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I think we should find someone to put C'tis to AI.

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aye

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Well Caelum has gone ai, and it looks like Mictlan has essentially done it, I vote for Mictlan as game winner seeing how there is no one else that could manage to achieve the goal before them.

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:?:

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:) Oh we can definately wait around till Mictlan gnabs the remaining capitals and holds them for 3 turns. Shouldn't be more than 6 turns total from now...

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OK. I wish to run up to the finish. GO-GO! :D

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:up::)

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It's about time we end this game.
I'm in control of all the capitals I need to win, this is the second turn I hold them. I have multiple domes, SC's and extremly large armies in every one of them and there's no way in hell I can lose any of them.
So we can either end it right here or wait for everyone to send in those two last turns, up to you guys.

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As far as I can see, you are not the only winner. We had simultaneous increase in "Forts" graph on turn 79. It was when I captured capitals of Abysia and Caelum. So, unless you may prove you captured your capitals earlier than turn 79 or someone can take the capitals I own, we both are the winners. :rolleyes:

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Damn you actually have 6 capitals? Does the fact I have 7 capitals change anything?

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I doubt it because the victory condition was to capture exactly 6. Sorry for intrusion but I've been watching this game a bit since karnoza started subbing for underdog Vanheim. Actually he was going to win from the very first turn (I think it was turn 58 or something like that). Position was terrific but he nearly managed to:).

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Hohoho, here be the choices.

1. Mutually agree to share godhood.

2. Deathmatch.

For Karnoza to win he is to take 2 of Executors captured capitals (since Executor claims to have seven then taking 2 would bring him down to 5).

For Executor to win he is to take 1 of Karnoza's capitals, bringing him down to 5.

Under the assumption that the original time constraint is met before Karnoza/Executor meet the above req's there will be no 'waiting' period once the req's are accomplished. Ie. If Executor takes one of Karnoza's caps on turn X then he wins on turn X. Likewise for Karnoza, ie. the turn Karnoza takes the second capital away from Executor is the turn that he wins.

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The game will last very long in the second case, believe me. It is more probable that they will capture other capitals than take any from each other. Also, it is a bit unfair, IMO, to add any conditions when they were not preset.

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Karnoza sent me a message telling that he is seriously sick and that he's been put to the hospital till the weekend. Obviously, he won't be able to play these days if you decide to continue. AFAIK, he never delayed this game so (if you decide to continue), taking on account the late stage of the game, it would be nice if the game was stopped until Monday. If you decide to stop, I may send anyone the save of turn 79 which is required to verify his 6 capitals.

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Well at the very least it's a joint victory, but however I still have a chance to win(solo), so I'll wait for him.

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Well then, if you wish to continue, he'll post here once he returns from the hospital. I hope there's nothing serious there.

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Yes there is still a chance for Executor to win, as the 3 turns hasn't been fulfilled...strike fast

I will definately postpone the game till monday, I too hope nothing serious has occured...

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Hello, everyone. I have returned. Thanks a lot for waiting.
I'd like to remind you that I've been subbing for previous Vanheim controllers from turn 58. It was not me who suggested the victory condition and I wouldn't want to dicuss if it was correct or fair but it was given and I eagerly tried to fulfil it. Now I may say that I succeeded. Noone will be able to take any of my capitals in 2 turns without breaking a NAP and even if someone decides to break it I hardly imagine how he may take my castles. I have plenty of SC's, powerful spellcasters and some other stuff to defend them - you may check it, of course. But I have absoultely no interest in continuing this game to find out who is an "absolute" winner.
On turn 58 Vanheim was, without exaggeration, an underdog. I did a good spurt but it doesn't make sense indeed to do something again and again when rules are being constantly changed. And also, it is a bit strange to expect that the runners who reached finish at the same moment will start boxing to find out who is the winner. ;)
Enough said. You may declare a draw or a win for Executor - probably he deserved it. For me this game will be over in 2 turns.

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I personally would love the runners who reach the finish to start boxing to find out who the winner is! Unfortunately I didn't create the game, and am just admining it. If both you and executor fulfill the victory conditions at the same time then the game will end in a draw.

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Well, shall we see who the winner is? Looks like all we're waiting is Slobbys turn to get in to get this game finished.

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turn is in, game on

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OK, so there's a possibility to turn this into a solo victory.
This is the last turn people, Arco fort is breached and destiny awaits.

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You've Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!!!
The Damn Game Crashed!!!

