Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

I love the racial techs too much to pass up on playing them most of the time, but I had considered trying Temporal, which I have never really played. Even with the recent patch it would have been useless in this game, since Gandalph and I both never used shields at all. I was about to start adding shields to my ships, and I was certainly fearing that I would run into Gandalph's ships equipped with shields, since I had been using a combination of DUCs and organic weaponry. I did have some PPB research done and waiting in the wings, just in case.

So who am I going to face next??? Ohboyohboyohboyohboy!!!!!

[ February 03, 2003, 04:32: Message edited by: Cheeze ]

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Geo, did you get my e-mail to sign me up for the Gold tourney? (Not sure, but my e-mail may be acting flaky....)

Quikngruvn

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Yes quik. I got it. Just a little behind this weekend.

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Cool, no problem (and at least I know my e-mail's working http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

Quikngruvn

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Geo, I am sure you have more important things to do, but when do I move up a tier and then get pounded by a new opponent?

And you can delete the Cheeze vs Gandalph game, naturally. I'm sure I won't be so lucky against the big G next time we meet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Sorry Cheeze. I forgot to update that Last time. But I don't have anyone to match you against right now until one of the other base level matches ends. But I do have an opponent for Gandalph. Thanks for reminding me.

Geoschmo

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Cheeze, we may get a rematch after all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Depending on how long it takes this game I'm in with Darkhorse. But I'm sure we're getting closer to the end. My big fleet will either wipe out his home systems. Or my fleet will encounter a even bigger fleet and leave my defensless. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Should be interesting though if I pull this one off to rematch against you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Thanks Geo. I'm sure you have a full plate. Just thought I would send a reminder.

Ragnarok, that's great news! I'll look forward to seeing you in the next match, if it works out that way!! Guess I spoke too soon when I said there would be a rematch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Any ideas on 'Range check error'? I tried to search the forum for that but it looks like there is no cure...
In my 1.49 game it happened 2 times in a row meaning that the AI is playing for me (the moment is not the best to leave the control to AI).
Help... help... help... ... ...

Edit: This happens when I click anywhere on a map or on any ship.

Edit2: This was Win2k machine. I tried loading the savegame on WinXP and it works fine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ February 08, 2003, 12:23: Message edited by: Pablo ]

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Gozguy surrender to me at turn 70. This game was all about luck and not about skill.

It was never a fair fight because of the starting positions. Mine was great, with lots of good planets near my homeworld, and fairly close to the key systems. Gozguy was at the end of a long string of systems and although he managed to slip some colonizers out he never had a change to establish himself properly.

Well, guess I have used all my luck now and it will be pay-back time in the next round. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That just means that you have something set up wrong on the 2k machine, as SE4 runs perfectly fine on 2k. If you don't have Service Pack 3 for 2k, you should get it. Try making a fresh install of SE4.

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Congrats to Primitive. You get Cheeze now.

Gozguy, I don't have anyone for you at the moment. As soon as I do though.

My game against Nodachi is zipping along. We got a lot of turns in over the weekend.

Preacherman? You still awake up there? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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The anticapation is mind numbing. BTW I have 2 losses Asalma was the first.
Both of my opponets have stated I started with a bad position in comparsion with them could this be true or are they being kind to me? Should we playing on a set of standard maps to equlze starting position?

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I don't really want to use a standard map. I like the randomness of things. It should even out over all your games.

I suppose I could make up a new quadrant type or use something like Fyrons paradise quadrant that has less of a chance of bad systems.

Geoschmo

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Finally... an opponent for Cheeze.

I was beginning to think everyone was in fear of the hideous yellow calcium enriched wrath!

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Goz, fixed the standings.

Also, I don't mind at all if people want a premade map for their game. That's certainly an option if you can agree on it. I simply don't think it's something that should be mandated. I would just hate to play every game on the same map myself. A random map made by a third party that has been reviewed and given roughly equal starting positions is as acceptable option.

Geoschmo

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Update on my match vs Thermodyne:

As far as the "starting positions" concern, I was sweating bullets... My position was in a weird pipeline of at least 10 connected systems. With every warp, I held my breath that I would encounter Thermo, and the game would be over because I would be chocked off from the rest of the map. When I finally reached the gateway system, we met, (but it was an unarmed long-range scout). It was pretty obvious that his starting point was a good distance away. I established some position and have some breathing room to operate.

In the initial sparring, it has only been small scale. I have a feeling that fleets will be bashing heads soon enough.

I'm trying some new things this game. One thing is not investing in DUCs right away and investing the points into another weapon type- (no... not PPBs, although I usually do that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )Thank goodness Thermo is a long way off or his ships would have clobbered mine.

And yes, of course, I have stacked my combat stats and am now playing berserker for the first time.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

not going DUC is a pretty hard gamble (meson comes to mind as the only other fast option) finding your enemy next to you and not having DUC's is bad!

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

In the game I'm in with Gandalf we're quite close... but that's all part of the fun.

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Originally posted by Preacherman:

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup. This would be very bad. But I also like to agree to play with 3 starting planets... (a bit higher starting research). This way if the poop hit the fan I could divert my research into DUCs to catch up quickly.

Agreed- it is a gamble.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Our Homeworlds are 3 turns apart. I am lucky that my destroyers are over your Homeworld and not the other way around.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gandalph. Are you gonna win a game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If you do it quick you will get a rematch against me. I just finished off Nodachi and there is currently noone else waiting on the next level. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ February 13, 2003, 20:35: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Actually, I think it will be Geo vs. Stonemill

Thanks for the Game Stonemill

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Thank You, Thermodyne.

