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Right, I will get my empire set emailed up to Mephisto this week but query, what do we do about characteristics and advanced traits??

Secondly, can we have a roll call posted here in the Cantina with those who are in and the races you are playing - I want to know who is beating me up

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Canada is, as ever, cold.

I am back in the office and have a copy of Gold sitting at home. I will draw up a race and will be happy to send it wherever it is needed. I too lean towards PBW, it is smoother. I also support Mac’s set up, though I would like planet names displayed. After all, it adds to the role playing flavour.

Moose kissing was kept to the obligatory dozen a day. After all, I was busy, but could not let the family name down. I am pleased to be back in Kenya where the sun is shining and I can ask that cute girl at the moneychangers out for dinner.

Tigga, please forward me your boss’ email address, we need to discuss the internet access issue. Clearly employees are being allowed far too many privileges in your office and I need to set things straight.

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Unit and ship limit should be set as high as possible. While only my fleet will be big enough to push the ship limit, the unit limit can hurt those who like mines, sats and fighters.

Just my two cents

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Having problems downloading the patch, it messed everything all up, ugh

what if we just play gold Version without the patch for now, until the bugs in the patch are fixed??

mac

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Mac, fine but how do I 'disapply' the 1.67 patch?

Re: Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina
 

Reinstall from CD to go from 1.67 to 1.60

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Awwww, not when I have just changed all the tech files and star system files!!! do you know how long it took me renaming all the techs in the game?

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GT, 2 possibles, one we use 1.67, or you can re-load 1.60 just put it under different name, that way yu don't mess with your downloaded patch

or, you guys start, just put extra race in, and when I get patch straightened out, will join in, I'll take whatever you design....

just some ideas mac

[ 15 April 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]</p>

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Ok, I read the problems with patch thread, still have problems, therefore some questions for those more computer literate then me.

1. which is the best way to install patch?
2. I have various Mods and the launcher, do I have to reinstall them as well or won't they be affected by the patch?
3. should I just reinstall gold under different directory, re-name it, then patch, then download the mods again? or just try to download the patch into current gold Version which has mods installed?
4. Is the 20,000 limit in the patch, my gold Version only goes to 5000, just want to make sure I didn't screw something else up, sigh

I'm going to have to take some computer classes if these keeps up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

[ 15 April 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]</p>

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1) Just run the patch. Try setting your path.txt back to "NONE" before you do, just in case. If it complains that your game isn't the correct Version, then save a backup copy of your mods and savegames, then reinstall.

2) Mods should not be seriously affected by the patch.
AI's will see a difference, and the No Firing When Out Of Supplies bit will make for some gameplay changes.

Assuming you have your mods safely stored in modfolders (ie you didn't overwrite the original data) then they will be fine.

3) See #1.
And make a backup of your mods, don't download again.

4) Yes.

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How can you say canada is cold. Its 22 today and 29 tomorrow. It's April. And Playoff's are just starting.

On The topic of Roll Call

Tesco is playing ====surprise. You will find out when you meet me.

Is the Game created now on pwb with the 1.67 patch so I can up load my race??

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How can you say canada is cold. Its 22 today and 29 tomorrow. It's April. And Playoff's are just starting.

On The topic of Roll Call

Tesco is playing ====surprise. You will find out when you meet me.

Is the Game created now on pwb with the 1.67 patch so I can up load my race??

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Saxon, good to see you are back from your holidays

Moose kissing was kept to the obligatory dozen a day

the trouble is, I believe you

I can ask that cute girl at the moneychangers out for dinner

hasn't the poor thing got enough problems without you adding to them!

Tigga, please forward me your boss’ email address, we need to discuss the internet access issue. Clearly employees are being allowed far too many privileges in your office and I need to set things straight

The IT guy is called Damian and I have given him your email address - you should like him, he thinks employees have too many rights, his view is that they should be restrcited to breathing and occassional toilet breaks (under supervision of course)

Sheesh, I am glad I do not work for you!