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Stale Turn :( Well, let's wait for Slobby and make a rehost (hopefully).

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Just my luck...

I have a feeling this has got something to do with that new patch.

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Executor: Btw, reagrding your post, if I knew that our NAP could be broken, before, you would have nearly no chance to break the walls. ;)

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Well... I think under these circumstances the NAP is OK to be broken, or disregarded. I've been in some similar situations and people agree.
And I picked the fort with the least defence in it.

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No problem with this broken NAP. I justed wanted you to understand that if I didn't publicly say about controlling 6 capitals you wouldn't even think of attacking now and the game would be over this turn. :) But again, no problem.

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Yeah, you right about that. But for some reason I was deluded that you had to inform when you capture the 6 capitals, which Slobby corrected me.

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Which capitals do you have anyway?
I know about Arco, Cealum, Abysia and your own.

But I never found out where C'tis, T'N'N, Fomoria and Lanka started.

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Lanka is 232, Fomoria is 188. Both controlled by Vanheim

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Man, Fomoria had a terrible starting position.
Hmm strange, I thought Cealum took Lankas capital, never realized those two provinces down there were connected.

I really hated this map by the way, I started two games on it at the same time and handed over one of them even doe I had a great position just because of the damn map, and I was gonna hand over this game also, but than Agartha (and some other nations) attacked me so I decided to stick around for a while, never expected to run up to the finish considering my position in this game at that time.

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Yep, Fomorian position was very bad. Not terrific because they have sailing though.
That's why I'll probably never again play without predefined starting locations. This game brings a lot of randomness in many aspects and I don't like to add any more... I don't like games where starting position decides world's fates:).
However, this map is quite good and I really like it. It needs a few balancing modifications, of course, but it is good.

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sooo just to be clear do you guys want me to roll it back?

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Let's rollback and rehost it first and if it doesn't work, we'll rollback again and redo our turns.

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+1 :)

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no error this time

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Any results:)?

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YES! Executor wins... but so does Karnoza.

Still about to watch the battle.

Really means a lot when you have the first turn.

Interesting, according to score graphs, this would be the first turn when I actually lost troops since the beginning of the game

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I guess it was an epic battle...

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Well at least this game is finally over, we started in July 2008.

So how do we call this game? Shared victory, draw game?

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Thanks for the interesting game and special thanks to Executor for a wonderful final battle.
Frankly speaking, I couldn't expect your victory being so near. You are a good player. I'll remember you and will always play against you in the way you deserve it. ;)

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Same here, well do the honor of posting this up in the HoF if you like.

Shame doe, was looking forward to another victory with Mictlan, 1.5 for now.

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Well there is still the 'check', unless of course you guys trust each other and feel no check is necessary. GJ to both of you. And I too am glad this game has finally come to an end!

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The last 3 turns, I think...
Feel free to look around.

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5 last turns

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sorry havent had a chance to look at the files, does it all look good?

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Yeah, all is good. Vanheim was pretty strong actually.
Only thing left is for you to declare the game over.

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Hi Everyone

Just want to say sorry to all the players here for suddenly dropping out last October. This game had already suffered enough from problems and drop-outs before I went AWOL (plus the added problems of me being the admin at the time). All totally out of my control though. I had to go to Greece for a week due to work, but it all went pear shaped on the first day when the car I was in got hit by a truck. This began a nightmare three months in a Greek hospital, and then a dis-orientating time upon returning home trying to get things back to normal. Everything has worked out ok in the end, but it certainly did a bang-up job of buggering my life up for six months.

So like I said, sorry for disappearing like I did, and causing the inevitable problems to the stuttering flow this game had. But I'd like to thank whoever took over as admin from me ('Slobby' was it? haven't had chance to go through the thread yet to confirm it), and of course a "Thank You" to not only all the original players in this game, but also an extra thanks to all those who subbed into it during its course (wonder if this game set a record for subs?). Subs can be invaluable at keeping games interesting and balanced, and should always be well thanked for their services :up:

Finally, can I offer my congratulations to 'Executor' and 'karnoza' on their joint victory. Very well done to the both of you. 'Executor' for being one of the original players who managed to make it through to the end, and win despite several stales that I know of. And 'karnoza' for subbing into not the greatest position ever, but managing to turn it around to such an extent that they shared the spoils in end. Hats off to both of those achievements :)

Look forward to playing in future games with you all, and happy gaming until the next time.