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Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

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Originally posted by PvK:
Not essential, but would be an improvement, if done well. In most cases it would just be a minor modifier, but in a few it could be an important and interesting advantage. It would be possible to implement in an annoyingly wrong way, though so far Illwinter have done a great job. I can just imagine a rock-paper-scissors idiot designer making an annoyingly silly Version, though.

PvK

you mean like in empire earth, where you can beat ten units with only one which is the counter?

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

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Originally posted by Pocus:
you mean like in empire earth, where you can beat ten units with only one which is the counter?

Exactly. I figured out Stratego decades ago! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PvK

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

I see that you changed your avatar for a one which fit nicely with dominions. Does it means that the famous PVK will turn his attention toward dominions, and lessen his activities in SE IV forum?

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Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

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Originally posted by Pocus:
I see that you changed your avatar for a one which fit nicely with dominions. Does it means that the famous PVK will turn his attention toward dominions, and lessen his activities in SE IV forum?

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LMAO and why do you care about him? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

Heh. Ya, I didn't bother with an avatar for a long time. I was browsing Mr. Gervais' icons emporium and saw what I believe is the Black Knight from Monty Python and The Holy Grail, and couldn't resist. And hey, space emperors can wear great helms if they want to; theirs probably have life support systems and HUDs (cue Darth Vader breath sound effects). I am a big Dominions fan, but I'm sure I'll stick around the SE4 forum too. Needless to say, I'm very happy Doms found a home at Shrapnel.

PvK

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

I don't really like this idea.

Dominion units already have more numbers than your average RPG character. I don't relish having to grapple with a piercing, slashing and crushing damage and the corresponding armor types. More, if the unit has multiple weapons and armor. Not to mention items, special abilities, spells and afflictions.

Pidgeon-holing weapons into different 'damage types' doesn't strike me as particularly realistic. Arrows are different from spears, swords are very different from whips, etc. And, as far as I can see, the only differences in armor are already modeled in the game, that is, strength, weight and cost. Any differences in armor versus the different damage types would be largely invented, and not realistic.

It seems a bit too gratuitous an attempt to inject a blatantly obvious scissors-stone-paper model into the game. I don't like it when games designers do this, I much prefer subtler approaches which give you more choice, and are also more realistic. There shouldn't be a 'best' counter.

The game already features certain variations in the way damage is dealt and the way that it's recieved, apart from the raw numbers. The pikemen moral check, the flail bonus against shields, weapons with a double attack, armor-piercing damage, the knight's hoof attack and so on. I like these, I think that they add more flavor for less complication than damage types could ever do. It would be nice if there were more of them, and they were better explained.

I feel kind of mean for attacking Saber Cherry's idea, especially since he liked my idea about castle resources. Oh well. Sorry.

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

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Originally posted by Maelstorm:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pocus:
I see that you changed your avatar for a one which fit nicely with dominions. Does it means that the famous PVK will turn his attention toward dominions, and lessen his activities in SE IV forum?

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LMAO and why do you care about him? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <hr /></blockquote>because PvK made the proportion mod for SE IV, meaning he can put hundred of hours in tools for a game he likes. The more quality gamers we have for Doms II, the better the chances to have great third parties utils and mods.

Re: Damage Types: Pierce, Slash, and Crush

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Originally posted by Sandman:
I feel kind of mean for attacking Saber Cherry's idea, especially since he liked my idea about castle resources. Oh well. Sorry.

Yeah, bring it on, you %&$#@! Then, to add insult to injury, you refer to me as a "he"!!! Well, I don't disclose any personal information on public forums, but I can CERTAINLY tell you that my avatar (Cherry) is female!!!

No hard feelings. If you don't like it, you don't like it... your idea about resource priority is good regardless of whether your puny mind can grasp the more subtle complexities of damage types http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

-Cherry