Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

I can download the map but i can't play on it; it minimizes the game and brings up some pop-up. Thats not important though- i think it will work once i get the 0 turn file. What i wanted to see is how many provinces our starting province will be adjacent to. Can anyone say?

Also, in team games, what would happen if i move my army into a friendly neighbour's province? Does the game know we are playing teams, will it let us move into each other's lands? Will it let us fight as combined arms in multi-army battles?

Thanks.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

No, the game doesn't understand alliances. You can never join forces with an ally or move through allied territory without capturing it.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

When are we starting?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

You can however move units that are stealthy into the same province as your ally and through their territory. While the game is not terribly team friendly in that sense, with proper coordination, you can usually make things work fine.

If you'd like to check starting province neighbors you can load up the map in the editor and right click around to see them.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

Gandalf is performing his wizardry and we are placing human teams. We shall be ready for pretender uploads soon.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

A few game notes:

I am pleased that Micah has stepped forward to advise The Blessed Ones team and answer any questions they may have.

Chris has asked to change his team name from Noobheim to ACGHHS, which apparently corresponds to the first letter of all his team members alphabetically. I was sorta of fond of Noobheim myself :), but this is of course the team captain's perogative. We will allow a single name change if any other captain wishes to follow suit.

The team forums, groups, and main post will be updated to reflect this change.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

I'd like to rename the admin team to Rluaieomgblilrhtogh.

Or can only team captains do renaming?

Just you wait. I'm known for my adventures into ridiculous names. I was once named Almhalmarguillamgua Guarrilgruillem in an MMO.

People called me Al.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

Deva's Darlings are changing their name to
Q))((###@'_WW+_++`''''&

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

The artists' formerly known as "Q))((###@'_WW+_++`''''&" will now be known as http://www.illuminati-news.com/graph...ssion-logo.gif

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

Hmmm, perhaps I will do away with that rule, people seem to come up with some rather strange ideas.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

Aw, and I was just about to change the Mysterios to The Giant Monkey Demon Mystery, which I think sums up our nations pretty well.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Pretender Design, AI Creation.
 

Sounds like a horror/fantasy novel for young adults.

Not to try to influence the great taste of the Captains :rolleyes: but here's some ideas that actually sound like team names:

The Mystery Men

Chris' Curmudgeons

Algae Eaters

Nymphomania

Agema's Agitators

Pedersen's Panoply of Pain

Praetorious' Punishers

Praetorians

Dr. P & Co.

I could live with these types of names.

Sounds much better than a string of letters, numbers, or weird characters. :puke:

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Laugh as you will,

but I ran our team name by our team. To me Noobheim sounds like 'the Kingdom of the Noobs' and honestly we deserve better.

I would never accept a team name such as Chris's Curmudgeons - we are a team. Each member participates to the best of their ability.

So, while ACGHHS (Ax for short?) doesn't flow trippingly from the tongue, it emphasizes the values of team work, cooperation, and common purpose.

Chris
Team ACGHHS

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

You could go for "Team AAAAARGH!"

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Lol...

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

other possible names are team ahahahaha or team that will achieve victory though total domination

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Nah thats team 'talk like a pirate day'.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Well it sounds better than the Q))((###@'_WW+_++`''''& proposed by DrP I suppose.

Seriously though, if I didn't think you were serious, I wouldn't have changed it.

Looks like the trash talk has started :rant: either that or people have too much time on their hands.:lol

It's about time!

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

How about Bloodheim? Both evocative and apropos.

As for me, I'll be keeping my team name for the above reasons.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, How about BloodBringer (Blends well with one of the teammates me thinks:up:

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Actually 3 of the team names used for this game were derived from NvV history and were intended to be thematic. Noobheim was one of them. When the Vet's got their butts whipped :yield: for the second and final time in Noobs vs. Vets III, the Noobs were very popular throughout the land. The tribe, clan, and peoples (Noobs and Vets alike) who would eventually come together :five: to form the Kingdom of Noobheim (and take up arms against the AI threat) was formed in this early period, hence it still retains the name Noobheim, though it is comprised of different races and levels of player. ;)

I like Bloodheim too, or The Sanguinarium, Blood People, etc.

