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rextorres February 14th, 2003 06:10 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Krsqk:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">(i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROFLOL!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

That's great! I think I'll print this and post it on the bulletin board at work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Everyone acts as if it were a self-evident truth that the mass media are liberally biased. Where are those liberal TV channels? Could I please sign up for them? All I get on my cable system are center-right channels such as CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and far-right channels such as the "we distort, you deride", Fox News, owned by equally far-right media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, and assorted christian nutball channels such as the Trinity Broadcasting Network or Pat Robertson's The 700 Club, carried by Fox Family.

rextorres February 14th, 2003 06:21 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Krsqk:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">(i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROFLOL!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

That's great! I think I'll print this and post it on the bulletin board at work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously, though, bringing up Fox doesn't make CNN unbiased any more than bringing up Ari Fleischer makes George Stephanopolous unbiased. Everyone has a bias. Denying that the (vast) majority of mainstream journalists, editors, and reporters hold liberal viewpoints contradicts their own statements. Denying that one's viewpoints color one's reporting is overly optimistic. Overlooking liberal bias in the media while jumping all over Fox News for conservative bias is...umm...*searches for non-inflammatory words*...inconsistent.

(Wow! I think it's an entire post without a single inflammatory remark! Do I get a prize? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah your right lets go through the list of all those liberals in the media:

Sean Hannity - he's a progressive christian who likes to speak his mind.
Chris Matthews - he's a left leaning liberal
CNN Pundit Pat Buchanan - he's liberal because all those Jews in Florida voted for him.
MSNBC pundit Alan Keyes - he must be liberal because he's black
Bill O'Reilly - he's a left wing muckraker
Wolf Blitzer - he's a crypto leftist
Rob Novak - he's a champion of the poor
Tony Snow - always asks Republicans the tough questions
Tim Russert - Never lets Republicans off the hook
Brit Hume - always fair and balanced

EDIT: Oh yeah how could I forget:

Rush Limbaugh - the head of Extreme Left talk radio

[ February 14, 2003, 04:28: Message edited by: rextorres ]

Grandpa Kim February 14th, 2003 07:01 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Omega_Prime:
The problem with anarchy is, that by deffinition, there would be no way to enforce it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You forgot to put in the ROFL!

The more I think about that statement the funnier it is. ROFLMAO

Grandpa Kim February 14th, 2003 07:25 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
[quote]Originally posted by Greybeard:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by rextorres:
[QB]
Quote:

(i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source). QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't believe that anyone thinks that CNN isn't an extremely liberal source, except maybe an extreme liberal...Greybeard
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't believe anyone believes the media! I doubt those self-serving morons could find their *** with both hands. Giving an accurate account of an event is waaaay beyond their means.

Baron Munchausen February 14th, 2003 08:41 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rextorres:
Everyone acts as if it were a self-evident truth that the mass media are liberally biased. Where are those liberal TV channels? Could I please sign up for them? All I get on my cable system are center-right channels such as CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and far-right channels such as the "we distort, you deride", Fox News, owned by equally far-right media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, and assorted christian nutball channels such as the Trinity Broadcasting Network or Pat Robertson's The 700 Club, carried by Fox Family.[/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heh... every time I see Fox News (which is when visiting someone else, I don't own a TV and would not pay for cable...) I keep expecting Robocop to resume any second. I wonder if they realize that they sound just like the news spoofs in Robocop?

But yes, I am also really baffled at the hue and cry about 'liberal media' carried by the media in this country. They're all butt-kissing toadies who wouldn't dare to challenge a thing the government Propo^H^H^H^H^H 'Press Secretaries' or 'Spokesmen' or whatever title they have today want to feed them.

I listen to NPR (only slightly less cowardly than the commercial networks) and the BBC when possible. BBC is an odd case. At least they aren't beholden to the US government, but they still seem to be a bit blinkered.

Askan Nightbringer February 14th, 2003 09:07 AM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
I think I've said this before but...

Commercial Media relies on advertising revenue to exist. This means they cannot offend their advertisers, who are mainly corporations that rarely have left wing views.
The media companies will hire editors/producers/journalists to complement the generation of advertising revenue, not to jeopardise it. They will occasionally run something that is more "left opinionated" but its usually accompanied but a "balancing" article. This is to push the mythology of the "quest for the truth" that media once may have been. There is nothing more detrimental to a news source than nobody watching/reading/listening because it is obviously biased, because nobody will advertise if nobody is seeing it.

Askan

tesco samoa February 14th, 2003 06:13 PM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
Quote "If the U.S. economy was to collapse that would hurt almost if not all countries on the globe. The only countries that would not be effected would be countries that had no dependence on U.S. imports/exports, no stock in U.S. companies, no U.S. stockholders(people/corporations), receives no type of U.S. aid and no financial/political relations with any country that did. Which country is that? "

You missed the key word of my post. Which was Survive.

metro637 February 14th, 2003 08:14 PM

Re: [OT] Nation bashing
 
All apologies. I see we are both in America. The point is that in most cases no government/people can be held to responsible for another nation's problems. Of course there the exception's like the Opium War when Britain for addictive drugs on the Chinese.


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