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Hey everybody, attack Ragnarok!! He's only got 80 colonies!! Even I have almost all my planets colonized!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif For bases, I'm well over 100. And now for my request: Does anybody know a better way to use those pesky planets that have about 20% of each resource? So far I've been putting a Space Yard, Atmospheric Mod Plant, and then Monoliths. But is there something better to put on those planets?? It just seems to be a bit of a waste of space for very little return. And no, I don't need any more fleet/ship training centers, mineral scanners/system mineral scanners, or storage. And that brings up another question http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif About how much would be a good amount of resources to have in storage. Right now I have about 1 million minerals, and about 500K for the organics and rads. Is that about right, or not enough?? Thanks a lot for helping me out here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif I owe you guys! |
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store what you cannot spend. If you cannot spend it build more base yards... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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And those planets with 5 facility slots, put on them Value Improvement facilities(improve value of planet 3% each year) and also Atmosphere Modification Plants this will change the atmosphere to one that is breathable over 2 years and then you will have 20+ facility spaces. That is the main reason I am so far behind in resource production right now, because I haven't built too many monoliths or anything yet. I am focusing on getting the climent control centers and atmosphere modification plants going to enable more resources when they finally come Online. But rest assure I will catch up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [ May 12, 2004, 17:36: Message edited by: Ragnarok ] |
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that would be value improvement
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If you have forgotten Advanced Storage, that would explain a bit too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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If you have forgotten Advanced Storage, that would explain a bit too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is one of the benefits of religious trait. You only need one nature shrine in system and all your planets' conditions and values are improved. Without it you have to sacrifice one slot on every planet to build value improvement plant. |
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I think I included just about every other trait you can think of though. Well, almost anyways... Karibu, yes Religious will come in handy for that one matter. It has been really hard not to design and build ships with the talisman but I will be able to pull through. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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I just finished converting my first atmosphere (in this game). Is anyone else in the conveted-atmosphere cool club?
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Edit: And probably within the next 5 turns I will have 10 more or so completed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif [ May 14, 2004, 15:19: Message edited by: Ragnarok ] |
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I have been using the fill queue function and giving this particular little queue to something close to 120 planets (for those not playing, all planets are huge). - Temporal Shipyard - Atmospheric converter - Value improvement - 3 x Monolith - 1 x BSY - 2 x Nice Baseship If I don't ship too much population to the planet it will convert the turn the second baseship is ready. Based on the number of baseships I'm getting I guess I will be very busy the next year or so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Building those atmospheric mod. plants with a temporal spaceyard has got to be wicked expensive. The evil things cost 15k of each resource!
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Spoo:
It's expensive, but I have colonized at a bit slower speed than normal so not every planet needed max resources at the same time. I still have a few planets left to colonize and apply the queue too. Still, resources have been sparse and I have been very close to zero a few times. I have just managed to let the planets build at max speed, but I have had to leave my BSY's idle more than once. Also been lucky with a few good value breathables, and been very carefull to get all the +45 % system facilities up early. Karibu: I can build them. Maintaining them is another matter so most have been mothballed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Well, he is Primitive after all, and he isn't called "Steamroller" for nothing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Don't ask how he manages to expand this fast, but he does. *Mutters something about a certain KOTH game, and frets at the idea of playing a full-tech game with Primitive around*
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hehe, through human history, primitive people have had difficulties dealing with civilized concepts like Spoo(n), but they tend to understand what to do with cariboes on sight them *seeking hiding place*. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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schrrrt... schrrrt... schrrrt... schrrrt...
(The sound of the primitive one sharpening his skinning knife) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Did some math http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . This game is going to break some records (hopefully we don't break PBW first (again!)).
First a recap for those who don't play. - Full tech, no intel, no talisman, 5000 points - Each player start with a closed off cluster. Need to use stellar to make contact. - Cluster is 13 systems each with 14 huge planets + 10 large Homeworlds. Then some numbers: - Without Ring/Sphereworlds (but with AS) thats a cool 5710 facility slots when converted. - Fully developed gives 5000 + slots for Monoliths and Minerals miners. - With average bonuses (including Jubilant) and all systems facilities up thats easily 10 Million Minerals + a lot of org'n'rads. So; Question is when (and if) we can get the cluster fully developed before the wars start, and what to do with 10 Million + Minerals: - 192 Temporal Yards at full speed can only use 2 Mill. - On average, maintanance for a 1000 ships fleet would be 2 Mill. - 1000 BSYs on full speed is 2,5 Mill Hmmmm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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I bet we break PBW before we get any serious conflicts on the way. Like, fleets of 1000 ships will be only scouting party and way to break someone's defences will require about all available ships (10000+) in one fleet. That will be serious test for server to calculate the outcome.
