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Atrocities March 14th, 2007 09:28 AM

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Since the demo was released I've railed against the UI so it's gratifying to see Atrocities admit I was right after all.

Huh?
I have gone back through my posts and can assure you that I have made no such statement. To the best of my recollection I have always stated that the UI has been the most definitively identified negative aspect of the game. Now that most of the bug issues have been addressed I am hopeful that following AI improvements, the UI will be polished. Priorities are what they are and bug fixes will always be at top of the to be fixed queue. UI issues are generally relegated to the bottom of the list of things that need addressing. But eventually they are looked at and in most cases taken care of. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I agree though, the filters do need work as they seem to be as you say rather "clumsy."

Ragnarok-X March 14th, 2007 10:53 AM

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Yes, i agree with AC, he never stated the UI is good as it is.

Fyron March 14th, 2007 12:58 PM

Re: Vote: Who is still playing SEV ?
 
frightlever said:
Since the demo was released I've railed against the UI so it's gratifying to see Atrocities admit I was right after all.


You would be hard pressed to find any beta testers (AT included) stating that the UI is excellent.

Raapys March 14th, 2007 01:46 PM

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Am I the only one who doesn't really like the new 3D system view? I see people complain about the UI all the time, but I can't recall other people mentioning the system view.

To me it feels really awkward; the camera is strange going back and forth but rotates to the sides(?), you never really get the entire system inside the window at the same time, the screen icons and such are obviously not designed to work with the top-down style( thus rendering it useless ), etc.

It's night to day compared with SE IV's excellent top-down 2D view.

Suicide Junkie March 14th, 2007 07:09 PM

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The SE5 system view isn't unusable, but it is certainly very wasteful of screen space.

SE4 showed who was present and how many ships they had, using only a 24x10 pixel area.
SE5 gives you the choice of illegible blobs at 50x30 pixels or gigantic blocks that blot out the view of multiple hexes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

We should bug Aaron to use 2D text, like Starfury had, instead of this huge, blurry 3D stuff.

gregebowman March 14th, 2007 08:11 PM

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Well, my first downloaded version of the demo had some errors on it, so I'm downloading another version of it. As long as my computer can play that, I'll be a happy camper. I'd love to be able to play Civ4, but it's taken me a year to get my computer working. I'll have to be patient for the higher requirement games.

Xietor March 15th, 2007 05:22 PM

Re: Vote: Who is still playing SEV ?
 
SEV is an embarrassment. They made money on it, but marketed an inferior product. It is a shame it was not tested more and fixed before release. SEiv was good mp, but the AI is terrible.

But at least SEiv is playable. No game, calling itself a game, should take 5 minutes to do a turn. That is just absurd.
And on a computer that runs WOW with no lag issues too.

Yimboli March 15th, 2007 05:42 PM

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@gregebowman: civ4 is definitely worth it!!!! havent tried the expansion though. I've spent hours playing civ4 over tcp with my friend across the country while talking on skype

GuyOfDoom March 15th, 2007 05:54 PM

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But at least SEiv is playable. No game, calling itself a game, should take 5 minutes to do a turn. That is just absurd.

What kind of TURN based games do you play? Any turn based game takes time between turns.

Yimboli March 15th, 2007 06:05 PM

Re: Vote: Who is still playing SEV ?
 
Of course all turn based games take time to process turns. Without trying to sound rude, I'm simply not sure what the point of your post was.

At any rate, I think Xietor is trying to say SE5 takes too long to process turns. I'm inclined to agree.

At least that's what I took from it.


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