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Nah, I probably just mixed it together with some other llamaserver game with strange animal name I'm meant to be subbing. Oh, there it is Chupacabra. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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They're completely different animals! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think I already sent you a PM about Chupacabra - in fact I definitely did, cos you told me to use a different e-mail address. You can always ask it to resend a turn if you haven't got it.

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Thanks for informing me Lama, but all is well now and I'm in the game and playing.

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After some stuttering earlier this week the monitor of my computer finally gave up the battle and went to join the spirits of his forefathers. I'm getting a new one this weekend, so if at all possible I'd appreciate a 48h extension to be able to do my turn. If not I'll have to stale this one.

I hereby extend an invitation to everyone intrested to come to my place for the ritual burning of all the goblins inhabiting my computer, and everyone is welcome to bring along their own nasty goblins so we can have a nice, big and untasty barbecue.

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Oh ho I have a goblin in my cd writer drive, the drive died but its still just alive enough to hang my computer 50% of the time when booting up. If I can get him out I will enjoy seeing him burn... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

PM Valerius btw about the 48hr extension, we are all very chilled and relaxed here so I am sure it won't be a problem.

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No problem; hosting has been postponed until 23:36 GMT Sunday.

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NIce, I was about to stale as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Obviously I faked my computer problems just to help you out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I also have to say public libraries are wonderful things, a fact which I especially rediscover every time I have trouple accessing the net from home. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I'm going to need some more time to complete my turn so I've delayed hosting by 13 hours.

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I'm sorry to be a bother again, but how would you guys feel about another delay in the game, till friday afternoon/evening if possible? It's not that I'm absolutely unable to play, so if people prefer not to delay I'll be able to turn something in, but I am feeling a bit pressured lately, with little time off, and playing dominions is becoming something of a chore, which is a shame for such an amazing game. (not that I'm sucking up to Kristoffer in the hope he supports my proposal or anything. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif ) I have the day off work on friday, so an extension would allow me to relax a bit this week, and then play my turn at ease on friday. (and then the next one over the weekend)

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I would like at least a 24 hr delay as well, my day off is Thursday... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Btw is anyone really bothered about winning the game? A strange question, but I just play for the fun of it.

I was saving this as a surprise but if our western alliance of myself, Pangaea and Atlantis defeats Ctis, I was going to offer Valerius or Aethyr the oppourtunity of taking the solo win, ie...step aside.

Do not take this as any doubt about my stamina to keep playing! I have done most of my turn already, any extra is just additional micro.

This game now eats 3+hrs of my time (I do it in bits, more fun) and I would prefer to devote that to new games. The first 50 turns or so are my favourite part of the game.

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Amhazair, of course I will delay hosting. I'll postpone it two days, to 23:25 GMT Friday. Let me know if you need more time.

Meglobob, I agree the first 50 turns are the most fun. As far as winning goes I was going to give it a shot but C'tis has outfight Atlantis and myself and I think my opportunity to catch up to you has passed.

It's kind of you to offer Atlantis or myself the win but you've been the strongest ally all along and you would deserve the win. Practically speaking, even if Atlantis and I both fought you I don't think we could win.

Amhazair and Meglobob, the two of you have played the best game and I think one or both of you deserve the victory.

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Although a late-comer to this game (and a noob to boot!) I would certainly concur.

It has been quite a learning (humbling really) experience, and a real honor to play with you all.

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Thanks guys, you have both been great allies!

At the moment, either myself (Caelum), Pangaea and Atlantis will defeat Ctis and then declare one of us winner or Ctis will defeat the 3 of us and win.

That will probably take another 40 turns and, 'solid turns' of effort to force the win. Probably looking at about enough, 'real life hours' to equal the 80 odd turns we have already played.

Do we want to play it out?

What do you think Amhazair?

Sometimes, I think its better to call a game then let it 'fizzle' out or the turns become a 'chore'.

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Well, I have to say you're putting up one hell of a fight. You're bleeding me for every inch of ground you give up. It's been fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

No need to sell yourself short. While I have indeed been able to deal with everything you sent into my lands, you've certainly made me think twice about taking you on in the water, even the little inland seas that used to be mine.

Well, even though I'm the one most often requesting extensions, I think we should wait at least a few turns before pulling the plug. Playing a few more turns will probably show wether you're right and I'm as closely matched with your qualiotion as you think I am. Personally, I'm not convinced that is the case. This war against Pangaea and Atlantis is taking a lot of resources, and now that you have decided to join in the fun I might be heading towards my doom. In a couple of turns we might be able to clearly see that the three of you will beat me in the end, in which case we have a clear win(ning coalition) - and thus a more satisfying ending, especially for the winners of course. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif If it turns out that things are indeed very close and no side holds the upper hand, well we can still talk about ending it then.

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Ok fair enough, lets play a few more turns.

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Sorry guys, despite the extra time I'm afraid I'll need to delay hosting for a few hours.

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Ouch. That hurt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

I had expected to take horrendous losses, and loosing was a definite possibility, but I sure didn't count on such a one-sided massacre. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Just to let everyone know, I have requested a 24hr extension this turn! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Ey, Bob! Don't do that without anouncing your intent first. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If you really didn't want to play on anymore, I for my part would have settled for finishing it and calling it a draw. (Don't know if the others would prefer/have prefered to play on) I just didn't realise, from the way you phrased things, that you were this close to calling it quits.

