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Slynky January 5th, 2004 12:57 AM

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Site updated:

1 game completed.

Nodachi January 5th, 2004 01:04 AM

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Hey Slynky, my game with Simplify isn't listed. Oversight? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky January 5th, 2004 01:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Nodachi:
Hey Slynky, my game with Simplify isn't listed. Oversight? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, BIG oversight since I created the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif ! Let me fix it right away.

Just so ya know...I sometimes miss games but I don't mess up rating computations.

Nodachi January 5th, 2004 01:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky
Yes, BIG oversight since I created the game
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I wasn't going to point that out... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky January 5th, 2004 01:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Nodachi:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> Originally posted by Slynky
Yes, BIG oversight since I created the game

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I wasn't going to point that out... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'll remember your consideration in the future (well, not in a game, mind you) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

She's up there now. Good luck!

Baron Grazic January 6th, 2004 12:00 PM

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Bash Round 2 game - Asmala has defeated me.
Looks like my rating is starting to slip down to where it should be.

Slynky January 6th, 2004 03:34 PM

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I'll post them tonight. Seems like there is a KOTH game ended, too. I'll have to check.

geoschmo January 7th, 2004 02:55 AM

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Slynky,

1 game ended:
Rating Bash - Asmala vs Baron Grazic
Asmala won

2 new games:
Ratings Bash - Asmala vs RexTorres
Ratings Bash - Slynky vs Baron Grazic

Thanks.

Slynky January 7th, 2004 03:49 AM

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Site updated:

4 games completed
3 games added

Please make sure I missed nothing of yours.

geoschmo January 7th, 2004 06:06 AM

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I missed a couple.

New game:
Ratings Bash - Steal Dragon vs Alneyan.

I see you already updated the game between Georgig and Alneyan.

Slynky January 7th, 2004 04:13 PM

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Also, there was a second person who wanted the Great Experiment 3" to be rated. But I can't find the info. A little help, please.

Alneyan January 7th, 2004 04:44 PM

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I guess I should not ask such things in mails dedicated to our team game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I asked to be rated in this game, but I don't know who else wanted to be rated.

Slynky January 7th, 2004 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
I guess I should not ask such things in mails dedicated to our team game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I asked to be rated in this game, but I don't know who else wanted to be rated.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm confused http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif (not a new thing, mind you). What game are you referring to?

Alneyan January 7th, 2004 05:03 PM

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Well, I asked to be rated in the Great Experiment game. However, I asked this query in a mail where we were discussing strategy in the Ratings team game. Don't ask. (Hopefully, it will be clear. Hopefully.)

Slynky January 7th, 2004 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Alneyan:
Well, I asked to be rated in the Great Experiment game. However, I asked this query in a mail where we were discussing strategy in the Ratings team game. Don't ask. (Hopefully, it will be clear. Hopefully.)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Then YOU are the one I was asking about. I'll pop you in tonight. BTW, the other is already listed: Gandalph.

Slynky January 8th, 2004 01:59 AM

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Site updated:

2 games added

Slynky January 8th, 2004 02:01 AM

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Yeah, Alneyan notified me in email of the finish.

I'll update the site when I get home tonight.

Baron Grazic January 8th, 2004 02:25 AM

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Don't forget 1 game fished =
SE4 Rated Challenge: Junkyard with victory going to myself over Nodachi

Asmala January 8th, 2004 01:18 PM

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How the games with more than two rated players are rated?

Slynky January 8th, 2004 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Don't forget 1 game fished =
SE4 Rated Challenge: Junkyard with victory going to myself over Nodachi

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I beleive that happened right after I finished the site (wouldn't you know it!) so I planned to update it tonight.

Slynky January 8th, 2004 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
How the games with more than two rated players are rated?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I beleive the answer is waaaaay down in the thread here (on what we finally decided). I've been "slow" to post it on the site since a game hasn't finished yet.

Nodachi January 8th, 2004 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Orinally posted by Slynky
quote:
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Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Don't forget 1 game fished =
SE4 Rated Challenge: Junkyard with victory going to myself over Nodachi
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I beleive that happened right after I finished the site (wouldn't you know it!) so I planned to update it tonight.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, that might be my fault, Baron. I forgot to follow procedure and send an e-mail reporting my loss. I was merrily posting it in the RC thread and forgot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

Slynky January 9th, 2004 01:19 AM

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Site updated:

1 game completed

Grandpa Kim January 9th, 2004 03:21 AM

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Looks like Slynky is the first to pass the 1100 plateau. Congrats! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Unfortunately for him, now begins the "Let's Get Slynky Campaign". We cannot allow this impertinence to continue! He will never let us forget he is the high exalted one and we are just rubes!

Let's stop him now, before it's too late!

... Hey! Doesn't he do the calculations himself. Not that I'm the suspicious sort... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky January 9th, 2004 03:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Looks like Slynky is the first to pass the 1100 plateau. Congrats! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Unfortunately for him, now begins the "Let's Get Slynky Campaign". We cannot allow this impertinence to continue! He will never let us forget he is the high exalted one and we are just rubes!

Let's stop him now, before it's too late!

... Hey! Doesn't he do the calculations himself. Not that I'm the suspicious sort... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just haven't had my share of unbeatable opponents. One of the good things about KOTH and the "Bash", it puts you up against them. But a few below me are undefeated in the system.

geoschmo January 9th, 2004 04:22 AM

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Put me down as being rated in the Great Experiment 3 game please Slynky.

Slynky January 10th, 2004 01:19 AM

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Site updated:

1 game added
1 person added to Experiment 3

Slynky January 10th, 2004 02:39 AM

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(I know you're getting tired of this but...)

