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WraithLord January 1st, 2010 05:09 AM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
What? I'm faced with Baalz on first round? Maybe I'll try to "bend him to my will" so he'll drop at the last round (and use bribe if required) ;)
Damn but one of us will get no learning curve in this tourny.

Since this is prone to be an interesting match I consider posting the major battle videos to my you tube channel (and maybe charge for commercials :) ).
AoE, Baalz, is that ok by you?
(Anyone's familiar with a freeware windows video capture application?)

I agree that the rules should be kept simple and immutable. Simple and straightforward will help ensure that the tourny runs smoothly.

rdonj January 1st, 2010 06:11 AM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Hah, I would certainly be interested in seeing some of those battles. I think putting them on youtube is an excellent idea. In fact I encourage everyone who participates in this tourney to do so, and especially for exciting matchups such as WL vs Baalz.

You could try fraps. I never tried it, but it is my impression it's semi-popular. You can only record a certain length of time uninterrupted though without buying the full version, but if you had video editing software I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to combine several smaller videos into one larger one should the need arise.

Jarkko January 1st, 2010 07:16 AM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meglobob (Post 724329)
Lets just stick to the rules in the OP, this is the first tourny of its type and AreaofEffects rules/setup seem pretty good to me.

I agree, although I would ask him to consider the renaming rule one more time :) Even with 10 similar commanders it will take a while to find that one special one, and if I'd have to repeat that every turn, frustration would be the end result, when normally I'd just rename him and wouldn't have to go through the hassle.

AreaOfEffect January 1st, 2010 01:07 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
WraithLord, its alright with me if its alright with your opponents. I think it would be great to transmit the battles over the interwebs for others to see.

Jarkko, I'll reconsider the renaming rule.

Psycho January 1st, 2010 01:26 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
I support renaming on.

LDiCesare January 1st, 2010 02:09 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 724335)
(Anyone's familiar with a freeware windows video capture application?)

The only one I'm familiar with is Camtasia, which offers a 30 day free trial. That might be long enough for a blitz. There are others, like CamStudio or uvnc. Look for screencasting in wikipedia for a more extrensive list.
I'd try uvnc if I had to use one, because it is purportedly fast, while camtasia is indeed quite slow.

Baalz January 1st, 2010 02:47 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Yeah WL, no objection at all to recording stuff, that sounds like fun. Given the level of interest maybe I'll line up some sponsors. ;) I do tend to agree with Meglobob that this format tends to highlight my strengths as a player while minimizing my weaknesses (end game micro). Not that I particularly expect to win, certainly no shame to losing to Wraithord round one and might be fun to do some losers bracket duels for those that do get knocked out early and are still interested in playing.

Squirrelloid January 1st, 2010 03:48 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 724328)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid (Post 724324)
if we keep the current pairings and ordering, and collapse the pairings treelike, i predict a lingchih vs. [baalz, wraithlord] final matchup, where [b,w] is the winner of that match.

The upper-half bracket looks a lot rougher, starting with baalz and wraithlord facing off in round 1 (ouch!), and continuing with a number of pretty decent players, so i'd be more likely to bet on an upset in the upper bracket than the lower bracket.

Of course, I'm extrapolating based on observed MP-skill, which might not translate as well to duels.

Edit: I also predict Ling's first pick will be Nieflheim

You underestimate me Squirrel. I can beat either Baalz or Wraithlord, though it is nice to see them fighting each other in one of the first matches.

Sorry, that wasn't what i meant by that. I meant [baalz, wraithlord] is one of Baalz or Wraithlord depending on who wins their matchup. I wasn't making a prediction as to the ultimate winner of the tournament, just a prediction as to the match pairings.

Bananadine January 1st, 2010 05:20 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
I don't know a lot about screen capture but I've been using CamStudio lately for a project, and I can vouch for its goodness (for simple work at least) and freeness. I just tried it on a Dominions 3 battle and it worked acceptably well.

Here's how I record videos:

Capture the basic video into a giant, weakly compressed file with CamStudio, which has been configured to use the lossless CamStudio codec. (I think you have to download this codec separately.)

Use SUPER (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html, also free) to convert that into a much smaller, better-compressed file that uses some awesome lossy format like H.264. (There are probably a lot of free conversion tools; SUPER is the first acceptably good one I was able to find.)

WraithLord January 1st, 2010 05:47 PM

Re: Mega-Dueling Tournament - Rules, Settings, Check List, and Sign Ups
 
Yeah, I also tend to agree with MB. According to my one game only experience playing with you (Artifacts) I think that one of your major strengths is super optimal openings. Then add to that the pure awesomness of being probably the topmost dominions strategy expert. And last, I have 0 blitz experience and my skill set is probably heavily based on regular dominions MP - So yeah, I think you have an advantage here :)
That said, I'm certain that it would indeed be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Naturaly, the final outcome will probably also be effected by (in game) luck and our nation picks (some nations have rock, scisor, paper relations).
Also, whether or not the nations we've picked be public knowledge will make a big difference.

AoE, Baalz, Thanks for your approval for posting video captures.

LDiCesare, thanks for the tip. I D/Led camstudio and already captured my first battle. It's making it way slowly to my you tube channel :)


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