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TheDemon April 19th, 2009 12:03 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lavaere (Post 686579)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 686433)
Oh hey Lanka, nice attack. I should probably remind you that Neifel Jarls do not run, ever,(at least mine don't), and they are pretty hard to kill. You might want to keep that in mind in the future as you try to put your army back together.

I really though I'd have done alot better in that fight. But between that single battle and a very annoying Caelum. It could be awhile if at all.

The funny thing is, I'm the one who's supposed to be gunning for your armies, but Nief is getting all the big hits. I need more guys in the HoF damnit.

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 12:39 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
More massive hits from my Jarls. Yes, Noobs, I know you will say that you killed one. But that was an ill-placed move into unfriendly territory. Yes, a Jarl can be killed. But oh, they do not die easily.

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 01:38 AM

Going on vacation May 2
 
I think Zeldor is the first sub up. Then Namad. Either one of you will do. PM me and I will send you the details.

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 01:51 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Hehe. Don't get your hopes up Noobs. Zeldor is actually better than I am.

Septimius Severus April 19th, 2009 01:58 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 686654)
Hehe. Don't get your hopes up Noobs. Zeldor is actually better than I am.

Yes, that's right. Looks like Zeldor will be the temporary caretaker for Mysterio.

Considering how much you post, you can give a summary every 5 or 10 turns if you want.

An easy unbiased way to do this would be to record the stats for a given turn and say 5 turns later, comment on the difference.

Septimius Severus April 19th, 2009 02:09 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum_mechani (Post 686575)
I don't think it's what everyone wants- presumably no one wants a game that ends before it even really begins, and I certainly don't want a big map game. With your edict those seem to be the options.

If the vets lose the current game, you won't have to worry about 3:1. Otherwise, I'm afraid the insolence and arrogance of Mysterio, the vets, and their ilk must be punished.

I'm sure you'll figure something out to deal with it. I would like to have you in the next game, as I would everyone from the previous games.

Of course, as Lingchih says, I'll be limited by practicality, and to who I can get to go along with the idea. :) I'll be shooting for MA, btw. A taste of things to come.

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 03:30 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
This is all so premature. Mysterio has not even been spotted yet, and his Jarls are causing significant damage.

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 03:34 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Mysterio, in his slumberings, see that his Jarls have indeed done the damage that he had intended. Worldwide chaos, and the chance to enslave this world. It is only a matter of time now.

darloth April 19th, 2009 07:57 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 686646)
More massive hits from my Jarls. Yes, Noobs, I know you will say that you killed one. But that was an ill-placed move into unfriendly territory. Yes, a Jarl can be killed. But oh, they do not die easily.

I dunno, trading 8 freespawn for 1 and 5 skinshifters seems like a good deal to -me- ^_^

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 07:04 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 686655)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 686654)
Hehe. Don't get your hopes up Noobs. Zeldor is actually better than I am.

Yes, that's right. Looks like Zeldor will be the temporary caretaker for Mysterio.

Considering how much you post, you can give a summary every 5 or 10 turns if you want.

An easy unbiased way to do this would be to record the stats for a given turn and say 5 turns later, comment on the difference.

Yeah, I do kind of post a lot. I should probably just shut up and play the game.

Lavaere April 19th, 2009 07:13 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
no no, excessive talking is perfectly fine. you've just been neglecting to report on army composition and deployment about veterans to the rest of us

Lingchih April 19th, 2009 07:54 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Of course Lavaere, how neglectful of me. I will be sure and post all vet deployments and troop composition in the future :)

to wit: Niefelheim has 42 Jarls in the field, with over 800 skinshifters. I will defer stating the other vet team members forces, until they give me the OK. Though their numbers are similar to Niefs.

atul April 20th, 2009 12:12 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Dont tell them my army composition. We don't want them to get a clue about those glamoured amphibious indies I found before it's too late, remember?

LumenPlacidum April 20th, 2009 08:45 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Hi. I'm not going to be able to get this turn in in time because I have to get off to work. Can we delay hosting for 12 hours? I might get it in before then, but that will leave me until tonight to submit it. Sorry for requesting the delay, but I simply couldn't do the turn before tonight.

I'll also send a PM to the administrator of the game.

atul April 20th, 2009 10:19 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
And I rushed home from work just to get a revision in on time... :/

Can't be helped, hope admins are awake.

