Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Personally I can't get enough of the MP experience and turns come a bit slower than i'd like. However, I realize other people may have a busier schedule than I currently do and staling turns is no fun. I think it's fine if people need an extension or if we need to switch to 48 hours. I just hope that in general the cases where the longer timer is needed are an exception, but that's just the eager geek inside me talking http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Also, I'd like to add that I'm having a blast this game. Something about playing a blood nation really appeals to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And all the activity in this thread is pretty awesome. I thoroughly enjoy reading all the comments, especially about the extremely-hot Claire! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Oh...secretperson...you havn't seen Claire huh? (Its a wyrm!) But then again... I AM the lizard people http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

The Yavana captain eyed the arrow protruding from his neck and crashed to the grass with a surprised expression. The remaining demigods took to their heels as the rain of deadly missiles fell among them. One, diseased and hideous to look upon, fell down an embrasure and was lost to the howling defenders. Another took a lance between the shoulder blades, crippling him as he hurled himself onto a panicked horse. They were the only two survivors.

The prophet who had led them into the deadly lands of the Sauromatians took the dwindled elements of his archers and fled, leaving the Earth Yaksha behind to the tender mercies of their enemy. The Sauromatians began the cooking ritual that would do nothing to transfer Gayaprasada's power to their bellies and hearts, but would make him taste much more delicious all the same.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...battle-2-1.jpg

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire's identity has been revealed !

Claire therefore says that she will have peace near her borders. Even if the Ry'leh-fishthingy don't agree. Claire also didn't like the accusation from Ctis. But, being fellow lizards, she says that she will join C'tis and put Ryleh-fishes back where they belong : in their pond. Once the fishes are back in their rightful place, she will however stop all hostilities against the fishes.

Claire will however respect her NAP with the Ryleh-Fishlord and not attack before the due period.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Random thought of the day :

Claire also says that she likes sushi, but cannot eat any because all of her cook litterally cook things when they are cooking, and therefore can't make sushi.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Well, it's certainly a disappointment for many of the male gods here.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But, well, Abyssia preaching peace & love & all was a disappointment also.. We'll just have to live with it, I guess.. Though, on the other hand, R'lyeh now has a possiblitity to erase such discontinuity from the map of the world.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
BTW, Claire, wasn't it you who had eaten the Pretender of Fomoria after he had fled from the battlefield? We hadn't seen him since... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif And you could make sushi OF the cooks if they disappoint you.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire has no idea what or where this Fomoria is.

On a side note... I don't receive the mail for the turn anymore. That's the reason why I nearly stalled last time.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire will attack us Aboleths, then?

Yoth'Shothogg would smile, if she had a mouth. Claire may receive a surprise altogether not to her liking.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire may receive a surprise not to her liking ?

Claire is not so arrogant to believe that she will win even before she fights. Claire knows that only people that do not know the arts of war do this. Claire will gloat if and when she wins, not before. It seems that Yoth'Shothogg gloats before even fighting, so not only it forgets that Claire will have surprises of her own, but furthermore, if it loses, it will look like a fool.

Claire really cannot understand the "mind" of fishes.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

The great writer Tun Szu of T'ien Chi once said that great generals seek to win first and then go to war, instead of going to war and then seeking to win.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire says that Sun-tzu is right, and that she will see how much (or how little) of his writing you have understood on the battlefield.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

I'll put my message to everyone here, for the sake of time(C'tis put up Gift of Health, a blatant show-off)(in roleplayese, of course):

"Stop your petty wars, your small skirmishes! There is but one great enemy now: C'tis. Though Sauromatia is dangerous, C'tis is now the great python to Sauromatia's small, poisonous lizard. Both are dangerous, one moreso; that one is C'tis. Unite against these followers of a dead snake-man who should have been put to rest long ago! We say unite--and destroy C'tis!"