Gotcha. I'll post it when I get home from work tonight.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

geoschmo January 15th, 2004 12:38 AM

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More updates Slynky. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Two games ended:
Rating Bash - Bbegemott vs Joachim
Bbegmott won

Ratings Bash - Primitive vs Gozguy
Primitive won

Two new games:
Ratings Bash - Primitive vs Gecko
Ratings Bash - Tesco Samoa vs Gozguy

Thank you.

Slynky January 15th, 2004 01:17 AM

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Thanks, Geo.

Before I update the site, I'm having a bit of a problem.

I have a message from Taikon before his KOTH game started saying he wanted to be in the rating system. The KOTH game (with Gecko) started on the 31st. I'm having trouble finding any notification that it was to be a rated game. I can't find it in my mail system nor can I find a message in the forum. So, someone will need to help me out a bit.

This points out the need to email me with information so I don't spend time looking around for it. Of course... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ...if this game was NOT a rated game, then I looked for no reason and, of course I found nothing.

Slynky January 15th, 2004 03:23 AM

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Site updated:

3 games completed
4 games added

(please review to make sure I didn't miss anything)

Slynky January 15th, 2004 03:24 AM

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New member added.

Welcome to the Ratings madness, 1FSTCAT!

geoschmo January 15th, 2004 01:22 PM

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Slynky, rules question.

In a multiplayer game in which not everybody is rated, ie Great Experiment 3, how do you handle it if a rated player combines with one or more non-rated players and achieves a "team victory"?

The way I am guessing is that as long as he is the Last rated player standing, it doesn't matter if he is teamed with non-rated players since they aren't considered for Ratings purposes anyway. Am I correct about that?

And if two rated players team up they will have to eventually fight it out, or at least declare one of them the victor at the end, right? No team victories between rated players? Or have you added some sort of formula for that that isn't listed in the rules.

Geoschmo

Slynky January 15th, 2004 03:08 PM

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I'd agree with what you have said below, Geo.

For example, there is a Pairs game afoot. Whichever pair wins, there will still have to be a single rated player to be declared the winner. I don't really care if they fight it out or one looks at the other and says, "Well, you are obviously the strongest of us two...I'm not going to waste my time trying to fight you...you win over all."

And in the first example, when we say, "Last Man Standing", we really mean Last RATED man standing. I don't care if he came in 5th place. For rating purposes, if there were 3 other rated players who went out of the game before him, he "won" as far as Ratings goes.

So, does it look like we are on the same sheet of music?

geoschmo January 15th, 2004 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:

So, does it look like we are on the same sheet of music?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep, seems reasonable and logical to me.

Slynky January 16th, 2004 12:18 AM

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We have another new member: Welcome to the Ratings system, Warlord Ragnarok!

[edit] That brings the total to 40. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ January 15, 2004, 22:20: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Ragnarok January 16th, 2004 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
We have another new member: Welcome to the Ratings system, Warlord Ragnarok!

[edit] That brings the total to 40. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why thank you, thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

*Stands up*
I am Ragnarok, and I am addicted to PBW and need other ways to fill my urge to play as much as possible. This was my choice and I look forward to getting my arse whooped.
*Sits down*

Slynky January 16th, 2004 03:40 PM

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(psssst..., hey, Rags, the 12-step program is located in another thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Ragnarok January 16th, 2004 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
(psssst..., hey, Rags, the 12-step program is located in another thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think it's too late for that myself, Slynky. I'm on step 15 of the 12 step program and I still haven't made any progress. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky January 16th, 2004 10:18 PM

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Site updated:

3 games completed
1 player added to the Great Experiment 3

Slynky January 17th, 2004 03:19 PM

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Site updated:

1 game added

Slynky January 18th, 2004 04:44 AM

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Site updated:

1 game added

Slynky January 19th, 2004 03:38 PM

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Site updated:

1 game completed
1 game added

Slynky January 21st, 2004 02:33 AM

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Site updated:

1 game completed
2 games added

1 donor added

[ January 21, 2004, 00:33: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Joachim January 21st, 2004 02:51 AM

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Thanks Slynky for all the work you are doing on the Ratings.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It is contributions like yours that make the SEIV community great.

Slynky January 21st, 2004 04:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Joachim:
Thanks Slynky for all the work you are doing on the Ratings.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It is contributions like yours that make the SEIV community great.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Now now, don't start trying to butter me up...you KNOW I'm gonna get you in "Biters"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Tks, though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Baron Grazic January 21st, 2004 05:10 AM

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At the moment, luck of starting positions within the map can effect the outcome of a game and effect the Ratings.
In future games would anyone be willing to using a custom map that gives both competitors 'exactly' the same start, same number of planets at the same distance from their home world, etc?
I've designed a small map layout (only system and warp points so far, no planets) that could be used for this purpose, but I don't want to waste my time if no-one will use it.
Continue or not?

geoschmo January 21st, 2004 05:37 AM

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I think it will get used Baron. Probably not exclusivly or anything, people would get tired of it. But someone would used it probaly a few time at least. The UCT tourney had a map like that.

Paul1980au January 21st, 2004 05:41 AM

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This would be helpful and could be put up for others to download - perhaps if you encouraged others to use it give feedback and discussion with some effort you could get it into wider circulation.

Baron Grazic January 22nd, 2004 01:45 AM

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I have created a map designed for Koth type games where both players have exactly the same start.
I have created it specifically for Rock None empires.
Below is the stats for the map. The starting planets are in the centre of enter side.
http://clients.net2000.com.au/~xanthea/identical.jpg

The map can be located at PBW in the map sector or here

It is free to use or change if anyone wants. Let me know if anyone has any suggests.
Thanks.
Baron Grazic


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