Ironhawk April 20th, 2009 04:27 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Heheh sept: welcome to the world of hosting a game. It is a thankless job, I know it :)

So on that note, let me just take a minute to thank you for putting the game together. I'm having a good time and it looks to be some interesting wars brewing up here too! So, thanks! :clap:

And dont lose any sleep over the setting mistake either. Nothing ever comes out 100% right in a hosted game, there is always some problems and you just have to live with them. Another thing to keep in mind is that two of the people who complained most about the events thing were Arch and Namad - and they arent even in the game.

archaeolept April 20th, 2009 04:51 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
WTF? how is it relevant to an argument or an issue whether or not I am in a game? And any complaint I made was not about the setting, since why would I care, but the atrocious attitude Severus displayed.

now, I had my say, and it would have stayed dead, but Ironhawk seems to feel the need to stir the pot.

As it stands, the previous game's results are vitiated by the settings issue, and any subsequent noobs vs. vets game would I think be in dubious standings if organized by the same personage.

My statement about the settings issue:
Quote:

ah yes, that's not at all kosher. any settings other than standard (and almost no games are ever played w/ rare events) need to be explicitly stated. oh well - I guess the vets are playing w/ a disadvantage
What about this do you feel is incorrect Ironhawk? Do you feel such settings do not need to be explicitly stated? ie., like wtf.

I made that one 3 line post, and another of about equal length concerning Severus' attitude. I fail to see how that qualifies me for being the one who "complains the most".

Now, if you want to suck up to Severus in order to make him feel all valued and all, that's quite fine. Just leave me the hell out of it.

Ironhawk April 20th, 2009 06:11 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 686959)
WTF? how is it relevant to an argument or an issue whether or not I am in a game?

Uhh... Because if you arent in the game then it doesnt effect you in any way? You could think it was the best decision or the worst decision - but if you arent directly involved in the impact then Sept doesnt need to worry about your complaint.

Personally I think Sept is running a decent game for being a new hoster. If you dont then just dont sign up for his next one. There's no need to rant about it in the game thread.

archaeolept April 20th, 2009 11:40 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
as was indicated, my comment was neither a litany of complaints, nor a rant. You decided to flame me as part of some pathetic attempt to pander to Severus. What, I ask again, do you feel was incorrect in my statement? I am surely open to modifying my stance if you would be so kind as to show my mistake.

To think that whether one should "worry about a complaint" is unrelated to the validity of said "complaint" is the worst kind of soft thinking. My position in this, ie. my status ad hominem, is irrelevant.

Lingchih April 20th, 2009 11:44 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Oh, Sept wanted me to post a running commentary on the game I think. Well, here goes.

Vets continue to roll, pathetic Noobs are reeling.

Lavaere April 21st, 2009 12:02 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Well heres my running commentary then. Monkeys keep chasing Birds that keep flying around. They ran into giant bipedal Wolves which ate Monkeys. Monkeys limp home to plead to Demons. Demons having not had a good meal in a while, go on Iron Chief America with this weeks special ingredient 'Caelum Birdmen'

Lingchih April 21st, 2009 12:10 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Hehe. Nice post Lavaere.

Lavaere April 21st, 2009 12:28 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
well next time I just hope its a different era. maybe mid so I can play Shinuyama or Skaven. or late so I can play Bogarus

Septimius Severus April 21st, 2009 01:19 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lavaere (Post 687028)
well next time I just hope its a different era. maybe mid so I can play Shinuyama or Skaven. or late so I can play Bogarus

It will be MA most likely, we've done the other era's.

Septimius Severus April 21st, 2009 01:37 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhawk (Post 686954)
Heheh sept: welcome to the world of hosting a game. It is a thankless job, I know it :)

So on that note, let me just take a minute to thank you for putting the game together. I'm having a good time and it looks to be some interesting wars brewing up here too! So, thanks! :clap:

And dont lose any sleep over the setting mistake either. Nothing ever comes out 100% right in a hosted game, there is always some problems and you just have to live with them. Another thing to keep in mind is that two of the people who complained most about the events thing were Arch and Namad - and they arent even in the game.

Get him Ironhawk!

Many noobs start games with far less preperation/discussion than I put into the first game, how long was it before we even started?

I've already answered Arch's comment, by not responding to it.

Your right, while I generally welcome commentary, suggestions, and contstructive criticism from all who may follow our game, ultimately, those who are actually involved are the only ones who will be affected by any game settings.

atul April 21st, 2009 04:56 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
On a completely different note:

That much PD would've bought you a mage. Money well spent, Ermor? :p

darloth April 21st, 2009 12:55 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Hey vets, are you giving me stuff by accident, or as some sort of insult?

