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Lingchih October 5th, 2008 03:25 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Pythium Castle Builders. When you need a castle built right, hire Pythium Castle Builders. We build em right, complete with Iron Walls.


Hmm. Maybe I should not have sent all those artifacts away.

Ironhawk October 6th, 2008 12:36 AM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Hehehe - did a capital defence go well for you Lingchih?

Lingchih October 6th, 2008 05:42 AM

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Well, when you consider that all I have left is my capital, yeah, I guess it did go well.

Rathar October 7th, 2008 02:12 AM

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I am off to Ireland until the 16th for my sisters wedding. A friend of mine is subbing and if you need to speak with them its kyledotjdotackermanatgmaildotcom, otherwise I'll be back soon!

Hope my war goes well!

Rathar October 7th, 2008 03:08 AM

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Now now why did you have to mess up a perfectly good war Marignon.. I guess I'll see how it ended when I get back

Amhazair October 7th, 2008 07:54 AM

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You should have offered to trade me earth gems... :(

I did warn people about that, didn't I? ;)

Ironhawk October 7th, 2008 12:46 PM

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Speaking of going to other countries, I too will be going away soon. From the 12th to the 18th I will be in Iceland (not Ireland!). I've talked to Zeldor briefly and he said he would be willing to sub so likely he will take over for me. It is amusing that the second TC - Agartha war appears to be happening by proxy :)

DonCorazon October 8th, 2008 03:03 AM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Can I get a 6 hour extension on this turn? May not need it but have to travel for work and might cut it close. Thanks.

Ironhawk October 8th, 2008 04:52 PM

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Turn postponed by 6 hours

namad October 9th, 2008 01:49 PM

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anyone willing to pay a premium for rune smashers? or any other hotter item?

namad October 9th, 2008 02:01 PM

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anyone willing to trade/sell blood slaves?

also what are they worth? less than gems obviously?

Amhazair October 9th, 2008 04:34 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Well, it's actually quite easy to see how much it costs for a nation to produce slaves, since it's a straight gold to slaves conversion.

The cost of a blood slave = Income of the province you're hunting in + upkeep cost of the hunters / the average number of captured blood slaves.

Obviously this means that the cost depends on the blood hunters you have available, but for regular blood nations the bulk of the cost is in the income loss.

For myself - without opening the game and start doing the math - I'm guessing that it's costing me ~7g or a bit more to capture one blood slave, though that might quickly go up to maybe 10 once I start bloodhunting in less optimal (ie. population 7000+ ) provinces. There's obviously also the opportunity cost of enabling a potential rival to start in on a blood economy, but that's another issue.

Convert to gems depending on how much you value gold. :)


All of the above was just theoretical info to help you establish a fair price. Of course, if you were to ask me what I would ask, I might ask an unfair price instead. :D (Hint: I'm still short of earth gems. ;) )

More seriously, I'm currently not in any great rush to sell slaves, as my income atm is quite modest, and I'm still busy building up my blood economy. Selling slaves at this stage would mean having to buy extra blood hunters while I also want to recruit researchers and battle mages. However, if you want to do business, PM me. If you come up with an intresting offer we'll talk. (And I will actually do the above math for real. ;) )

Edit: Weee! New rank. :D

quantum_mechani October 9th, 2008 08:13 PM

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Mage bane for sale, PM me an offer. Blood slaves preferred payment but any will be considered.

Zeldor October 11th, 2008 04:33 PM

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Could I get 24h more for my turn? No chance to do it today and I will have time just tomorrow late evening [busy weekend] and I will have to take a look at what Ironhawk left me with :)

calmon October 11th, 2008 05:11 PM

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I'm open to listen each rumor to find out the subject responsible for dispeling the oak.

Think about it, if i find out who was it there will be a war. And a war you're not involed is perfect, isn't it? :D

quantum_mechani October 11th, 2008 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 644917)
Could I get 24h more for my turn? No chance to do it today and I will have time just tomorrow late evening [busy weekend] and I will have to take a look at what Ironhawk left me with :)

Sure, I'll add the time.

namad October 13th, 2008 08:49 PM

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could someone please lend me a flame helmet for one turn so i can forge my own? I'll pay a small fee for the right to use your helmet and then return yours?



totally separately would anyone be willing to loan me a winged helmet and a bag of winds so i can forge them both and then return them?


fee's negotiable via IRC or PM


also is anyone willing to trade water gems?

namad October 13th, 2008 09:35 PM

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okay nevermind about the water gems...


anyone want to sell a robe of the magi?

