as it's possible to do so without scrapping a system shield?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is one method I never thought up when thinking of being a turtle. I would venture to say that no this is not legal. Why? Because you could do this and have that as your minimum single system that can be accessed by other players while the rest are blocked off.

But on the other hand, well, I did have a other hand. I forgot it for now, give me some time and I will post it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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i think it would be legal until it was your only system... then you would have to open it up..

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I mean setup so that all systems could be accessed by another player one way or another, but they would have to open at least two warp points to do it.

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If I understood it correctly, Spoo asked if he can have all systems 100% turteled except one stripped from all warp points, which would be passable to other players. My opinion is, that it is forbidden. Why?

Because you would have to guess twice where to warp. In my opinion either you leave one system open to warp points (ie. anybody can open warp point into it) or open one warp point from your system to rest of the galaxy (i.e. one point open to some other system, where others can use to access you), so that others can pass into you but they would have to go through a gate you control.

I thought this was discussed way back, but Spoo has a good point. People often find loopholes from rules and exploit them if they are not directly forbidden http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Good thing you brought this open, Spoo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

However, If spoo is willing to make a system where others have uncontrolled passage, I am not against it. I might visit it myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Maybe I should rephrase my question (although the apparent misunderstanding has raised some good points).

Is it legal no have zero warpoints and zero system shields in my empire? It seems to me that this should be fine.

The reason I'm pressing the question is that I'd like to open a warp point to an empty system, ignite a star, and build a ring world. In the meantime, I'd like to close the warp point to my main cluster of systems. So long as I don't build a system shield in the lone system, and so long as my main cluster is accessable by other players, this should be legal, right? No system would be unreachable.

As I understand it, a "turteled" system is one that another player's ship can't ultimately access using either an existing trail of warp points originating in a non-turteled system or a warp opener, and the "no turteling rule" is that no system may be "turteled".

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That would be perfectly fine. A dissconected system is not turteled in any way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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damn, me again with missing a turn by 5 minutes...

i wish i could do these things faster when under a deadline http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif --- its just too easy to loose track of time while trying to finish a few more 'touchups'

in anycase, on the off chance rags catches this before anyone plays their turn - i uploaded my 'old' turn to the pbw site, in case u feel upto reexecuting it with my turn included

otherwise, its cool, its my own fault again and i dont want you to feel i'm trying to cause this thing to screw up... it really is a good game, which is why i keep finding myself loosing hours planing stuff and loosing track of time and missing turns

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, as long as it is accessable by means of a warp opener.

But I feel you cannot do this to alot of your systems as that would be abusing this ability.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How so?

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My opinion is, that you can isolate all your systems if you want, but then you have to leave them without system shield. They are easy to access, though you have to open warp points on them. I would not do like this, but if someone wants to do it, IMO it is his/hers choise to do so.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How so? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I was thinking if you did that to every system you could in effect buy yourself alot of time and truely get as close to a full turtle as you coule without actually doing it.

But Karibu's comment below states how it would really be. It would be a pain to open a WP to every system but as long as you can get to every system then all is fine.

Therefore this is allowable as long as System Shields are not installed.

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I would not say it would be pain to open a warp point. But it would be pain to defend such system, for you never know where the warp point is actually opening within the system.

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Turn 34, and I'm consuming nearly 1 million minerals per turn!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Never before have I been in a game this monstrously huge!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I can't wait for the 1000 vs 1000 ship battles. I wonder what happens when the combat map runs out of space? Of course the map only needs to be 200x200 to fit 40000 ships.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Less than 1 mill ?

You have been lazy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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can i have a 12 hour extension on this current turn... i am having a real pleasure of a time on the up grade...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You saying that scares me.

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aye, must be upto 1.3 or so myself ;p

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Will do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


This game is great. Although my position doesn't reflect that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I am still having a bLast! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I have 1.5 resources because I made some mistakes at the beginning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Otherwise I would have well over 2 by now. However, I am starting to catch up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh god I am way behind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I won't even say how many I have... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

So tell me, what is the secret to starting off well? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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A Mineral Scanner on all 10 Homeworlds + System Mineral Scanners bags about 750 K Mins on HW's alone.
You must have done some colonizing by now ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Colonizing, what is that? I didn't know we were going to play that way... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But seriously, I am closing in on 80 colonies at this point. I guess waiting for space yards to complete has kept my production down early.

I believe I have System Mineral Scanners built already but I don't know about individual scanners on the home planets yet. Will check next turn.

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Only 80 colonies? I thought I was slacking when I picked up all 182 a few turns ago. I've finally reached the point where I can keep all queues unpaused (including my 100+ orbital space yards). The Spoo Empire Resource ConVersion Corporation must love me.

Alas, it seems I'm slacking in production with only 1.1M minerals. I suppose I shouldn't have built the atmospheric modification plants first. Oh well, next time.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that is why I said I am doing badly in this game and yet still having fun. I am in Last place. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I have all my planets unpaused as well but obviously that is not very many. Production is really starting to pick up now and I will catch up sometime. I hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif (We need more smilies!)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh god I am way behind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I won't even say how many I have... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

So tell me, what is the secret to starting off well? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Err... I didin't think that I would have started well because I made some mistakes early game. But mostly my strategy is to build space yard, athosphere modification plant and monoliths after that.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Odd, that is my strategy as well. Wonder why you empire does it so much better.

Perhaps it is your statues you are building. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif