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46852 November 28th, 2008 07:35 AM

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Could I get a 48 hour extension over the weekend? Forgot my laptop at work, and my main comp is getting some serious updating... Writing this message from my mobile phone now, and I think it can't quite manage Dom3 :)

JimMorrison November 28th, 2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 654765)
Where are you Jim and Hoo? Is world domination not worth it anymore?

I forgot, I was going to reply to this, after the turn. :p

Turn before last, I had Abysia's capital and another castle under siege. He was threatening both with large forces that were certain to attack my sieging forces. I had decided to rescript for a defensive fight, rather than Storming - and he staled, so nothing got done. So I decided I would submit as late as possible last turn, to see if he was getting a turn in or not..... and then the game was delayed a day..... then another day delay..... it was nerve wracking. :p

AreaOfEffect November 28th, 2008 06:19 PM

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Informing me of these things allows me to take that into consideration before I delay a turn.

Also, I will extend the turn. Thanks for asking.

JimMorrison November 28th, 2008 07:45 PM

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Well they were reasonable delays, first to find a sub, then to let him review his turn properly. Plus it just seems a bit off to ask you to be expedient with your hosting, so that my opponent will stale. >.> I just had to make sure I sent the appropriate actions, based on whether or not he submitted a turn, had nothing to do with anyone else, really. ;)

AreaOfEffect November 29th, 2008 05:38 PM

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Jim, Understood.

46852, My apologies. I tried to extend this turn. I must have incorrectly submitted the password and didn't notice it hadn't worked. This is exactly why I say I need someone else to admin this game. I just don't have the time to confirm my actions.

I'm willing to roll back the turn if everyone thinks that would be appropriate. Doing so probably hurts me and the alliance against Ashdod the most as I scored massive victories against Ashdod this turn. His Northern forces (Including his thugs/SCs) have been entirely wiped off the map and unless he deploys something new, he will fold like a house of cards. What do people think?

JimMorrison November 30th, 2008 03:05 AM

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>.>

I don't feel I am qualified to have an opinion on this matter.

AreaOfEffect December 1st, 2008 01:42 AM

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I've found someone to set Abysia to AI. Caelum can finally enjoy some resistance once again.

46852 December 2nd, 2008 01:28 AM

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Already pm'd AoE, no need for rollback, it wasn't that catasthropic stale for me.

AreaOfEffect December 9th, 2008 10:46 PM

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Alright, there seems to be only four players still interested in turning in their orders. Traks, 46852, JimMorrison, and I. It seems that the players for Ashdod and Ulm aren't interested in playing anymore. One nation has had a sub already.

I'm half tempted to place both nations on AI. I'm not up to the task of asking for another sub. I also feel that we all want this game to end one way or the other. I'm very invested in the game, but could easily dismiss it if the other players wanted to move onto fresh new games. For me, it is honestly no fun to attack people who don't fight back.

Here are the options:
1) I find new subs for Ulm and Ashdod. Then we stagger along until I win.
2) I set to AI Ulm and Ashdod. I declare war on every remaining nation and eventually win the game.
3) We declare peace and we all move onto a new game. We could of course agree that I won, but I'll accept a tie as a common courtesy.

JimMorrison December 10th, 2008 03:03 AM

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Man..... I gotta say, I thought originally that I was flat out -screwed- in this game. Started right in the center, got hemmed in on all sides, had a sub-par income, and few attractive options. After a long research hiatus (go go Magic3!) I was ready to roll, and wow..... I've never had so much fun playing Caelum, and the nation is doing great now. ;)

That said..... well, I will be bummed if the game ends, but setting Ashdod to AI will certainly bend me over, with such a long border between our nations.

So, I vote for 1, but if it's too hard to find a sub, I would sadly vote for 3.

AreaOfEffect December 11th, 2008 10:52 AM

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Hmmm... I was kind of hoping for more imput then just what Jim thinks. Thanks Jim by the way.

I wasn't around to delay the turn and it seems that Ulm set them selves to AI. When I get done with work today I'll see if I can find a sub for Ashdod.

Also, I declare war on Caelum. Alright Jim, its rematch time. That should make things interesting once again.

Deadnature December 11th, 2008 03:00 PM

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yeah, I was holding you guys back by staling so much; sorry about that. Anyway Ulm is just a fly on the wall at this point so feel free to swat it.

JimMorrison December 11th, 2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 659161)
Hmmm... I was kind of hoping for more imput then just what Jim thinks. Thanks Jim by the way.

I wasn't around to delay the turn and it seems that Ulm set them selves to AI. When I get done with work today I'll see if I can find a sub for Ashdod.

Also, I declare war on Caelum. Alright Jim, its rematch time. That should make things interesting once again.

But I grew up with the impression that my opinion is the only one that matters. That's how we roll here in America. :p

But that is all irrelevant in the face of a war declaration. Caelum is appalled, and aghast, and maybe even akimbo towards this unexpected turn of events. We will call 51 the first turn of notice on our NAP then (we did have a NAP....?), and thus 53 is final turn of notice, and turn 54 borders may begin to shift.

Apparently the 900 lb gorilla that was Ashdod, has been replaced by a couple of poo-flinging 150 lb chimpanzees.

Let us see what lives in this tangled web. And let us pray that we can find a sub for Ashdod, so this game can have a proper climax from our menage-a-seis, if you will. :p

Bwaha December 13th, 2008 01:30 AM

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I might consider joining as Ashod, But I will be gone next summer mining gold. Late spring to be truthful. :D

AreaOfEffect December 13th, 2008 01:37 AM

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This game should be well past over by then. I would also welcome the idea of playing against a player with more experience then the last guy.

Bwaha December 13th, 2008 02:43 AM

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Well, I wish to consult with the fine nation of Calem. And others if they wish. I have played Ashod before and will consider any diplomatic overtures. :D

PS. I Have gotten the files and all seems okay. Boy are you gonna be suprised at the next turn. Heh. :D

Bwaha December 13th, 2008 05:09 PM

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I'm ready to send my turn in. Before I do so, I wish to purchase death gems. I will pay 10 gold for each death gem. Also I want some items, I will pay 10 gold per gem cost of the items. I could use just about anything that comes from construction 6 and above. :D

AreaOfEffect December 13th, 2008 07:24 PM

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No, you can't have my books!

JimMorrison December 13th, 2008 07:53 PM

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Oh don't worry. The Library will send someone around soon to have a chat with you, concerning your overdue fees.

Bwaha December 14th, 2008 01:26 PM

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Aoe, I was surprised to see your blessing. Interesting, I had expected the 9f/9w blessing. The stellar cascades was effective as well. I can see I'm gonna have some problems getting you to pay your overdue fees. :D But don't worry, I've some tricks for you. Our reorganized collection agency is getting ready for the next round. :D

46852 December 15th, 2008 08:56 AM

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I seemed to stale last turn :(

For some reason I though I had submitted my turn already.

I'm afraid I will be quite unable to properly play any turns in the following days, as I seem to have catched a quite nasty disease from our kids. Been in high fever for couple of days now, getting itchy spots on my hands, feet and face and my throat is sore as hell, can't barely eat anything. Feels like someone cast a Death spell on me... was it you, AoE? :)

But I'm sorry to say I think I may have to drop off the game as I wont most likely have time to play around christmas time either :(

Bwaha December 15th, 2008 01:20 PM

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Try some Echinacea/ Goldenseal mix. Echinacea purpurea is a great imminune booster. Hydrastis canadensis is as well but very potent. Don't use it on a common basis though because it can cause a host of side effects. See a herbalist that knows what they are talking about for details.

I don't see any reason for you to go. I'm sure we will have a pleasent and busy holiday season. I think if someone wants a delay it can be worked out. :D

AreaOfEffect December 15th, 2008 03:27 PM

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Tis the season for delays. I think well all be understanding.

JimMorrison December 15th, 2008 04:25 PM

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Echinacea can be used in a fairly ongoing manner without serious side effects, at low dosages. It can be megadosed for upwards of a week with no problems as well.

Goldenseal (Hydrastis) however is extremely powerful in action, and should be used sparingly, for short periods of time. It can also be somewhat megadosed for a few day period as long as not being used before or after, but it will make your liver work very hard (not that Goldenseal itself is hard on the liver, but it ejects toxins from your system).


Though if you are still feverish, what I generally do is burn the fever out, intentionally. If you can get some Sambucol (Black Elderberry Extract), it has some extremely powerful anti-viral activity. Take a big swallow of that, bundle up tight, and rock yourself to sleep. Probably wake up in an hour or two, dazed, delirious, and hot. That's good, take another swig of Sambucol, relax, and fall back asleep. When I do this, and push my temperature up a couple more degrees, I am over the illness and just having recovery symptoms (lung butter, et al) within 6-8 hours.


At any rate, good luck. Hopefully you're back in action soon. <3

Bwaha December 15th, 2008 06:50 PM

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I beg to differ with you Jim. I feel that boosting your immune sytem over a long term just makes it weaker and dependent on the herbs. At least thats my take on it. Do consult a herbalist before taking Goldenseal, It has been banned in some states due to people overdosing on it. Yes herbs are powerful and not to be taken lightly. :D

I didn't know about Sambucol, I'll have to ask about it. If it is good I'll have to add it to my gear. Does it taste as vile as Echinacea? Nah it couldn't, nothing tastes worse...:D

AreaOfEffect December 15th, 2008 07:58 PM

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I tend to make a pot of chicken soup and drink hot cider when I'm feeling ill. But I guess that makes me a freak.

JimMorrison December 15th, 2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 660373)
I tend to make a pot of chicken soup and drink hot cider when I'm feeling ill. But I guess that makes me a freak.

No, the freaks are the ones that when you mention hot tea, ask you if coffee is okay because it's the only "hot" thing they can come up with, that's liquid. O.o


And yes, some say that any extended period of Echinacea -can- make the immune system dependent on it. There's of course not really any studies done. My basic rule of thumb, is that the longer you use it, the less you ingest at a time.

The Sambucol is Black Elderberry. It's almost vile, but it comes as a syrup, and really isn't that bad, compared to whatever horrible virus you have, and any other meds people might try to push onto you.

I thought the limitations/bans on Goldenseal were entirely due to the misuse in masking drug testing results? I'd be willing to bet if anyone has actually caused any liver damage, or gone to the hospital, it's because of that as well. Megadosing is always something you want to be cautious with, as most herbs have almost 0% side-effects at their normal effective dosage, but many can make you feel a bit sick if you overdo it. Personally, I've come to the point where if I really want to cleanse my system, I just do a purifying complex of Goldenseal, Echinacea, Peppermint, Red Raspberry Leaf, Dandelion Root, and Milk Thistle Seed (all at the normal dosages or slightly less, and relying on the synergy). Sometimes other herbs pop in to say hi, like Ginkgo or Gotu Kola. :p

AreaOfEffect December 15th, 2008 10:18 PM

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I've heard it said that once a year you should consume a can of horseradish in order to cleanse the system. Though I'm talking exclusively about the bowels. Will have side-effects, like can't leave the bathroom.

Edit: By the way. Do any of you have a remedy for leprosy, cause that might come in handy... ha ha ha.

JimMorrison December 15th, 2008 10:53 PM

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Horseradish in a can? :o

I have much less painful concoctions to ingest, to clean the pipes out. :p Google "Internal Saltwater Bathing" if you get a chance. It is really quite effective, and not nearly as horrific as eating a "can" of horseradish, or taking an enema.


Caelum is not afraid of your veiled threats, however. We live to die, that is duty, that is honor. :hurt:

Bwaha December 16th, 2008 12:43 AM

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People have died from ingesting too much goldenseal. Thats why I'm very cautious about letting people just take it. Heh, there's a method to rid yourself of poison oak allergies, I do it every time I go deep into the woods. I eat one tiny baby leaf about 4 weeks before I go. I knew a guy that thought if a little was good a bowlful would be better... It wasn't pretty... :nono: A little cautionary tale. :D

JimMorrison December 16th, 2008 02:26 AM

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Well, unless 46852 is a pregnant or lactating woman..... he is very unlikely to suffer a real reaction any kind of "reasonable" amount of Goldenseal.

I'll admit though, I don't often recommend its use either. But mostly because it's so expensive, and you use it so sparingly in general. I would hope that when I flippantly use a term like "megadosing", that someone unfamiliar with the herb, the term, or both would completely avoid the activity without more information.

Probably crazy for me to expect people to act rationally at all, but maybe I just assume a lot about our Dom3 peeps. :p

Bwaha December 16th, 2008 01:38 PM

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Hmm, I never thought of people using it to mask substance abuse. Maybe thats how they od on it. Anyway it is a useful tool when your ill with a viral illness. Thats something we can agree on. :D

PS. I just looked on line about this herb. Now I regret ever mentioning it, its now a endangered species. So I suggest growing some in your garden rather than harvesting in the wild. :D

Bwaha December 19th, 2008 07:40 PM

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After looking at the recent turn I'm thinking what Custer's last thoughts were. Look at all those !@#$ing Eagle warriors. :D

AreaOfEffect December 19th, 2008 08:55 PM

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Just wait until you see the rest of them.

AreaOfEffect December 31st, 2008 10:51 AM

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I vote that we end the game and call it a draw. We are all sort of big and bad and I'm sure we could war on for a really long time, especially given our lack of enthusiasm.

If you must know, I've got 2 tartarians up and running without feeblemind as well as the chalice. I've got enough nature income for GoR every round. If someone wishes for the chalice from me I could eventually wish it back. I'd use my extra stock of nature gems to just cast GoH until that happens of course. Then there are the matrix slave vine lords who will have over a dozen buffs each and are already kitted out with artifacts and the like. Not to mention my actual flying army of sacred units and mages sitting on Ashdod's cap. Ghost riders and horrors and blah blah blah. Lets just call it a three way draw and get some fresh new games for a fresh new year.

Bwaha December 31st, 2008 01:43 PM

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I agree, I'm sorry I didn't have the time to pay this game enough attention. See yah. :D

JimMorrison December 31st, 2008 05:18 PM

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Thank god, I was just going to brooch the subject again myself.

With Bwaha staling (understandable, it happens), it was looking more like Ashdod would have to go AI. Problem is, I'm already being run in circles by 2 AIs down in the south (Bandar Log decided they wanted to play, even while getting crushed by Vanheim).

This was an incredibly fun game while it lasted, and the real shame here is that we did not get the chance to have a proper showdown, but I would be willing to say I think the game lost its soul when Calahan disappeared, but sort of just refused to die.

I didn't have as many top end tricks as you, AoE, as I was hampered by HORRIBLE gem income in my starting lands (I had 5 Air, 6 Water, and 5 Astral I believe, before attacking Abysia), but I was stressing versatility, and was soon to summon all 3 of the Fire Kings, as well as the Air Queens now that I had the Gale Gate up. Of course, your Tarts probably had full immunities, but the Queens would just raid, which is what most of my armies would do. It would be bloody and exciting, if the game was still wanting to be played. :p Darn, now I have to find another game to play in as Caelum, I learned some interesting tactics in this game, and I'd really like to chalk up a win before attempting a new guide for them. ;)

<3

AreaOfEffect December 31st, 2008 06:19 PM

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Before you write that guide you should talk with me about some thoughts I've been having about them. I've become really interested in middle age Caelum and might play them as well in the near future.

Thanks everyone for a fun time. See you in another game.

46852 January 8th, 2009 09:09 AM

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Hey everyone, I have to apologize for my abrupt absence from the end game, I truly am sorry :(

As I already said I caught a nasty virus that kept me in my bed really feverish for around a week (Coxsackie A virus for those who are interested... hmm spelling instruction "cocksucka"?), after that my daughter and wife got it too et cetera et cetera, a vicious cycle of everyone being sick, nice way to spend the Christmas and end the year.

After that it was holidays and travelling and I rudely kind of forgot the whole Dom3 business, I feel bad about that now, should have at least tried to check that you got a replacement for me.

PS. I'm intrigued to see all the herbalists giving advice here, such a resourceful community! :)

PPS. No, I'm not a pregnant woman, so I could have given that Goldielocks or whatever a try ;)

AreaOfEffect January 8th, 2009 05:06 PM

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Well, thanks for checking in. Sorry the holidays sucked. Perhaps a rematch when I'm up to joining another game.

Calahan April 11th, 2009 03:20 PM

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Hello everyone.

First up, I'd like to apologise to all the players in this game for my sudden disappearance last October. The short version of a very long story is that I went to Greece due to work, and while there I unfortunately ended up in a rather nasty RTA (Road Traffic Accident) on day one. Beat that for a poor start!!! This was then the cue for me to spend one month in a Greek hospital for myself :hurt:, and a further two months at the hospital looking after a close relative who was involved in the same accident. Credit where credit's due. This episode did a bang up job of turning my life on it's head :confused: Thankfully everything turned out more or less ok in the end, but it certainly took ages for things to return to anything resembling normal.

Anyway, enough of all that (since I've certainly had enough of it the past six months) and back to the business at hand, which is for me to say sorry once again. This time I'm sorry for depriving you all of what was shaping up to be a really great game. I haven't had chance to go through all the game thread yet, so not sure how the game panned out, but I'm guessing that the 'Big Bad' dropping out must have brought about a fairly disappointing change to the games growing flavour. No idea how this game would've developed had I not encountered a real life "Doom Truck" (tramping+fear effects) but the fun as always would have been in finding out :) Although it's difficult to imagine how 'Lord Of The Rings' would have been as good if Sauron had simply disappeared when things were getting interesting at the start of the 'Two Towers' book , with the rest of the story revolving around how the Elves and Man shook handbags at each other, while the Hobbits talked about what makes a good breakfast :) You just can't beat a good old classic 'everyone unite against the big evil bad guy' story :D And who knows, one day the bad guy might actually win ;)

Finally, I'd just like to thank everyone who played in this game, with an extra thanks to AreaOfEffect for organising the whole thing and coming up with the map. Also thanks to Llamabeast of course for his excellent server. I hope to, and am looking forward to, playing in games with you all again soon now that I'm back. I should be around for a good long while as well, so no need to fear me dropping out of future games. Since I certainly had no intention of leaving in the first place. I can safely say that MP Dominions is the first time I've enjoyed computer gaming since the heydays of the late 80's/early 90's. Though I do of course reserve the right to disappear again in the future should I have another encounter with a truck-driving colour-blind Albanian. But that's just common sense isn't it :)

AreaOfEffect April 11th, 2009 04:01 PM

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Welcome back! Nice to see you alive, if not completely well. We sure did miss you.

I must say the ending of the game came to a screeching halt. We subbed in a player after a series of stales and it just wasn't the same. I rolled over a rather large army of yours using a series of battlefield buffs and stellar cascade spam. That, for me, was the last interesting thing that I remember. I guess I could dig up the replay if you want to see.

We unfortunately declared the game over and nobody won. Sad part is that the match up between me and Jim would have made for quite the show in my opinion.

Calahan April 11th, 2009 08:14 PM

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Thanks for the friendly message AoE :) Only had chance to lightly browse the forums so far, but I must say it feels so so good to be back :happy:

Yeah, from reading the last few posts on this thread it certainly seems like this game just died and lost most of its meaning after I disappeared. Makes me feel even worse about it now :o despite it being out of my control. And what I'm sorriest most about is the huge lost potential that went with it :( I was predicting many epic battles ahead, and was so looking forward to the challenge of being labelled the 'Enemy of All' and squaring up against all the other nations from my lofty position :p With my loyal (I hoped) flying sidekick on hand of course :D

And thanks for the offer of seeing some of the battles. But don't think I could emotionally handle seeing all my lovely Adons put to the sword :( The pain. The pain.

JimMorrison April 11th, 2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 685261)
You just can't beat a good old classic 'everyone unite against the big evil bad guy' story :D And who knows, one day the bad guy might actually win ;)

With Sarumon leading Caelum to help crush the armies of men, I think evil had a good shot, since I was insulating almost your entire border, and had managed to keep anyone from attacking me for "protecting" you. ;)


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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 685272)
We unfortunately declared the game over and nobody won. Sad part is that the match up between me and Jim would have made for quite the show in my opinion.

It was looking to be exciting. I really got screwed early on (placed in the center, post expansion gem income of 5A and 4W, or the other way around), but I converted my 3Magic scale into a strong mid-game push. I think you would have won a 1v1 (though it was more of an FFA by that point!), but I was starting to develop some very interesting tactics with Caelum, so it likely would have been a very bloody clash either way.


Anyway, glad you're back and okay, Cal! Was really worried for you, man. Let that Albanian's insurance company know that your MP PBEM ally wants to sue for mental anguish and loss of victory compensation. :p


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