DonCorazon October 13th, 2008 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calmon (Post 644925)
I'm open to listen each rumor to find out the subject responsible for dispeling the oak.

Think about it, if i find out who was it there will be a war. And a war you're not involed is perfect, isn't it? :D

Definitely not Midgard. Our grindingly slow war against Ulm and its endless supply of covert foreign aid has left us depleted of any resources and a burgeoning national debt. Hmm..what does that remind me of?

Lesson learned.

Zeldor October 14th, 2008 07:00 AM

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Sailing should be banned on that map.

Micah October 14th, 2008 02:46 PM

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That map should be banned, period.

Baalz October 14th, 2008 03:05 PM

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I don't know...I'm enjoying it! :D

WraithLord October 14th, 2008 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Micah (Post 645586)
That map should be banned, period.

I 2nd Micah. The map is IMO unfair, I wasn't aware to what degree, or I'd have bowed out of this one. OtOH the artifacts concept is way too cool to turn down.

archaeolept October 14th, 2008 03:28 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
awful map, especially in the east.

DonCorazon October 14th, 2008 04:24 PM

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Can we turn quickhost off just for this turn? Somehow I sent in my turn last night immediately after receiving the turn file. Thanks

In future, i'd prefer artifacts that could not be sold or given away. :)

Lingchih October 14th, 2008 11:36 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Patala is a pussy.

Sorry Patala, just trying to get this game done. I thought I should taunt you. Kill me now, please.

calmon October 15th, 2008 05:38 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Gath is interested in astral and death gems. I can trade you other gems for it - nature/earth/water and in small amounts fire/air.

I also offer to pay for it in gold.

Just PM me if you're interested.

Amhazair October 15th, 2008 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 645520)
Sailing should be banned on that map.

What's wrong with sailing? :angel:

Nah, seriously. Indeed this isn't the most balanced map around, and it is indeed perfect to exploit sailing to the fullest. I do enjoy it however, precisely because it presents different tactical challanges to the average map.

And I'm quite sure I would have said the same even if I weren't one of the nations that really benefited from it. :smirk:

Lingchih October 15th, 2008 09:23 PM

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C'mon Amhazair, the map sucks for most of the players. Too many chokepoints. Granted, I am almost dead, and have little to say on these matters. It's a very nice SP map though.

CUnknown October 16th, 2008 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 645752)
Patala is a pussy.

Sorry Patala, just trying to get this game done. I thought I should taunt you. Kill me now, please.

Haha... you're right I am a pussy. :happy:

But ... I mean, for real, why should I lose troops in an invasion when I can just preach you out? You've only got 1 candle left. Feel free to break siege, I'd rather fight outside where there are no ballista shooting at me, plus I would get first go.

My nation is of very meager means. I have lost 40 turns fighting you and I don't care if it goes on a few more if it means I can keep more experienced troops for later.

We have had a good war, haven't we? I wish we were the only two players in the game, haha. Then I would win!! :happy: Instead I am dead last after you are gone. :(

Rathar October 16th, 2008 04:13 AM

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I'm back, had a lovely time! Did I happen to survive if not thrive? I guess I'll get control back when I can.

Zeldor October 16th, 2008 05:40 AM

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Rathar:

Your invading army got annihilated :)

Lingchih October 16th, 2008 02:49 PM

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Quote:

But ... I mean, for real, why should I lose troops in an invasion when I can just preach you out? You've only got 1 candle left. Feel free to break siege, I'd rather fight outside where there are no ballista shooting at me, plus I would get first go.
Actually, I have 11 candles if you count the ones in the neighboring provs, but yeah, the castle is actually in your dom now.

namad October 16th, 2008 11:11 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
can someone sell me a stone sphere or two? I'd have to pay in SDN probably as i have no earth


or can someone trade me a few earth?

Lingchih October 16th, 2008 11:29 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 646134)
Quote:

But ... I mean, for real, why should I lose troops in an invasion when I can just preach you out? You've only got 1 candle left. Feel free to break siege, I'd rather fight outside where there are no ballista shooting at me, plus I would get first go.
Actually, I have 11 candles if you count the ones in the neighboring provs, but yeah, the castle is actually in your dom now.