Edit: Or is there a third option I have failed to see. Some sort of cunning plan?

atul April 21st, 2009 01:42 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Probably by accident. Please return to sender.

Ironhawk April 21st, 2009 02:13 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
I definitely didnt mean to send anything to you. Except the point of a lance ;) Yeah please return to sender - and thanks for being honest!

In other news - Sauro if you have any more Hydras, please send them my way. It appears my people have a real taste for hydra meat! Mmmmmmmmm. So good with soy sauce.

TheDemon April 21st, 2009 02:29 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
On that note, none of us can figure out what's missing as all the stuff we sent last turn seems to be accounted for, so have fun I guess (or send it back and we'll be all "OHHHHH THAT").

Illuminated One April 21st, 2009 02:41 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
And there was I assuming that Ring of Wizardry was from a lucky event...

Septimius Severus April 22nd, 2009 12:20 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atul (Post 687053)
On a completely different note:

That much PD would've bought you a mage. Money well spent, Ermor? :p

Any money spent to kill some of your troops (no matter how many) is worthwhile IMO.

Odd, I didn't see a commander for them, at least not a priest.

darloth April 22nd, 2009 03:34 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
It was a chunk of 20 death gems, and since you aren't missing them immediately, I'll hold onto them for one more turn while I check with -my- team that someone didn't send them intentionally and for some perplexing reason they showed up as coming from Niefel.

Ironhawk April 22nd, 2009 04:51 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
We are missing them. Ling definitely intended to send a shipment of D gems, but just got it mixed up somehow. He thought he *hadnt* sent the gems that turn, but was planning on sending them next turn. Thats why we surprised. However, it appears he in fact did send them. Can you please return to sender?

TheDemon April 22nd, 2009 06:08 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
If it were me, I'd put them to immediate use so I could go all "what death gems?". But you might be a less malicious soul than I.

Lingchih April 22nd, 2009 09:21 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
:doh:

darloth April 23rd, 2009 09:29 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Then I'll return them this time (next turn I play), but most certainly not the next time. You are lucky I'm not the competetive your-fault-not-mine sort. Careful with those mouse clicks in future *grin*

atul April 23rd, 2009 03:21 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
So, the game's waiting for Fomoria only...

...some action required!

Lingchih April 23rd, 2009 10:30 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Thanks Darloth.

Lingchih April 23rd, 2009 11:35 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Turn report. Vets seem to gaining the upper hand. It could go either way now, but the vets seems to have the advantage. I have many Jarls in the field.

Lavaere April 24th, 2009 12:00 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Think you could loan me some of those Jarls then.

Lingchih April 24th, 2009 12:58 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Sure. Just research Charm. You can have as many of my Jarls as you want then.

darloth April 25th, 2009 10:18 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
I was up too late when I played my turn yesterday, and I entirely forgot to send those gems, sorry. I have now done so. Enjoy using them to continue stamping all over me -_-

Illuminated One April 25th, 2009 01:26 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Times look grim.

Lingchih April 25th, 2009 09:25 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Oh, don't worry Illuminated One. The times will look much grimmer soon.

TheDemon April 25th, 2009 09:46 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Illuminated One (Post 687850)
Times look grim.

Mictlan, Sauro, and Vanheim (your three biggest) are still 100% intact, TC is doing well, all Ermor has lost are mercs, and I hear Argatha beat a Hinnom army this turn. So we still got work to do.

Lavaere April 25th, 2009 10:59 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
I hear chilled monkey is quite the delicacy. Wouldn't know myself, cannibalism being a taboo and all.

darloth April 26th, 2009 08:28 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
I need a turn delay please - issues with my webhost and possible trojan javascript code mean I might not have access to email for a while. 48 hours should do, but I'll report back if things are fixed sooner.

Sorry!

Septimius Severus April 26th, 2009 03:15 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darloth (Post 687962)
I need a turn delay please - issues with my webhost and possible trojan javascript code mean I might not have access to email for a while. 48 hours should do, but I'll report back if things are fixed sooner.

Sorry!

I see you've already got your turn in, so I assume you mean you need extra time on the next turn, no prob, just keep me informed by pm as well since I can no longer access this forum at work (darn), so we can keep delays before turn 20 at a minimum.

Septimius Severus April 26th, 2009 03:17 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysterio's Revenge, EA, CBM, Game running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 687890)
Oh, don't worry Illuminated One. The times will look much grimmer soon.

We (the noob team) certainly have a challenge this time around.


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