Makes it easy for a captain to follow the theme and pick appropriate nations.

I also like The Mystery Men (stealth/glamour), Children of Doom (death nations?). Maybe I'll use those three next time along with the name of the winning team from this game.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Just to drop a dibbling of whats coming since it could apply here....
I have three common tactics when asked to be creative in this area.
One is put all the names in a hat, break them up into syllables, then rearrange pieces. I often use that as a recommendation when asked "how can I come up with a unique name for my baby" or something like that.

Another, which can be fun here, is to take a common word that comes to mind and check thesaurus.com for alternatives.

However, the AI will be using my joy of mnemonices. I had a start but Yomi got taken out.
With Yomi removed from my options I have moved tentatively to this....
BTW:
Since this is the first of 3 planned games, the AIs are not insanely maximized. They are "good" AIs. The nations involved will be using the games list of pretenders for them, their own standard castle, their own standard units, sites, etc. The builds shall be forum-standard recommended with extras. Extra units and starting sites will be granted. Extra starting equipment (but nothing rated unique). And of course, they will be allied. These things will not be true for the later games.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

If my team prefers the Sanguinarium, or the people of Blood, I've no problem with either.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Interesting description. These idolaters of N.I.C.A.E.A clearly represent a threat to all nations and peoples, one that must be overcome before true victory and ascendancy can be achieved.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

I'll grant you and your team an exclusive opportunity to make one more change to your team name before the game begins if you wish (once we begin changes to team names will not be allowed), but you can stick with what you have if you like. No problem. :cool:

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Team forums server currently down, hopefully it is only temporary.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Still down :(

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Still down here and with chris...

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Yeah, there's like 154 websites on that server, so I am hoping they'll get it back up soon. The domain name for our free forum host is not supposed to expire till July of next year so I was hoping they would last that long at least.

I hope everyone has pretty much gotten their pretender designs and basic strategy discussed and all and most of the pregame stuff out of the way.

I am working on creating backup forums using a more reliable host and server with full attachment functionality and no ads (I think I have found a decent one) in case the server does not come back online soon. It will be a shame to lose all that work and messages, but when it's free you never know. When created I'll enable self registeration so getting back into the grove won't be as painful. If need be I can always use forumotion (though it has ads) and just keep everything together.

It's too late to turn back now.:)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Just so everyone knows, especially my team, I'm going to a conference which, including travel, will occupy me from now until Friday 23rd. I'll have internet access and (unless some pinches my laptop) Dom3 to get things done; I will log in at least daily, do essentials to get the game started, help my team out, and will not need to ask for any delays.

However, please be aware I will not have a lot of time, so sorting really detailed and complex stuff out may not be possible.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Ok, the backup/new forums are online and can be found here:

http://noobsvets.hostingdelivered.com/

If the old forums don't come back up, these will become the default forums.

This is a more stable host and the gold version of PHPBB3 which includes full attachment functionality.

Self registration is enabled. You will still need myself or melnorjr to move you into the appropriate groups so you can access your teams forum though.

Sorry for any inconvenience. It is best to be ready just in case.

I'll repost the stickies in the new Neutral Ground forum ASAP.

Thanks.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

I'm registered in new forums Sept.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Can we get a link to the backup forums at the root of the thread?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Now all I need are the permissions to access my team forums and I'm good to go. :)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Thanks, everyone that has joined the new forums so far now has access to the appropriate forums. As is, captains are able to add new members into their group and forums via the user control panel, but I'm switching back to admin activation (I handle everything) till at least all the captains are our co-admin are on board.

I'll update the main post with a link.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

As Usual I can't seem to get things done the Easy way.

I can get to the Forums but it won't let me log in.

I had it send my password (just in case it was wiped out) but it says I don't exist.

grrrrrrrr

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

You'll have to re-register for the backup forums.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Ok, the old forums are back online. Everyone can continue using those as the default or if the team captains wish we can use the backup forums instead (if you want to take advantage of the attachments and functionality). Captains and players post your preference if any.

I recommended that everyone register on both forums just in case.

Now where are we?

