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Slynky April 23rd, 2003 02:48 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
A ship can be gifted and the crew go with it.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A good point that goes well with what Lord Chane said. (saying that without getting into how different races would integrate in a fleet atmosphere given various forms of communications, predlections toward battle, and other things I won't spend a lot of time listing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

However, for our puposes, we don't have to worry about it since we've agreed it can't be done in this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Gryphin April 23rd, 2003 03:12 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Ok
Slynky and Geo
I'm working on the map.
what is the consensous on the number of systems?

My current understanding for the spread of players is about as many systems behind each team as there are between each teach.

At the moment it is a matter of deleting systems and placeing players.

The step after that will be setting up the game at PBW. I may need some coaching with this part.

Slynky April 23rd, 2003 03:18 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Ok
Slynky and Geo
I'm working on the map.
what is the consensous on the number of systems?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd say 100 at least, if that yields, on average, 60 "populated" systems.

As to placement, 25% of the space behind each team with at least 50% of the area free between them. It could vary, too, for example, I'd say 20% space behind each team (leaving 60% space between them). But never let the space between them get less than 50% of the map.

Geo may have some other idea, sooo....

narf poit chez BOOM April 23rd, 2003 03:22 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
lord chane, i'm already using a variant of that picture for my cantina avatar, but when i'm done with it people should be able to tell them apart. since i'm not using it all the time, i can't claim that picture either, so it all comes down to wether or not you think people will mistake you for cantina narf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo April 23rd, 2003 04:17 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
My ten figure was just pulled out of ether. Someone made a comment earliewr they wanted this to be a fast paced game. I thought that meant fewer rather than more systems. However, I was not thinking about he fact that we'd all be rock/oxy and was assuming shared systems between allies. If we are all teh same type though maybe more would be a better number. Fyron Paradise systems have a lot of planets. 10 systems there is like 30 in a standard game.

Gryphin, there is no way to specify the location of anythign but the first planet in a multi planet start.

Geoschmo

Gryphin April 23rd, 2003 04:32 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Thanks geo. I put the map and the wine for tonight. Pooh Star is sending me to bed.
enjoy the night folks

Slynky April 23rd, 2003 04:35 AM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
My ten figure was just pulled out of ether. Someone made a comment earliewr they wanted this to be a fast paced game. I thought that meant fewer rather than more systems. However, I was not thinking about he fact that we'd all be rock/oxy and was assuming shared systems between allies.

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, it was me wanting a fast-paced game ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ). Guess I'm tired of the current 2 games I'm in where play seems a bit more leisurely. But fast-paced didn't necessarily mean short in duration.

Also, not sure what you mean by "was assuming shared systems between allies", but I still assume that. Meaning if a system is between two allies and one person colonizes one planet in it and another colonizes another planet in the same system, that's fine. Just not gifting colonies back and forth.

Fyron April 23rd, 2003 06:06 AM

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Also, not sure what you mean by "was assuming shared systems between allies",
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He probably meant that the different allies would normally have different planet types and atmospheres, and so would potentially split their systems to optimize their useage (esp. if no gifting of pop is allowed). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Lord Chane April 23rd, 2003 12:45 PM

Re: Challenge Match
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Setting aside that SEIV is science ficiton, the Challenge Match has stipulated everyone is Oxygen Rock. Just a wine driven though, what are the chances of that unless they were all from the same origens anyway.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I see your point and I noted in my message that my example was extreme. That said, it seems entirely possible to me that two rock/oxy planets could still spawn wildly different life forms. For example, a huge planet, say a two or three times the size of Earth might well have higher gravity. In fact it's pretty much certain that it would. Any life form that came out of that environment would be likely be a bit different, don't you think? Assuming the ships have artificial gravity and that the denizens of this planet like the feel of "normal" gravity, then such a ship wouldn't work so well for a native of a standard Terran sized planet, or, worse, a smaller, lower gravity planet. And just because someone is a native of a rock/oxy planet doesn't have to mean they're a land dweller. Fish consume oxygen too, but they don't breath it like we do. And even if we were to dismiss those arguments I think there's still a compelling case to be made based on size alone. Who's to say that the humanoid race of one rock/oxy planet isn't normal sized and the other a bit small? A ship built for a race with an average height of say 4' would be mighty uncomfortable for a race with an average height of say 6'. But this is really all academic. I'd already said I didn't care, I was just making a philosophical point. I realize the game isn't intended to be realistic.

Lord Chane April 23rd, 2003 12:48 PM

Re: Challenge Match
 
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
lord chane, i'm already using a variant of that picture for my cantina avatar, but when i'm done with it people should be able to tell them apart. since i'm not using it all the time, i can't claim that picture either, so it all comes down to wether or not you think people will mistake you for cantina narf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Narf, may I call you Narf? You've been in the forums longer than I have so I'll change if you like. Otherwise, if you've no objection, then I'll keep using it for now. No, I'm not worried about being mistaken for "cantina narf". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif


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