Often, when a war starts, you can see after the first few turns how it will turn out, and I wanted to give you and your allies the chance to claim the win, and concede if things went badly in the first 3-4 turns. And, if things didn't go badly for me in those first 3-4 turns, we could still have ended it at that point if people prefered it that way - In the knowledge that a quick resolution was unlikely and that a draw was a roughly fair reflection of our strengths.

Now, since apparently your mind was already elsewhere after all, what do you guys (Valerius/Aethyr especially)want to do? Call it a day, split the pie, and drink a round of beers in brotherhood? Or play on with a radically changed situation, in what essentially would be a different game? Either suits me fine.

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Tried to do my turn a couple of times but my empire was just too big, so give up in the end.

It was all the scripting I would after do, to compete against your tartarians/fire kings... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

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Aethyr and I have talked it over and we feel the two of you have played the best. If we did continue playing I don't think Atlantis and Pangaea could stop C'tis.

So that means either a win for C'tis or a combined C'tis/Caelum win if the two of you decided to do that.

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I effectively conceded when I went AI.

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Then I think we can declare C'tis the winner. Congratulations, Amhazair - very well played game. It was an educational experience fighting you (mostly a losing experience, but educational). Well, at least I had one victory (albeit with castle walls to hide behind and my pretender to help out). Out of curiosity, were you surprised with the master enslave? I figured you knew I had an oracle but I wasn't sure if you thought it had high enough astral for that. I also have to say I thought you'd be more inconvenienced with my stealing GoH and the Chalice then you turned out to be. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Aethyr and Meglobob, you were great allies - it was fun working together. Good game, everyone.

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Amhazair, I'd like to add my congratulations as well. Trying to survive agianst you has actually helped me sharpen my game play in my other games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Thanks for the education.

Valerius/Meglobob, it was great working with you. Thanks everyone for a great game.

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I had tons of fun in this game myself too. I've been at war with one nation or another without stop from turn 6 or so. (hey, we knew it was a crowded map when we started out) I had my first experience of facing a water nation on equal terms (R'lyeh), and for the first time ever I managed to dominionkill someone (Arco). I also seriously liked the swampy background flavor - and playing style - of MA C'tis (I hadn't played them before) and also had fun dealing with it's funky dominion. (Good call on the design Kristoffer, it forces you into some thinking that's unique to the nation) Then of course there was the seriously schizophrenic thread talk by the confused nation of Mictlan to lighten up ones' day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And with all of that it was still only midgame.

Valerius, you're not the only one who found our war educational. With all your different earthquakes, bloodlettings, wrathfull skies and master enslaves you managed to cause horendous losses on my numerically superior and magically diverse armies. I felt I had to pay a terrible price for each yard of blooddrenched ground I gained. And I was definitely seriously inconvenienced by loosing GoH and the Chalice. I cursed a lot at loosing them, and I lost a lot of options because of it. Oh, and I did not expect the master enslave, otherwise I would not have dared enter your castle. In fact, I went in without scouting it out first somewhat against my better judgement, because in between Caelum just having declared war, and your three assesins killing of some of my best mages I didn't feel I had the luxury of wasting time. That was one gamble that seriously didn't pay off though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Aethyr: I'm glad you enjoyed the education. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I remember actually reaching endgame in my first MP game in a strong position, and then suddenly being hit by veteran Calmon in the clash to win the game. It felt like being run over by a truck... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

Kristoffer: It's been really fun to see you taking part in forum stuff so much over the summer. Two of the friends I talked to about this game went to download the demo just because 'wow, the developper actually talks to you and plays with you?' Unfortunately this isn't the kind of game that will appeal to them, but still, the point remains. Good luck surviving work now that you've returned to it.

Meglobob: Damn you. Since the moment I started realising that Pangaea and Atlantis were going to cost me lots of time, effort, and resources to beat - and thus started to expect you to win this game - I've been looking forward to congratulating you on your win, and then being able to add: 'but now you can't go around telling people how I allways beat you anymore' But now you've cheated me out of that pleasure too! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Hi all!

Thanks for a good game! As previous posters said: it has been quite educational. Also it has been a lot of fun!

I would like to thank Meglobob and davegg for their educational efforts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think I should sign up for a new game. Probably as Ulm or LA Abysia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Aha Kristoffer, well in that case I will start a new game, if you are ready to play again. Everyone wants to play with you I think. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

What era do you fancy?

Incidentally I'm extremely impressed with you coming in the top few using MA Mictlan which was considered a very weak nation, and losing your first war. Your pandering to GrayZ was very entertaining and I suspect very cunning.

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I think I would like a LA game. Perhaps with slow research. At least if the game is as big as this one was.

But it is perhaps better if I play with standard settings. And I think MA Ulm is in more need of aid. Also I have more ideas for them in store atm.

No need to be impressed. The relative strengths of nations are not that important. Position, neighbours, diplomacy, opportunities and sheer luck (I had a lot of this early on) are way more important.