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Sombre July 23rd, 2009 03:42 AM

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1. Are you sure that's true? Just because those ids are referred to by hero commands doesn't mean they're unique. I wouldn't think they'd interfere with each other. But if you've tested, fair enough.

2. What does that have to do with cbm?

Gregstrom July 23rd, 2009 04:10 AM

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wrt part 2, that seems totally unnecessary. CBM uses 53 mosterIDs, 16 weaponIDs and 25 armorIDs. That's less than some nation mods (well, not the armour slots, but you'd need to be running an amazing number of mods to use the other 175), and there's demonstrably no absolute shortage of headroom currently - see my sig for said demonstration.

Amonchakad July 23rd, 2009 06:49 AM

Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.5
 
Hi, I had a thought a moment ago while playing an SP game: what about giving the standard independent commanders map move 1?
It might actually make national troop leaders worthy of recruiting under some circumstances, because as of now they are quite worthless.

Sombre July 23rd, 2009 08:53 AM

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That was the case in cbm in a previous version. Don't think it's the case now,.. it's hard for me to tell since I always play NI.

quantum_mechani July 24th, 2009 12:32 AM

Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amonchakad (Post 702720)
Hi, I had a thought a moment ago while playing an SP game: what about giving the standard independent commanders map move 1?
It might actually make national troop leaders worthy of recruiting under some circumstances, because as of now they are quite worthless.

Yes, this was the case (as well as increased prices for indy commanders), but it was removed due to public backlash. Even the last vestige - normal indy commanders 40 instead of 30 - has had some complaints.

chrispedersen July 24th, 2009 02:59 AM

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QM:

Is why I am developing a batchfile to compile a mod.
In it, the player will ask questions: For example:

Lower Effectiveness Indy Commanders (Indy commanders set to mapmove 1, Cmd=30) ? If the player says yes, you add that bit of code into the mod.

This would allow really customizable games....

Gregstrom July 24th, 2009 04:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 702864)
QM:
For example:

Lower Effectiveness Indy Commanders (Indy commanders set to mapmove 1, Cmd=30) ?

I like the concept, although I wish you luck trying to give indy commanders 30 leadership.

Trumanator July 27th, 2009 05:02 PM

Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.5
 
Thought- Maybe make moon blades either one handed or AP? ATM they just don't seem powerful enough, as the vast majority of SCs depend on having high prot, and while the bonus against magical beings is substantial, I still think I would prefer to dual wield elf-banes, axes of hate, dusk daggers, use GCs, etc. If its meant as more of an anti-troop weapon then making it one handed would make me much more likely to use it since I could pair it with a shield.

Sort of OT- How exactly does the slay magic effect of the elf-bane work? I assume its some sort of MR roll? Similar question about the Smasher, how does its effect work?

Huzurdaddi August 4th, 2009 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 703280)
Thought- Maybe make moon blades either one handed or AP? ATM they just don't seem powerful enough, as the vast majority of SCs depend on having high prot, and while the bonus against magical beings is substantial, I still think I would prefer to dual wield elf-banes, axes of hate, dusk daggers, use GCs, etc. If its meant as more of an anti-troop weapon then making it one handed would make me much more likely to use it since I could pair it with a shield.

Don't forget that the x2 is after weapon damage+str (at least it was in Dom2). When a unit gets hit by a x2 or x3 damage weapon by any type of thugish unit it is generally toast.

Trumanator August 5th, 2009 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huzurdaddi (Post 704372)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 703280)
Thought- Maybe make moon blades either one handed or AP? ATM they just don't seem powerful enough, as the vast majority of SCs depend on having high prot, and while the bonus against magical beings is substantial, I still think I would prefer to dual wield elf-banes, axes of hate, dusk daggers, use GCs, etc. If its meant as more of an anti-troop weapon then making it one handed would make me much more likely to use it since I could pair it with a shield.

Don't forget that the x2 is after weapon damage+str (at least it was in Dom2). When a unit gets hit by a x2 or x3 damage weapon by any type of thugish unit it is generally toast.

I realize that, but personally, I would be much more likely to build a Gate Cleaver, or any of the other above named items. Moon blades are just too specialized, and the 2h status means they have to compete w/GCs and Flambeaus, 2 far superior weapons.


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