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January 30th, 2004 10:54 PM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
Which reminds me of a new magic item I'm going to add, the "Cerebral Accelerator". A helm, it doubles a mage's total research output... BUT AT WHAT COST??? Bwahahahaha!!!!
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just have them get Feeblemind and Mute (so they are worthless for anything) and make the item cursed (This would be great for R'lyeh, Squiddies just having 'brain food' sitting around feeding them psychic energy).

Reminds me of Stephen King's the Tommyknockers with the dog ;P

Kristoffer O January 31st, 2004 12:40 AM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
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Originally posted by Uh-Nu-Buh:


2. The world's longest bows also had the world's longest arrows. This means that a 42KG draw (~100 lbs) would propel the arrow for longer than an equivalent English Longbow--so it actually had higher velocities, could travel longer distances, and hit harder.


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Welsh - tall men - long arms - long draws possible.
Japanese - short men - short arms - short draws possible
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ January 30, 2004, 22:43: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

Arryn January 31st, 2004 01:10 AM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
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Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Japanese - short men - short arms - short draws possible
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sigh. And the stereotyped myth continues ...

Kristoffer O January 31st, 2004 01:15 AM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
Sorry, I also like the unconventional hull penetrating myths better http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

johan osterman January 31st, 2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Japanese - short men - short arms - short draws possible

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sigh. And the stereotyped myth continues ... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We know what the japanese look like, they are small blue gnome like people living in mushrooms.

Arryn January 31st, 2004 01:37 AM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
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Originally posted by johan osterman:
We know what the japanese look like, they are small blue gnome like people living in mushrooms.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gah! Too much anime! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I'll bet the WW2 Japanese fighter pilots, who had to be 6' tall or better, must come as a surprise to you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

(Yes, I spend many hours a week watching the History Channel -- when I'm not playing Dom 2.)

Kristoffer O January 31st, 2004 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Arryn:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by johan osterman:
We know what the japanese look like, they are small blue gnome like people living in mushrooms.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gah! Too much anime! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I'll bet the WW2 Japanese fighter pilots, who had to be 6' tall or better, must come as a surprise to you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

(Yes, I spend many hours a week watching the History Channel -- when I'm not playing Dom 2.)
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Swedes are at least 7' so I'm not bothered.

Lord_Devi January 31st, 2004 01:52 AM

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I'll bet the WW2 Japanese fighter pilots, who had to be 6' tall or better, must come as a surprise to you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

(Yes, I spend many hours a week watching the History Channel -- when I'm not playing Dom 2.)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's complete crap http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif The japanese couldn't suit up thier ENTIRE air force with 6 foot tall Japenese. Don't believe everything you see on TV - It's possible though that maybe there was some sort of special unit maybe using some foreign design - or something.. that merely required different pilot dimensions. I mean really, other than the size of the cockpit(which were designed by japs), there's no reason to have tall pilots.

Arryn January 31st, 2004 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Swedes are at least 7' so I'm not bothered.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Aren't Swedes under 9' considered runts? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

BTW, is that 7' the height or size of ego? Or both? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Uh-Nu-Buh January 31st, 2004 02:22 AM

Re: Ashikaga Shogunate mod v1.01
 
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Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
Welsh - tall men - long arms - long draws possible.
Japanese - short men - short arms - short draws possible
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I believe the height remark space is actually true. I lived in Japan for years, and the older the generation the shorter the people. According to statistics, the average height of a Japanese man was 5'4" before WWII, and it has steadily gone up ever since. One theory is better nourishment, another is the interracial mingling with Americans and Europeans that has increasingly taken place.

As for the Short Draw, that is not correct. The arrows are extra long, with the space between teh bow and the bow-string at the nocking point to be relatively narrow. The arrow is drawn back behind the ear, whereas with a European-style bow the arrow is drawn back to the cheek. The string keeps contact, and keeps pushing the arrow, for a longer distance, thus keeping the acceleration going for a longer time, thus giving the arrow a higher launching velocity. v=a*t. This is why the arrow is so effective at hitting small targets at over 120 meters. 100 meters is the regular distance event that even beginners participate in. 120 is the special seated event at Sanjusangendo temple. Long distance events will send arrows (fairly accurately) up to 300 meters. Fairly accurately meaning elephant sized targets--not eye-sockets.

It's a great bow, but just to put it in perspective, modern compound bows are much more powerful and accurate--unless you are talking about the mythological bows of the Heike era.


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