Well, the walls are down. Just storm me. Yeah, you'll lose some troops, but what the hell, you are in last place anyway. I can't envision any scenario where I would win that storming. And then I'll be done, and out of the game.

Rathar October 17th, 2008 05:03 AM

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Alas I hear from my sub that they messed something up and.. On the bright side I have something to blame! (Other than having 2 nations in my lands..) I was going down anyways but it's a fun game, glad I got to play. Kill me quick so I can join another!

CUnknown October 17th, 2008 10:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 646247)
Well, the walls are down. Just storm me. Yeah, you'll lose some troops, but what the hell, you are in last place anyway. I can't envision any scenario where I would win that storming. And then I'll be done, and out of the game.

Alright, alright, I'm coming! Geez... You've got some death wish! Yeah ...I was dumb and thought the candle on your capital was the last one. Here come the nagas!

(You can turn yourself AI if you don't care for the game anymore)

WraithLord October 17th, 2008 05:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CUnknown (Post 646339)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 646247)
Well, the walls are down. Just storm me. Yeah, you'll lose some troops, but what the hell, you are in last place anyway. I can't envision any scenario where I would win that storming. And then I'll be done, and out of the game.

Alright, alright, I'm coming! Geez... You've got some death wish! Yeah ...I was dumb and thought the candle on your capital was the last one. Here come the nagas!

(You can turn yourself AI if you don't care for the game anymore)

That was some hilarious exchange. Worthy of some characters in Erikson's works :D

Lingchih October 17th, 2008 08:03 PM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CUnknown (Post 646339)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 646247)
Well, the walls are down. Just storm me. Yeah, you'll lose some troops, but what the hell, you are in last place anyway. I can't envision any scenario where I would win that storming. And then I'll be done, and out of the game.

Alright, alright, I'm coming! Geez... You've got some death wish! Yeah ...I was dumb and thought the candle on your capital was the last one. Here come the nagas!

(You can turn yourself AI if you don't care for the game anymore)

Actually, it's a trap, CUnknown. Don't storm it. That place ia a bomb waiting to be triggered. Forgive me for trying to lure you to your death.

Lingchih October 18th, 2008 12:38 AM

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Th, th, th, that's all folks. Pythium is dead. My final test worked well though. Good luck to everyone left in the game.

I left you the lab Patala. I'm not a complete A-hole.

Rathar October 19th, 2008 06:29 PM

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Hmm any chance of a 12 hour extension? I haven't even had the chance to look at the turn I've been so buried under baby and whatnot..

I'll PM QM!

quantum_mechani October 19th, 2008 09:13 PM

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Extended.

quantum_mechani October 20th, 2008 10:10 AM

Re: The Artifacts Game - [ running ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum_mechani (Post 646870)
Extended.

Hmm, I think I have to turn the 12 hours to 24 hours, I'm not going to have a chance to take the turn until about the same time today.

Rathar October 20th, 2008 10:37 AM

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Thanks for the extend. I finally got to look at the turn and do it.. My my did my sub sink my battleship..

WraithLord October 20th, 2008 03:49 PM

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QM, I'll be on a long weekend vacation between 10/31 - 03/11. Can you please postpone hosting at this time so that I don't stale?- I'll post/PM a reminder closer to date.

TIA, WL.

CUnknown October 21st, 2008 02:42 PM

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It must seem odd, but sometimes I like losing a game very badly, like I am now. It takes all the pressure off! If I am 2nd or 3rd place or something and just barely lose, it is frustrating, but now even if I gain a couple more provinces I will be happy. I know my ultimate death is assured, but it is sort of fun like this, heh.:happy:

DonCorazon October 22nd, 2008 03:30 PM

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Can we add some time on the clock, say 12 hours? Btw, anyone else interested in going to 72hrs on this game?

WraithLord October 22nd, 2008 03:55 PM

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I am. Actually have asked for one like some 10-15 turns back :)

quantum_mechani October 22nd, 2008 06:04 PM

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Another 24h added to the clock.

namad October 22nd, 2008 06:07 PM

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i thought we were already on 72h! if we aren't we might as well get on it since every single turn we're adding 12-24h anyways?


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