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OK OK OK - - - - Don't push me, Man! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Sheesh...
Maybe I want ether lords that are not so green and squishy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Actually... I am such a total loser... I have not even played every race (including R'leyh). Maybe I should stop dreaming for more and play with the toys I already have. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif I'm such a cry-baby. I always want a new toy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif In the words of that greedy little girl in Willy Wonka: I want a golden-egg-laying-goose, Daddy, and I want it NOW!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

Re: New Dom3 races! Post suggestions here!
 

Shouldn't we, the descendants of Ukko, dwellers of the house of Tapio, believers of the Bear, sing a verse or two to make a Readers Digest Version of Kalevala to our "illiterate" neighbors?

The point is that Kalevala should not be red in anything else than Finnish. It is impossible. It will not make any sense. It taps from the very roots of the Finnish language which is impossible to translate into anything else in a sensible way.

A bit like surströmming, that should never be exported outside Sweden. The others would just not get it...

Maybe we could find a source with the essential events that takes place in Kalevala in readable form, or maybe compile a list of monsters and heroes both in Kalevala and the Finnish folklore in general.

Any kalevalistics out there? If we want Kalevala, we better work for it! Perkele! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gifWell, I decided to do my part in the Kalevala issue.
Here are some quite nice links:

A "Reader's Digest" Version of Kalevala:
http://www.edj.net/mc2012/fiftyrunos.htm

Some Personal notes on the "RD" Version:
Tuonela = The place beyond. The place where the dead go.
Tuoni = The ruler of Tuonela.
Hiisi = IMHO should not be associated with the Devil as the RD-translation suggests, but more like a poverful evil spirit or maybe a Demon.
Kantele= a five-stringed harp. Väinämöinens main "weapon".
Sampo = an artifact. A magic mill that made salt and gold.
Ilmatar= The mother of Väinämöinen. Can also be thought as a air (wind) spirit (or goddess).Her name directly translated would be something like Airess.

Some Kalevala info:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...kienroots.html
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/
http://www.helsinki.fi/kasv/nokol/kalevala.html
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/kalevala.htm
http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/fo.../kalevala.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Part...8/KALEVALA.HTM
http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/en.../kalevala.html
http://www.brainyencyclopedia.com/en...mythology.html
http://www.enotes.com/kalevala/13215

Finnish mythology:
http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/f...-mythology.php
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/IsisShrine/Finnish.html
http://altreligion.about.com/library...l_glossary.htm
http://www.finnishmyth.org/indexbasenor.html

Remember, if we don't get a Kaleval theme in Dom3, we will beat you at least five years in a row in the Ice Hockey WorldCup. (There will be longbearded harp-guys chanting behing the Swedish goal) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

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Not as good as the Finnish Version, of course, but still adequate. http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/, From the story of Joukahainen (written as Youkahainen in there, can you believe?):

Angry then grew Wainamoinen,
Wrathful waxed, and fiercely frowning,
Self-composed he broke his silence,
And began his wondrous singing.
Sang he not the tales of childhood,
Children's nonsense, wit of women,
Sang he rather bearded heroes,
That the children never heard of,
That the boys and maidens knew not
Known but half by bride and bridegroom,
Known in part by many heroes,
In these mournful days of evil,
Evil times our race befallen.
Grandly sang wise Wainamoinen,
Till the copper-bearing mountains,
And the flinty rocks and ledges
Heard his magic tones and trembled;
Mountain cliffs were torn to pieces,
All the ocean heaved and tumbled;
And the distant hills re-echoed.

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Sweds doesn't get it either. Trust me. My brother nealy puked when we tried it. Rotten tinned fish that smells like fart. Whoa!

Fortunately Kalevala is quite melodic in swedish and even if loosing something in translation it can be translated. Surströmming doesn't need to be translated. It stinks in any language.
My Version of it has a sum up, but as most sum ups it leaves all the interesting details that are useful. I'll take a look at your links.

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What about a nation that can use it's commanders to morph its troops? You can only recruit one weak standard unit, but every commander has a distinctive morph command to transform them into something special during battle.

So the enemy will never know what to expect

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Hmmm lycanthopic? changeling?

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How about a modular race? Not robotic but inorganic/magical (elemental?). Im thinking of many small weak cheap units suitable for swarming. And larger units which can be formed by x number of units. So if you have a combat group (probably the easiest way to do it) of 5, then in combat they become 1 bigger Version. And a 10, a 20, a 50. Each successive size might also gain some ability or use.