We are waiting for team nation placements by melnorjr and AI creation by Gandalf.

I'd like to get moving to pretender uploads and hopefuly turn 1 by this weekend.

Lets get this party started shall we.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Poll for everyone involved in this game:

Shall we use the new forums as default and keep the old ones as backup or shall we just stick with the old forums and keep the new ones as backup?

Pro: The new forums may be more reliable and have added functionality such as attachments and subscriptions might actually work.

Con: Everyone is already signed up on the old forums and all our messages are already there.

Let me hear you!

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

I'm sticking with the old ones for now - but can't every team decide individually? We don't even really need the public areas on those forums, since we have this thread...

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

My apologies for the delay on the startlocations - I just pmed them to septimius.

I would like to note however, that there might be some issues with them, as one team has two instances of two of their capitols with only one intervening province, and one player has a start with 4 connecting provinces, one of them a swamp, and another player has 7 connecting provinces.(I was given what provinces to place people in, and used a random number generator to determine which team was where, so if your starting province seems unbalanced in some way, it wasn't me. :p )

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Thank you Melnorjr for your work. Every human team's capital has at least 4 province neighbors. Some capitals may have more but each team has some with more as well. The nature of the random geography of this small map with regard to placement led to 2 teams having one or two capitals that only have a single province intervening (yellow and green), however in both instances their is sufficient space for expansion, and I don't think anyones going to get Dom killed. In one instance a mountain range intervenes making it 3 provinces distant in terms of connections. Anyway these starts have been public for more than a month, everyone has had plenty of time to examine them. I recommened that we just get on with things and not sweat the small stuff. Unless you prefer more delays or option 2 starts.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Yes, every team can decide individually and we will keep both forums, but I'd like to know which one the majority of people prefer so I can list one as backup and one as primary on the main post. I want as little confusion as possible. The neutral forums also provide a vehicle for inter-team coordination against the AI, rather than posting here, so I'd like people to tell me their preference.

The neutral forum also acts as a backup should there be an issue with the Shrapnel thread for whatever reason.

Thanks.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Hey, have the maps been updated with starting locations?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Team starting locations will NOT be released. I want no grumbling, fussing, and anything else that might delay our already very delayed game. Once the game begins, you'll know where your team is (North, South, East, or West) of the center. As DrP says, you get what you get, so make the most of it.

If you mean am I going to write in the province numbers from the doc file, if someone wants to do so, feel free or create your own for your team. My image editing software might just make a mess of things.

Every individual nation within a team has been placed according to either the default placement I have specified or your submitted alternative (if you sent me one). Overall, most things are as balanced as I have time and desire to make them.

Next game, I'll play around with a larger map and I'll have room to spread things out a bit more.

Hmm, well as usual, I see few responses to my inquiries and requests for opinions, so I must take that as people don't care which forum is designated primary or secondary. Therefore we shall use the original forums as our primary forums and the new ones as backup. Unless I hearing something else soon.

Note: If this is the case, I will only be monitoring the original forums and this thread for any delay or substitution requests unless something happens again with our original forums. I really don't have to time to check both of them.

Thanks.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Response:
okay, great- i think its best to keep the forums we have going since we already started there.

Now, like you say, lets get this game going so that we can actually make use of the forums to discuss stuff.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Just waiting on Gandalf now, though I may be able to create the game before this.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

I am with my team captain on this. It doesn't really matter to me which forum we use, and although the added functionality of the new forum is nice it is probable it will remain largely a backup forum.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

i should mention, i'll be gone from oct 19th-oct 24th, so i will not be able to comunicate with my team. i have a friend who can send in my turns for me, but he isn't on the forums. hopefully the first few turns will be ok for that.
thanks

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

Probably won't be an issue, especially if you or they can get your turns in and receive your turns, without an alternate having to be brought in, and you or they can communicate in-game with Agema or one of us regarding initial expansion, assuming we are able to start by this weekend.

Thanks for informing everyone though.

rdonj, thanks for the input on the forum question. I may use the new forums as the primary forums for the next game to take advantage of the extra functionality, though I haven't decided yet. It is good we had that downtime in a way, since it spurred me to look for a better forum host.