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i have my turn ready, but pbw is down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
i hope i'll catch it before the turn goes |
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SOunds like you need to ask for some donations to upgrade the PBW server to cope with incresaed turn processing needs - once SE5 is out that might be a priority.
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We don't even know if something like PBW will be compatible with SEV. Hopefully, but we can't assume anything until we see what MM has in store for us! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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PBW server has the game size file increased above the 1 meg limit now. So it can handle the game for quite awhile.
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geez, geo's site is still down
i fixed it Last time for him, he had a corrupt mysql table... i checked it today, but no tables were corrupt, reboots/critical updates applied failed to fix it... im not a tomcat expert, so i really dont know what to look for with these failures just thought id update the gang... dont know what you'd all like to do? run manual for a while? i can email my turn if u want http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif |
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civol did you get the error message. it looks like the pool is not starting which is causing the crap out.
if anyone has some good experience with tomcat fire me an email at simon.baxendale at eds.com I will send the error message. |
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we've been waiting for a few days now just for rags turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
rags - whats up? |
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Yeah, we wanna play! Are we there yet?
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Sorry about that. I posted Last week that I would be gone for a week and not able to play my turns in another thread. I guess I should have posted here as well. I thought auto turns would keep going and not slow the game down any but I guess with the PBW crash Geo still hasn't turned on auto turns yet. I do apologize and we will continue our course now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Rags...
whats up d00d? you haven't played your turn in like 6 days now;) |
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Good to have you back. However, we are not in a hurry, for this game will propably take few years. Btw, what is the longest PBW game ever? How many turns and how long in real life it has Lasted?
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damn i missed another turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
geo's site was down when i tried to upload my turn, and now its past again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (i know i missed 2 turns before this, but i really didn't want to miss this one) is it unreasonable to ask for the turn over since geo's site was down? |
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That turn was due long before PBW went down Cirvol and most of us has already done the next turn. I vote play on.
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I have no opinion one way or the other.
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I'd rather not have to redo a turn. However, I'm not opposed to extending the turn deadline past 48hr for future turns (even though I voted to keep it the same).
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Yes. ALPU is disabled. I read from another thread that automatic turns do not work atm, so turn must be made manually. I recall Ragnarok send email to all of us that he will execute turns manually atm.
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yes he sent an email out the day before warning everyone that the turn would kick off.
Ciirvol. It is better to ask for an extension before the dead line than to seek a rollback. I do not mind rolling back if it was do to corrupt player file or site failure. The turn was kicked off an hour after the deadline. To me it does not matter if we roll the turn back. |
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yeah, its ok http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif nothing too critical lost, just a few empty spaceyard queues http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
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So hows everyone doing??
Me, I have atmosphere's converting, base ships building, resources flowing into my coffers, space yards constructing, etc etc. No contact with anyone yet, but that might change soon...if I decide to open that warp point I was contemplating....would a couple hundred fully trained dreads be enough to hold back any force that tried to invade?? How about you guys? |
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try for atleast 1600 baseships for a holding action... ( well that will be the numbers in about 40 turns )
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Are you serious??!!?? 1600???!!! Holy 5h!t!!
Well, uh, I'm not quite there, but uh, maybe sometime relatively soon...I really need to construct a few more construction bases...and everything!! |
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Not everything said in a game's thread can be trusted...
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I know Narf. From what I can figure out, it is logistically impossible to have 1600 baseships in another 40 turns. The average baseship takes about ~10 to 14 turns to build on a orbital construction spaceyard. And that's with enhanced construction capabilities. With all the colonizing that had to take place quickly, and the construction of resource extraction facilities on colonies, etc, no one would have the resources right now to support anywhere near 1600 baseships, even in another 40 turns.
I bet no one has over 350 war ships at this moment. |
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I don't think Tesco's estimate is unreasonable. I know my production capability is growing exponentially. Too bad resources only increase linearly.
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Last game i lost like 1400 base ships in 3 turns... and had another 1200 to back them up... and i was in 3rd...
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Well Renegade. You are both right and wrong http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
The Horde certainly has more than 350 warships, but as maintenance is a problem at the moment, most go straight into mothball. In 40 turns though, it will be another matter. The Atmospheric converters are kicking in at an increasing rate, giving room for more resource production, and at the same time lowering the SY capacity. I’m working hard at the moment to get enough orbital SY’s up to take in the slack. In 40 more turns the clusters should be very close to fully developed (unless the wars start http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) and mineral production would be getting close to the 10 mill mark. Should be able to have a helluvalot more than 1600 ships by then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif |
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Dream on Rags http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I'll just scrap them the hard way. BTW: Whats the location of yor cluster ? |
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