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Illuminated One December 7th, 2009 01:48 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Eh, sorry I was one of the stalers, and noone attacked me, so I wasn't affected the slightest. Except that I got a chance to bid on the mercenary, that someone else got in the rolled back turn, but then I had no idea what he bid. So I was basically bidding under the assumption that someone else would do too, which I'd have done anyway. Or maybe not, I don't know. But after privately accepting the stale and playing the new turn, I can't go back from that.
I'd say lets just move on, unless someone can think of something better to do.

DrPraetorious December 7th, 2009 02:41 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
I agree that the best thing to do is move on from here.

Septimius Severus December 7th, 2009 04:44 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Yes, I agree lets move on, another interesting debate nonethless and I glad to see that people care enough to participate. My decisions were calculated largely to keep things moving as quickly as possible at the same limiting the opportunity for inappropriate behaviour as best I could. I'm an unconventional admin and this game breaks so many conventions it is hard to keep track:

1. Conventional games use CBM.
2. Conventional games host via Llamaserver.
3. Conventional games have a hosting interval of 24 hours till turn 20 at least.
4. Conventional games are FFA type games, not team games.
5. Conventional games don't include AI opponents.
6. Conventional games have a single admin.
7. Conventional games don't require months of preparation.
8. In conventional games admins don't put in the amount of time and effort that has been put into this game.

And the list goes on.

So lets get those turns in my friends and enemies.:up: Where's my turn enforcer?:D

Gandalf Parker December 7th, 2009 05:09 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
heehee. I think about half of those are more "impression" than fact. :)
As for the rest, Im majorly in favor of unusual games and feel there is even more territory to cover. The only reason to seek a standard in the games is for ranking purposes

rdonj December 7th, 2009 06:02 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Personally I do like games that do something a little different to keep things interesting every once in a while. It's like when I played starcraft. You can only play so many ffa games before you start to feel like you're just doing the same thing over and over. That's not really fun to me. It also doesn't help that I'm not really a competitive player. So I tended to gravitate more towards custom maps.

Septimius Severus December 8th, 2009 01:18 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 720924)
heehee. I think about half of those are more "impression" than fact. :)
As for the rest, Im majorly in favor of unusual games and feel there is even more territory to cover. The only reason to seek a standard in the games is for ranking purposes

Yes, one certainly gets the "impression" of that from looking at a sampling of the game theads on the Dom3 Shrapnel MP forum, which is what I was generally referring to. This is especially true for noobs who may not be aware of Gandalf's server or other games and options available. I bet if we were to look at the first page only, of the MP games thread here, we would find what I have said above to be true in 95% of the cases.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdonj
Personally I do like games that do something a little different to keep things interesting every once in a while. It's like when I played starcraft. You can only play so many ffa games before you start to feel like you're just doing the same thing over and over. That's not really fun to me. It also doesn't help that I'm not really a competitive player. So I tended to gravitate more towards custom maps.

Yes, cooperative games are so important but so rare (on Llamaserver anyway), and more unusual settings and pretender builds need to be utilized. Players should have choices among modded, unmodded Dom3, hosting platform, hosting interval, team or FFA, etc.

Our emphasis on team themes in the next game will hopefully bring something different without everyone trying to cover all the bases so to speak. This would leave interesting weaknesses and strengths. Everyone seems to go with variation of E and N blesses on their pretenders. I'd like to see some D9 or B9 blesses for once. Especially in a team who's theme is death or blood.

Lingchih December 8th, 2009 01:31 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Rollbacks are always bad. Sorry, just chiming in. But rollbacks are indeed, always bad.

rdonj December 8th, 2009 01:46 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 720965)
Our emphasis on team themes in the next game will hopefully bring something different without everyone trying to cover all the bases so to speak. This would leave interesting weaknesses and strengths. Everyone seems to go with variation of E and N blesses on their pretenders. I'd like to see some D9 or B9 blesses for once. Especially in a team who's theme is death or blood.

It's crazy how many eXnX blesses are being used this game. Two players on your team alone ;). An e/n bless can be very nice, but is not always the best choice. There are some nations that frequently take death blesses, but a b9 bless is just not very likely to be seen. If the death curse wasn't mr negatable, maybe you'd see people take it, but there's pretty much no reason as it stands to go above b8.

What I'd really love to see is someone running an a9 bless and taking everyone to the cleaners ;)

rdonj December 8th, 2009 02:31 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
By the way lanka, pan, sauromatia - Get your turns in! *cracks whip*

After waiting so long for that last turn I'd really like to get rolling again.

Squirrelloid December 8th, 2009 06:12 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 720972)
By the way lanka, pan, sauromatia - Get your turns in! *cracks whip*

After waiting so long for that last turn I'd really like to get rolling again.

Eh, I like to hold my turn for this game ~20-24 hours just in case a teammate needs me to do something, to ensure the game doesn't host in the interim. But as my team is entirely in, and the team forums are silent, I suppose I can be bothered to submit my turn.


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