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namad April 17th, 2009 08:10 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
i'd recommend in some cases less bodyguards in the garrisons.

a SC doesn't need 15super elite bodyguards in a garrison where they will all autoroute after all the non-guardcommander troops are dead

the specific case i remember in which this was an issue was the scorpionmen bodyguarding some super scorpion king

JimMorrison April 18th, 2009 03:47 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- much stronger garrisons for gateways [Ptah + mummies + some nasty mages]

Make sure it's something that isn't reliably killable with something like, oh say, 20 LA TC Ancestor Vessels.


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- increased population in caves [10k for entrance, 5k normal caves, 15k for links to other players, 20k for gateways]

Possibly afford the inner player an actual income, or even the ability to effectively Blood Hunt - too cool. Also the 95% of nations that currently can't even operate in the caves without supply items, won't fall behind the other 5%, ie - LA TC.


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- bodyguards for many commanders

Is assassination/seduction a balance issue as well? I hadn't seen any used on the AI garrisons.


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- recruitable Seraphs in central island

O.O


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- some cool recruitables in swamps around central island [modded magic sites], recruitment of devils etc

I'd be careful with this. It's a fun idea that everyone gets guaranteed access to something powerful and fun, but the reality is that one person will likely reach critical mass before his neighbors, and then grab multiple sites before anyone can react. This will likely reliably be certain nations before certain other nations, so will reduce viable nation choices if it becomes too large a power factor.


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
- boots of youth on old mages

Very good call.


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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 686413)
Any other suggestions? Any garrisons need tweaking? (especially those leading to plains)

I was sort of thinking the garrisons holding people in should be stronger too (like the Portals). Have them set to be patrolling, to negate the advantage of stealthing past them. Flight would still be an issue though, not sure what to do about that.


Ultimately, on one level, I think there is too much flavor on this map for competitive play. There are a number of factors that can rapidly domino into massive imbalances, which becomes magnified by relative knowledge of the specific map content. Sure you can argue that everyone could read the .map file, but I'd have to say that while much of this community is at least minimally 'mod fluent', that will never encompass everyone in play - putting those individuals at a severe disadvantage compared to someone who knows where everything is, and what is guarding it.

DrPraetorious April 18th, 2009 10:42 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
The ring guardians were not a substantial obstacle to any bless-rush player. OTOH, I don't see how they could have been without seriously distorting other aspects of gameplay. Generally, I don't think that trying to put tough indies on the map is really any protection for anybody.

Did anyone else not get the 12h host notification e-mail this turn?

atul April 18th, 2009 10:46 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
I think the notification has either reverted to 8h or been disabled. Might've been so ever since the llamaserver crash earlier.

Zeldor April 18th, 2009 12:49 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
They are certainly turned on. There is no way to accidentally turn off notifications.

namad April 18th, 2009 03:23 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
would anyone like to trade me water,astral,nature gems

in exchange for fire/air/earth/blood/gold/forged items/national mages to charm

feel free to pm me please

Evilhomer April 30th, 2009 06:46 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
I thought I would have time to play this game once my work rotation ended and my 5 week vaccation started. Unfortunary beeing on travelling foot it has been more of a chore, so I will be steeping out of this game. My apologies to my team partner.

atul April 30th, 2009 07:17 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
That kind of stuff happens.

I myself have just got my hand into a cast, so playing large turns isn't that feasible for some weeks. Dunno what to do with this game. :-(

namad April 30th, 2009 10:16 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
let's brainstorm! any ideas to keep the game healthy and going?

DrPraetorious May 1st, 2009 10:37 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [1-2 subs needed!]
 
I will take over all the empty positions and see if I can somehow defeat Micah+QM?


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