PS Saxon, check your PM

[ 15 April 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p>

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Tesco,

It might be 29 where you are but it was –4 where I was. Vancouver was warmer, but single digit temperatures are rough on my delicate constitution. As for the playoffs, the Canucks are doing their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and probably won’t make it.

As for playing, yes I am in. Given my dictatorial, colonialist tendencies, I would suggest it will be self-apparent when you meet my race, even if I try playing a Fluffy Bunny Species.

Tigga,

I have checked my PM, but nothing has arrived. Perhaps your eminently sensible IT man has wisely limited your computer privileges. Has he installed the web cam to your computer yet? The one you think is for video conferencing, but actually has a more practical use in monitoring your activity? You know, like the one you paid to have installed in Mac’s laundry room?

As for the cute girl at the money changers, you are right, she does have too many problems already. However, you have heard the old saying about giving work to a busy person if you want to have it done? Well, my theory is to give more problems to the troubled person in the hopes she will be too distracted to use her good judgment and tell me to piss off. Perhaps Gryph can give me some tips in this area.

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Tigga,

You are bragging about victories with drones in a combined arms battle against a human. Does this warrant further comment or gloating in the Cantina? Naturally, we all wonder if this is the long awaited duel between you and Gryph.

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dictatorial, colonialist tendencies
Fluffy Bunny Species.

Saxon, this paints an interesting vignette on your psychological profile - I suggest you seek counselling (dont us Europeans just love the way you north americans go running off to your psychiatrists every 10 seconds, it makes us fell so level headed and superior)

I have checked my PM, but nothing has arrived

Hmmmm, this is strange, I have 2 Messages in my outbox showing as unread by you

You know, like the one you paid to have installed in Mac’s laundry room

This is slander, the notoriety of Mac's keks has travelled before him and there are Innuits high in the artic circle who have heard of the thermal properties of Mac's trollies

has anyone ever wondered whether Mrs Mac is able to turn on a computer and send her own PM's???

Well, my theory is to give more problems to the troubled person in the hopes she will be too distracted to use her good judgment and tell me to piss off

This is cruel, think of the emotional turmoil your unwanted advances are going to have on this poor girl - all you want to do is satisy your disgusting urges and you are happy to accept the psychological damage you are going to do to this poor flower to do that - you are a heartless, imperialistic, soft skinned Canadian wretch - moose kissing is too good for you, you should stick to skunks

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Saxon:
You are bragging about victories with drones in a combined arms battle against a human. Does this warrant further comment or gloating in the Cantina? Naturally, we all wonder if this is the long awaited duel between you and Gryph.<hr></blockquote>

Yep, whipped Khanuk's posterior proper with that tactic - I can definately confirm that Gryphin was not the recipient of this thrashing and I am sure he would not have make the daft mistakes Khanuk did

Still, it was quite a good tactic, I am far too sierra-club orientated to use drones against planets and I have never liked kamikazes

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lst in regards to the game, Mephisto said he would be tied up for lst part of the week and to hold off until towards the end of wk before we send him our races. Wait until he lets us know hes ready for setup...

SJ, tks again for the help, I owe you big time, however, I haven't tried your advise yet, so don't be surprised if I mess something up again as usual http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

In regards to my Keks, I have instituted a complete search of my laundry room to ascertain if by chance those phone repair persons were hired by some unknown individual to emplace certain monitors to reveal the locations of those items in question. Further, I have received a scientific report from those in the Artic/Anartic areas of this planet, in which is specifically states that Global Warming is now at unprecedented numbers. It is felt that some abnormal properties are helping not only to cause but to speed up the process. Since I have recently found some of my particular articles missing, it is the possiblity that some unscrupuless person/s have displaced them into the northern reaches of our world, however, it is unknown if they would have any effect on this particular trend. The articles in question were those that were being utilized while researching into the concepts and taste of Tesco's and Puke's sauces in regards to chili and other related cook out quisine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

In regards to Mrs M and the computer, she has just received her lst one at work and she is in the process of learning its use, This could be bad or good in relationship to the use of our home system and my playing time. In addition, her answer to the Keks is just to "Bury Them", burning would be considered pollution

just some ideas mac

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Tigga,

“Poor innocent flower”? I had already explained that she is a moneychanger and we all know that it is fair game to mistreat and throw out of the temple any moneychangers that we come upon. Historically, they are almost as reviled as lawyers. In fact, I am sure I saw your name on a “Money Changers and Lawyers Co-Commiseration and Group Therapy Seminar”. I will look for it; it is probably in all that scientific literature that Mac has been sending me.