I sent you an email a little while ago with some observations about our game.

Until the next...

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Now that's just my luck! First I get my arse handed to me by Geo and now I get Thermodyne! Oh well, the gravestone should read N...O...D... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Actually, I wanted to tell Geo thank you for a fun game. The lesson was painful but I did learn from it!

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

hmmm, we feel somewhat lonely on our throne, could not someone suitable be found in time?

we want part of the action four ourselves.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gandalph. Are you gonna win a game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If you do it quick you will get a rematch against me. I just finished off Nodachi and there is currently noone else waiting on the next level. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not necessarily. We started at mid-tech level and he has e-built WP's that took care of my pesky frigates overhead and some I had on the way. This is what makes playing a human challenging, the ability to change tactics to suit the situation. Being as we are only 3 turns away from each other, I doubt this will take long.

[ February 14, 2003, 17:33: Message edited by: Gandalph ]

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

I had a two player game once (not a KOTH game) where we started in next door systems. Even so the game Lasted nearly 80 turns. The other guy was a master of deceptions, defensive emplacments and counter attacking. Even though I got a sizeable lead early it took quite a while to put him away.

Geoschmo

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JL and I are about 50 turns into a game where we started side by side.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WTH Man you should be happy

We could do it with SE3 if you want http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Geo,

LOL! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I know you are just about as romantic as I am. We started our game yesterday- Feb 14th - the first few turns I got in with the 'ol lady hovering behind me to go to dinner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

She's going to kill me one day...

Good progress with the turns, though. Still early on in the game. I'm not too happy with my start but I'll deal with it. It's been a while since I co-occupied a system in the middle of the map. Now it's very much like chess. Pretty tense. I expect we'll have some bashing soon...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Yeah, I actually got to go on to a movie with my wife Last night in between our turns. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

A chess match is a good analogy for this. It should be quite interesting to see how it plays out. I don't know what kind of start you got but it can't be too much worse then mine. And your little minefields cutting me off from everything beyond that central system doesn't help http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Geoschmo

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Ha Ha.... Were horrible are we not... I had a really busy week... Family stuff crashing down around me ( hospital stuff with immediate family and all is ok now)... Etc.... But still managed to kinda keep up on my 15 games and 2 single player games.... ( did not miss a turn... )

[ February 16, 2003, 03:28: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Stonemill was victorius. Back to the bottom I go.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, seems like we may go head-to-head next. That is, as soon as Gandalph gets off his butt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Thanks for the game, Geoschmo.

That was a weird standoff; the game really came down to one massive battle in the middle of the map. Very tense. I'm sorry, but I am very relieved that it turned out in my favor.

Above all, I want to say thanks for the speedy turns. I can't believe how many turns we zoomed through in about 2 days. Finished a match in a weekend. Now, that was nice. I did not forget what I was doing... Like Tesco points out, when you are in numerous games, it becomes difficult to remember the details for each (never mind real life)!

You must be wired to a CPU or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Cheers!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not a real person. I am an advanced artificial intelligence program running in a super computer at a university. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Actually it's funny because a bunch of times I just happend to log on and notice you had just done your turn a minute or two before. Also using the Real Time Client I can leave it running on my pc and walk away and can tell if you did your turn from the other side of the room. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, seems like we may go head-to-head next. That is, as soon as Gandalph gets off his butt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry. grandaughters 5th birthday so I was out of town. Also flu set in so when I got back, I was in no mood for turns. Did them today, and hopefully should end soon.

EDIT - Of course you could just surrender. ;-)

[ February 17, 2003, 20:56: Message edited by: Gandalph ]

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I already have an opponent for my next match. There is at least one person waiting to join, and Georgig will be moving back to the base unless he's taking time off. He hasn't answered my email yet.

Geoschmo

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Actually I don't after all. Georgig and CombatSquirill are matched and I am waiting.

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I was actually hoping to try a few tricks out on you Geo. They wouldn't have helped me win, mind you, but you would have got a chuckle out of them...

CombatSquirrel

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Will try to get there soon Geo. A rematch with you would be cool. You were my first KOTH loss and first of many teachers about one-on-one games. I now have a few tricks up my sleave, so to speak.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't hurry on my account Gandalph. Besides, I thought you were gonna win this game and I'd be playing Rambie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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My Goodness. Encountered Kazarp on turn 3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif And the quadrant ain't big enough fer the two of us.

Guess I won't skip DUC research. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heh, well either way it looks like Preacherman won't have to wait much longer for a challager to his position. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Gandalph and I have been playing one on one games.... The current one looks like a struggle.... ( NON KOTH ) So far I have been on the defencive.... But I believe I have been dictating where Gandalph will conduct his offencive opperations..

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Originally posted by Geo:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heh, I think you may be right. At this rate, he may die of old age before someone gets a crack at him.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Primitive and I met on turn 7 (It's turn 68 now)and been kicking my butt pretty much the entire game. Barring some freak accident and weird twist, he will win, it's really only a matter of time.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[Vague reference] Lenny and Sqiggy enter the quadrant... "Hello!" [/Vague reference]
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't hurry on my account Gandalph. Besides, I thought you were gonna win this game and I'd be playing Rambie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OOPS, you are right. I do anticipate a victory here, but I did in other games I lost as well. Rambie has been effectively countering my advances, but the battles have all been in his systems and a major battle in the next turn will determine if my counter to his counter will work.

EDIT - Unless he counters my counter to his counter with another counter. hee hee

[ February 18, 2003, 19:44: Message edited by: Gandalph ]