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atul September 4th, 2009 02:32 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
I believe the current suggestion is that any capital under Normal rule is vulnerable to Overlord attack only if there's Overlord dominion on the province.

kianduatha September 4th, 2009 02:50 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
On the plus side for the normal nation, though, you might be able to convince other overlords that you are much less dangerous having the capital. At least that might work with the first capital--after that, they might be less helpful.

Squirrelloid September 4th, 2009 03:06 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atul (Post 708792)
Nope, attacking capitals was explicitly banned.

From the concept thread:

"However, they can only attack normal nations or independents if their pretender is in the army or if they have dominion in the normal nation's (or independent's) province (an overlord cannot take a normal nation's capitol unless all other overlords are dead)."

So, if by some miracle all the normal nations are still alive when the 2nd to last overlord bites it, the overlord can start attacking normal capitols provided he meets the other requirements.

Also, they don't need dominion there if their pretender is present (i forgot that).

I don't see the problem with settings as written.

atul September 4th, 2009 03:16 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Well my problem was when capital was considered no more as a capital (when not in possession of original owner, when original owner is dead, for the whole game). Since people usually talk about X's capitals even when the original nation is gone.

Squirrelloid September 4th, 2009 03:21 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atul (Post 708804)
Well my problem was when capital was considered no more as a capital (when not in possession of original owner, when original owner is dead, for the whole game). Since people usually talk about X's capitals even when the original nation is gone.

Capitol has multiple uses, indeed. When people say X's capitol, and X no longer holds it, they're using it as shorthand for X's former capitol. To actually be a capitol it must meet the definition of capitol (center of government, etc... which seems to mean access to the capitol only recruitables in game).

rdonj September 4th, 2009 04:17 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atul (Post 708797)
I believe the current suggestion is that any capital under Normal rule is vulnerable to Overlord attack only if there's Overlord dominion on the province.

This is correct. Unless someone changes my mind by the end of the day this is how we are going to play it. This will require some rewriting of the rules in order to make sure it remains clear for once the game is started, so once I've decided my decision is indeed final the first post and the game concept thread will be updated appropriately..

Also I may slightly adjust the number of capitols required to win as the numbers given were for the full intended compliment of 24 players. Chances are any changes made would be minor, and largely to account for the lesser quantity of overlords.

LumenPlacidum September 4th, 2009 08:15 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Ok, since all this is theoretically coming together, can we please have a list of rules that we can reference without looking at two threads and having to delve into the threads for further posts with ideas that may or may not actually be upheld rules? I know I'm confused.

melnorjr September 4th, 2009 08:28 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
I'm in as a normal, if there is still room.

rdonj September 4th, 2009 08:40 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 18 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LumenPlacidum (Post 708833)
Ok, since all this is theoretically coming together, can we please have a list of rules that we can reference without looking at two threads and having to delve into the threads for further posts with ideas that may or may not actually be upheld rules? I know I'm confused.

Sorry for the confusion. As I said earlier a rule from the first post of the concept thread is still a rule for this thread unless specifically stated otherwise. However, I will go ahead and put all the rules on the first post of this thread just to make sure everything is clear.


Melnorjr - yes there is still room, your name has been added to the list.

rdonj September 4th, 2009 09:24 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. 19 of 24 players, last day to sign up
 
Okay, the opening post is, once again, updated. I don't believe I left anything out, although it is possible I did. There is still slightly more information in the concept thread's OP that is not in this thread, but not the actual rules. I don't think any pertinent information is missing but if there is something that would like to be added let me know.

Also, I have decided that I will indeed go with the ranked list method of nation selection for normals. Overlords will still be first come first serve. Once all of the overlords have finalized their choices, I would like for each player to give me a list of three nations they would be willing to play. If you do not care what nation you are, one will be assigned to you randomly. If you do not get ANY of your choices, further picks will be handled on a first come first serve basis. This information will be added to the first post of the thread.


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