As for therapy, I am just following directions. Following my Last session, the nice lady at reception told me that the therapist was done and never wanted to see me again. She suggested that I go back to my fantasy world and never leave the house again. As such, I can not follow your suggestion of going for counseling, I am supposed to be locked up and playing SEIV.

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Saxon

You are suggesting that this "poor innocent flower" submit to agreeing a tryst with yourself during which you will no doubt try and juxtapose your manipulatory appendages next to or near her erogenetic zones and will also no doubt attempt to break down her (hopefully staunch) morales with your moose-kissing wiles

If all that are not grounds for sympathising with the girl, then I do not know what are.

I think you will find that the biblical reference is to moneylenders, not money changers. You will be surprise how few bureau de change were around in Palestine in 50BC!

I am a lawyer who specialises in banking and finance so that makes me double damned I guess

Also, the fact that you have gone to a therapist says it all

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Mac, buring your keks is not environmentally friendly - it releases too much carbon and other noxious substances into the atmosphere.

I consider that Wubbya should consider amending the current US space programme to allow for your used undergarments to be launched by linear accelerator into the Sun. It is the only way of disposing them.

Please dont suggest burying your trollies again, I have this awful vision (like the end of that Spielberg AI movie) of an alien race digging up this lead lined concrete enclosed package thinking it will be some time capsule of wonderful information, and all they get are your tesco-sauce-spoiled keks

Grim http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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GT, "all they get are your Tesco-sauce spoiled Keks"

LOL, But can you imagine the looks on their faces after opening it up, let alone their offericious inhaling of the fumes cooped up for hundreds of years,, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

just some ideas mac

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Mac, I dont want to imagine, I really dont

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Saxon, one must remember that who was the one who was sipping some brew, enjoying the sights of those juggling acts that bounced within his vision at those small quaint outside cafe`s and all the while he was supposedly working. Therefore, money changer or lender, go for it,

You could even break the ice by trying to explain to her the scientific wonders of the "CTW or the "TGP". I'm sure that upon the wonderous insights into these topics that the young filly in question, would see that you are most interested in the finer aspects of science and that you are a person of the world with a fine intellect. This should enhance your ability to enjoy her company on a more frequent basis http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

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enjoying the sights of those juggling acts that bounced within his vision at those small quaint outside cafe`s and all the while he was supposedly working.

Hey, I was in Madrid - what do you expect?

This should enhance your ability to enjoy her company on a more frequent basis

Or get a damn good thump in the chops!!

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As a Last minute bit of tasteless humour, let me agree that there were not a lot of money changers in Palestine in 50BC and add that I doubt there are many there right now. Things are just too lively.

Also, let me add that you learn some remarkable skills while kissing moose, things that I would reveal but for the fear that it would lower the tone around here.

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No, you are right Saxon. I was watching our breakfast news this morning and naturally, the BBC had one of their star reporters pretty much in the thick of things on the West Bank.

I had the great pleasure of spending not far off a year in the Middle East in 1992/1993 and spent a fair amount of time in Israel and Jordan. I have been to a lot of the West Bank towns including Ramallah and Bethlehem.