Anyone bother to argue with our argument? Perhaps Claire, always the peace-maker, wants to give C'tis time to grow in power and perhaps help destroy some of C'tis' enemies for it? Perhaps Frannabelle wants to destroy a few border countries and maybe try to weaken C'tis' indominable hold when it's too late? Perhaps Caelum will revive its conflict with Kailasa to gain a few provinces out of a weakening nation? Perhaps Kailasa will swear to serve Sauromatia, in a desperate effort to gain time to defeat C'tis? This bickering is useless. Unite, says Yoth'shothogg--whether behind Her, or perhaps Claire, or the god of Marverni . . . Yoth'Shothogg says only that we should unite.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

A warning from the grand Celes, High Queen of Lanka to Claire-

It has reached my ears that you have decided to assist C'tis in their schemes and war. We will not abide by such decision and politely request that you at the least cease hostilities against R'lyeh and in no way assist C'tis in this. If you persist we will be forced to act against you and you will be faced with a two front battle. I, of course, would prefer peace rather than war.

That being said, if the great nation of Abysia chooses to side AGAINST C'tis we will gladly give our support in gems, gold, and armies.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

What is the meaning of your babble, R'lyeh?
If you want to take Sauromatia down, do it. If you want to beat C'tis, do it yourself. If you want somebody to help you, say what you can do FOR them except babble. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Well, I for one know that Yoth'Shothogg can promise not to mind-enslave you if you help with the war, Wrana. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

But more seriously, R'lyeh has gems. Quite a few gems of all sorts of things R'lyeh does not need. R'lyeh also has money. Not that Yoth'Shothogg would ever spare a coin for one who does not promote Her cause in some way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

What the fish can promise & what it will do aren't necessary the same... And in any case - just you try! Swim into Moscow by river & try... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
As for gems & gold - that's more like man's talk. Though still talk, of course. If you will, say, talk Tien Chi into leaving my lands alone, it will be worth something. Otherwise - stuff it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Yes! Yes fear me and my ten provinces! And my awsome gift of health!
Claire, realize this. Once I am dead, they will attack you from every direction, not just two. Fighting together, we may just yet stand a chance!

Be one of the few, whose mind is untainted by the useless babble of this giant fish.

How about you Ossa, O mighty king of the Helheim nation, will you assist us? Assist us by crushing Lanka and their demonic monkies? Or sit by idly, and watch as nations around you crumble? Or take initiative by destroying either me or Lanka? The choice is yours, and I pray you make the right one, lest the fishes of the sea crawl out and consume us all...

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire has 5 neighbours, so she is already dead. Somehow, the propaganda from someone worked, and everyone is afraid of Ctis when Ctis doesn't poses a threat.

Ryleh fishes are the only ones that can actually block what the turn with eye of god showed us, but they choose to leave sauromantia and just waste their armies here. Ulm also is a much bigger threat that we will ever be, having 2 capitals.

Claire ask again : are you people really stupid enough to waste your armies against Ctis and me when the REAL threats are elsewhere ? If the answer is yes, then come and die.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

As the connection between the mighty kings of helheim and the surface is unstable at this moment (moved and still have no internet at home) we shall not interfere with the ways of the mortals at this moment... or at least until a technichian shows up to fix our entrance doors (connection).
Llanka is a good ally of us, though. These monkey people can do astonishingly tricks with bananas and other small objects.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

C'tis may not pose a threat now, but think about if they put up Wild Hunt. Does Sauromatia have the peace to simply research to the top of the food chain? No, and neither should C'tis, though that is what is happening.

And since people are so worried about Sauromatia, perhaps we can deal with it when we're finished with C'tis. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

(about T'ien Chi, they try to ignore all of my messages to them, which I think is rather strange)

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire says : Sauromantia had more research, twice the territory, three time the armies, is in a corner of the map facing less than 2 opponents (because you are wasting your armies here), and you do this because you are afraid of a spell that can potentially attack about 3 mages per month on the entire world ?

Claire says that she has not much else to say. Claire says that it is the most ridiculous reason that she has ever seen.

Claire is happy though. Claire thinks that it will be easy to beat someone who is afraid of the dark and ready to jump at shadows.

Claire finally says that this quote from your Tun Tzu describes the current strategy should be : "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious".
You and your devil-loving monkey "allies" know that it's not the time to fight us. A 2 vs 2 fight means that no matter who "wins", all four of us will lose. During that time real threats will grow strong. Strong enough that none of us will be able to block them.