The BBC reporter was driving through Ramallah which I always remembered as a lively typical Arab/Palestinian town, thronged to the nines and busy with people enjoying and living their lives. I watched the TV this morning and could not believe. Ramallah was deserted and war torn and I just could not comprehend the difference between reality today and my memories

Please note that I am not casting any opinion or taking any sides on or in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

I think it is just so sad that this sort of thing happens in this modern so-called civilised age

[ 17 April 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Ramallah was deserted and war torn and I just could not comprehend the difference between reality today and my memories[ 17 April 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]<hr></blockquote>

Quoting an old song:
"But when I returned how my eyes have burned
to see how a town could be brought to its knees
by the armoured cars and the bombed out bars
and the gas that hangs on to every breeze
Now the army's installed by the old gas yard wall
and the damded barbed wire gets higher and higher
with their tanks and their guns oh my God what have they done to the town I loved so well"

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To open up a game I need to know:
1.) How many players we are.
2.) How many racial points.
3.) What size of the galaxy.
4.) What techs level we start at.
5.) Tech cost.
6.) Number of starting planets.
7.) Conditions of starting planets
8.) Players can see other players score yes/no.

As I have played some PBEM games I would recommend:
2.) 2000-3000.
3.) Medium size.
4.) Low. Medium if wished for.
5.) High.
6.) 3 to 5.
7.) Good.
8.) No.

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Mephisto (das glucklicher esel)

This has been discussed at length. Number of players is Mac, me, Gryph, Tesco Samoa, Saxon (Violence) and you

Game synopsis is as follows

Version - Gold 1.67
5000 racial points
No AI's
3 starting Planets
Medium Tech start
all worm holes attached
Large Map (Cluster or Spiral - you choose)
no catastrophes
pick you atmosphere
pick your type of planet (ice, rock, etc)
all rules in effect
no restrictions
role play your race
20000 ships
20000 units
only see allied info
turn on the listings for Yards, resupply and planets

[ 17 April 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p>

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I thought Tesco had 2 friends who wanted to play?, Anyone else out there that want to play, if so let us know

just some ideas mac

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Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong's Head Desaster Area is up and running on PBW. So, go and register, sent me your player names and files!

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Ok, I am in place on the PBW. Since it is my first time doing this and I suspect new to others as well, let me reassure you that it is very simple. As Tigga will tell you, if I can figure it out, so can your average garden vegetable.

I would suggest going to the PBW site http://seiv.pbw.cc/ Go to the FAQs and print them out, they are very helpful. From there, try to join the game and once Mephisto says ok, upload your empire file.

Getting your empire file is easy. Just fire up SEIV and create your race. Just remember to set the racial points at 5000 at the start, or you will have to redo everything. Then save the race under your name of choice. You will need to know the directory it is in when you want to upload it.

Mephisto has very kindly set the game up so that a turn only runs when everyone has sent their turn in. This is great and will make our world a happy place. However, if anyone is planning to go on holiday, please let us know so we can get our teddy bears and go mope.

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As the resident garden vegetable, I messed one thing up. Have your .emp file (empire file) ready before you start. Mephisto does need to authorize your entry to the game, which might be quick or might wait until it is daylight in Europe. Once he does that, you can upload your file. In my case, I think we share a time zone and he authorized me very quickly.

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Saxon, this is a cople of good Posts from you - nice change!!

Sincew when have you been a garden vegetable, and if so, please can the usual residents of the cantina cast their votes for what sort of vegetable Saxon would be, I personally will go for Celeriac

Esel, if I am right from Saxon's post, do you need to be available when we go Online, I wont be able to design the empire until later on tonight which means you would have to be around late on your time

Also, how do find out where the "save empire" option has stuck your file??

[ 18 April 2002: Message edited by: Growltigga ]</p>

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I will also try and get my race down tonight, but it will be late as I have to work my part time job until 10pm. Hopefully next day or two I will send you my race file

Agree with GT how do I know where my save race file is

just some ideas mac

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Gryphin, I will respond here rather than the 'Planetary Names' thread.

Yes, I do know who John Norman is. As I recall, he wrote about 4-5 good books about Tarl Cabot and Gor, and then about another 20 books where he seemed to be going off on frolics about slavegirls and what you could do with them. He lost it when he went that way if you ask me as some of those stories were really good (Tribesmen of Gor was always a personal favourite)

Right, I now see that you name your planets after battles. That's cool. Why is Little Big Horn in my honour? I note you did not seem to include any battles where the americans got beaten!

As to responding to the off-topic remark, everything in its place, everything in its place

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Where is your .emp file?

Well, open up Microsoft Windows Explorer. It is the place where you see where the files are in your computer. You will look for the folder called Program files, as that is where SEIV is probably saved, unless you installed things in an odd fashion. Double click on that folder and look for Malfodor Malefactions, then SEIV, then either Empires or Races (sorry I forget the exact name). In that folder, you should see a lot of familiar looking names like Krill, Cue Cappa, ect. Look for the one that is the name you used when saving your empire, i.e. Diseased Tigers or Dirty Boxer Shorts. That should be your .emp file.

Tigga, don't worry about Mephisto being on line when you are. If you join and he is not on line, you will just have to log on again tomorrow night and hope he has authorized you in the mean time.

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Great, cheers Saxon

Actually, if you were a girl we could call you Broccolli Spears

Diseased Tigers? that is not very nice

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GrowlTigga
Interesting, we are more alike than I thought. I have the first 4 books. I stopped reading when he “off on his frolics”. My favorite was “Nomads of Gor” as you may have picked up from the “Kamchak” referance.
My favorte quote is: “I am a Tuchuck, I have a plan”.

Little Big Horn is in your honor because of all the razing you gave me over Custer.
&lt;EDIT:&gt; “where Americans go beaten”, Depends on how you look at the battles of the Civil War or the battles with the Native Americans who used to force us to Circle the Wagons. You could say Americans both won and lost those battles but I wax philosophically.
&lt;/EDIT&gt;

It is rewarding to see you pick up on my method of moving Off Topic remarks here, (the way I started doing). You are trainable after all.

[ 18 April 2002: Message edited by: Gryphin ]</p>

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Saxon said it all. :-)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Saxon:
As the resident garden vegetable, I messed one thing up. Have your .emp file (empire file) ready before you start. Mephisto does need to authorize your entry to the game, which might be quick or might wait until it is daylight in Europe. Once he does that, you can upload your file. In my case, I think we share a time zone and he authorized me very quickly.<hr></blockquote>

Apr 18, 2002 11:22:29 AM CEST
Player Saxon approved to join game (mephisto)
Apr 18, 2002 11:21:07 AM CEST
Applied to join game (saxon)

Keeping in mind that the PBW server had to sent me an Email, I had to read it and then go to the web site to authorize Saxon, I would say, a reaction time of 82 seconds is good enough, isn't it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Esel, this is an example of the famous German efficiency in action..

.. or are you and Saxon (i) the same person, (ii) identical twins or (iii) lovers?

the public have a right to know!!

Sie sind küßt Saxon?

Re: Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina
 

Will try and do mine tonight (if I can work out how!!!!)

Dohh

Re: Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina
 

I have downloaded 1.67 and have begun working on my race for the game, should have it done sometime this weekend hopefully...well back to the drawing board,,,,

be careful, be very very careful
look to the sky
its THEM

just some ideas mac

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Bugger, can someone tell me how I download say the excellent Andorian ship set of Atrocities, and then use this as the ship set for the Fabulous Furry Growltigga Continuum before uploading this to the galactic bash gamesite

Re: Ye Olde Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina
 

I have uploaded my race.

Tigga.

Download the file from pbw by clicking on it. Unzip the file to a directory called andorian and then copy this directory over to the ...Space Empires IV Gold\Pictures\Races\directory.

Load the game go in and edit your race and select that race as your picture. then save your empire file again.

Your set.

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ok, I logged into PBW, hope to have my race
finished between now and sunday, never played pbw before so i'm ckng out the site so i'm not to stupid, 1 question since it states tdm-modpack, do i create my race in that directory or se4gold, or does it matter which one?

mac

[ 20 April 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]</p>

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I have seen nothing but feline coolness and kindness from you Growltigga.

So how is it that you have a member rating of 4 out of 5 stars?

I think your are being robbed.

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Hey meph..

the bratt is my friend I see he is number 6. are you accepting him or waiting for another forum person to join...

Looks like my other friend will not make it since the game is full.......

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> Looks like my other friend will not make it since the game is full <hr></blockquote>IIRC, as long as the game hasn't actually started, the owner can increase the number of players as needed.