Claire still, one last time, offers you a good condition : go back to the sea, grow strong, grow bold, grow smart, and Claire shall not bother you. This is the last chance you will have.

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Message from Claire to the monkeys : Claire sees now that Ryleh-fishes have put a leash on you. Claire asks : Are you content to be the underdogs ? Claire asks if you remember that you can also be taken by behind ? Claire says that whereas you will be weakened when you try to invade Claire's lands, Ryleh-fishes will not. Claire doesn't know what they promised you, but by attacking Claire, you are dooming yourselves.

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Edit : because it was necessary.

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Last message from Claire : if Lanka and Ryleh's stance doesn't change, Claire proposes to extend Ctis'offer of a military alliance to Hellheim and anyone with a border with Lanka. Even if Claire knows that by waiting you can simply take us all later at your leisure, a military alliance would give you access to Claire's magic forging capabilities.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Oh, T'ien Ch'i, you cowards. The barbarians greedily eye your western frontier. Do you not know the threat the Sauromatians represent? Do you not know what will inevitably result from steppe barbarians invading agrarian societies, societies such as T'ien Ch'i? Kailasa is no threat to you. Kailasa is all that stands between you and Sauromatians stampeding through the Gate of Spring and Autumn. And yet you invade.

Perhaps you have an agreement with Sauromatia. Perhaps you think the Sauromatians friends. But the Sauromatians are not a tame people. They are wild and greedy. They can not be subdued, bribed, pacified, or befriended; only contained or destroyed.

Kailasa calls upon all the peoples of the north: something must be done about T'ien Ch'i, who have all the wisdom and restraint of a rabid beast. I ask this even of Sauromatia, though they consider themselves my enemy.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

We do not consider the Kailasans our enemy. We merely want to inhabit the lands of our forefathers that Stravinsky cheated from them through trickery and heedlessness.

Helheim, if you need more time for turns we can go to 48 hour timer.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire now laughs at the foolishness of the world. Sauromantia is at our doorstep.

Claire was right all along. Ryleh-fishes. You know what agreement I ask of you in exchange for peace : a joined alliance against Sauromantia. That's the reason I need you back in the sea, so I can join the fight against the major power. Will you go on your foolishness and finally face the truth ? Not that it matters much now. If you do not, you will outlive me as long as he cannot enter the seas.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Yoth'Shothogg would be happy to extend an offer to Claire. If, of course, Claire can get over herself and realize that Yoth'Shothogg will not remove her foothold on land voluntarily. Otherwise, R'lyeh will not accept Claire's offer. R'lyeh will fight Sauromatia when C'tis does not pose such a direct threat--Sauromatia cannot easily take any of R'lyeh's provinces, as our only border is water. However, C'tis can easily take some of Yoth'Shothogg's hard-earned land.

Also, we Aboleths thank you for the Demonbred slave.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire said that you refused, despite having an island just for you on the opposite side that no one can take but you. The Fishlord has its foothold there, but wants too much.

Claire adds that your foolishness started a war, and that talks are over.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

That island is already taken. As is all land that R'lyeh owns. Attack at your own risk, Claire. The Aboleths are waiting.

(Also, R'lyeh came into this war when Marverni called for help after C'tis attacked them; it appears someone's got bad informants)

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Maverni was cramping my style

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire adds that you are assuming much when saying that Claire don't have enough information, and that she is tired of your idle threats and misinformation.

Claire is now waiting for Lanka's answer. And I hope that his answer will not be "I'm on the fishes' leash". Claire has stated the reasons why answering the fishes' wishes is foolish. Claire hopes that she is not surrounded by people that do not know the arts of war.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

One would think Claire would hope the opposite, since she's surrounded by enemies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And Yoth'Shothogg is willing to say that Lanka is not on R'lyeh's leash. If it is, well, Lanka isn't on R'lyeh's leash alone. What dog will obey a master who has no way to control it?

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Lanka will be carefully considering their position.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Yoth'Shothogg hopes that Lanka does not take into account only R'lyeh's power when considering its position. If Lanka does choose to only account for R'lyeh, we Aboleths hopes that Lanka will take into account the Mind Lords.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Of what Mind Lords do you speak?

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Perhaps of the ones I utterly destroyed about a year ago? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Haha

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Or perhaps the ones you're too afraid to attack? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Haha

On an unrelated topic, what's with Bog Beasts? I've never seen one, and I don't know why they're so famous. Are they size 1-2 tramplers, or what?

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

It seems we have once again spoken too soon my dear Yoth'Shothogg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...vs_CtisDOS.gif

Maverni shall now fall as sure as the hammer upon the forge.

And also, if you want death/nature items, or really basic astral items, specify which you want, and I will name the price in gems.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Oh, Sauromatia! I just noticed that you've been naming all of your commanders. Someone has been reading A Song of Ice and Fire, it is known. (Also, it is all too appropriate that Khal Drogo, the Horse Tribe Chief, is weakened and diseased.)

Anyway, we humbly welcome your grande armée to Kailasa. You are just in time: one of our princesses is soon to be wedded. It is tradition that such a royal wedding is a day of peace and celebration; we therefore would invite you and your army to our castle to join us in the festivities.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire rejoices. As Claire thought Ryleh is all talk and no strength.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4...torylg9.th.jpg

Note : we did lose 4 units in exchange for more than 100, the screenshot is not modified. EDIT : Claire's vision of the battle showed her that 2 or 3 of our losses are not due to Ryleh's strength but to friendly "fire".

Now, Claire's offer was for a peace once you realised that you stood no chance against us on land. Will you accept to stay in your pond where you belong ? Claire has bigger fishes to fry.

PS : too many edit but still.
Claire invites all people from the world to a huge sushi party !

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Reading it all for the second time in too long actually, as it's definitely worth it. Although the last one was disappointing and I'm sure we all agree.

HE FELL FROM HIS HORSE! And we've got good ol' Measter Cressen with a limp and disease as well. He's got a glass eye now, too.

We regretfully inform you that we cannot come inside your fortification at this time, though our raiders, looters, and squads of elite Impolites will be inside shortly - the princess and the flower of your womenfolk belong to Frannabelle now, where she will keep them in her She-Harem of Earthly Delight, or SHED.

Abysia, fresh from victory... take care that you do not annoy us with your forces moving about near our lands. If we have to make an example of you, rest assured that your nation will fall.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire would like to remind you that despite being hostile to you in the diplomatic court, we still have a NAP. Claire will not start attacking you before breaking it.

Besides, Claire sees that it is the first time that you warn someone on the court before attacking them. Are you afraid ?

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

I annulled our NAP pages ago. And there has not been a time when I have not warned the person I was going to attack before doing it.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Claire has to ask where and when. Things will change if that is the case.

Not that it matters much, adds Claire. Claire knows that with the power of 3 or nations under your rule, and no one rising against you, you can break any NAP you wish with no consequences.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

Precisely. It seems we already have a winner. Pity.

Re: Two Birds With One Stone
 

How exactly do you rename people? :O

Two Stones With One Dove
 

We Aboleths are tired of war with C'tis and Abysia, though Yoth'Shothogg is not. The terms for peace with C'tis are simple: Peace with Marverni if Marverni wants peace. The terms for Abysia are more private, and well be sent to Claire and only Claire, though she may choose to show the terms to the world.

Also, you rename with 'r'.

Re: Two Stones With One Dove
 

kasnavada brought it to my attention that the email notification wasn't working anymore. I turned it off when I changed the VP win count for the game and forgot to turn it on again. This has been corrected now.

Re: Oh, the Horror!
 

Right here. One would think Claire would pay more attention as her ADD has already gotten her killed once! Stravinsky never made amends to our people. Will Claire?

Re: Oh, the Horror!
 

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Claire says that isn't a treaty closure. People that are not friends can have treaties. The Ryleh-fishes proposes a treaty to me, Claire doesn't consider them friends. Claire still listens, and may agree.

Claire says it's fine : consider this treaty broken. Claire says that now, everyone knows that you twist your own words to fit the current situation, and that's more that Claire could have asked for.

Re: Oh, the Horror!
 

I think it's pretty obvious that that was an NAP annullment.

When you find yourself in a hole, you should probably stop digging.