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Since I'm next to Arco and we have a Cold War along our borders. I certainly know the Arco staling a turn wont mean much of anything.
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Okay, that all got FUBAR'd pretty well! I didn't expect/intend for the next turn to host after my last post while I was at work last night, so I rolled that one back. I was doing back-to-back 12 hour shifts and didn't have much time to do anything when I got up and went back to the slave shop.
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I don't understand why the turn was considered for a rollback but I'm out of the loop. I'm just going to send in my same turn and I hope everyone else does as well. I know it will be a pain for some of us to send turns in, but I hope everyone can just grin and bear it even if it really sucks for them. Whatever you do, don't just turn your nation to AI if you have lost interest now.
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ill look for a sub some time...
i cant be assed to keep playing after that crap sorry |
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Dakasha, at the very least please resubmit the 2h file you have for turn 39.
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i would but sorry i cant. i have to let my sub make his decisions (based on my knowledge) since otherwise my enemy's are just going to work around my turn
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Well, we'd just have to assume everyone will resend their same turn. In case of battles it should be pretty easy to tell by comparison. Its a mess but I don't see how else we can continue...
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Yes,please,everyone resubmit the exact same turn. If,for some reason,you no longer have it,please try to get as close to it as possible.
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DakaSha, if R'lyeh (and anyone else involved?) agree to submit the same orders, at least as far as the battles go, would that be fair? The RNG may still change the outcome, but it should be easy enough to tell if he changed orders.
Otherwise, we'll have to pause while you look for a sub. |
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My understanding is that the previous turns that were submitted at still on Llamaserver and you don't actually need to send a new turn UNLESS YOU STALED.
The reason I rolled the turn back was that I saw a couple people staled and it was probably because of my post that I wanted to do to a rollback because ... well, anyway, the point is that the way the rollback works only the people who staled the turn need to send in turns. So, if you sent in a turn for 39, its still sitting there on the server even though the game page claims it doesn't have it. Overall, very unhappy time. I'm obviously lacking the spare time to properly admin the game these days and would be great if someone else could take over. |
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It would be nice if the server just used the previous turns. I'd like confirmation before I trusted it though.
And enough people have already sent in new turns that it doesn't remove concerns about taking advantage of info from the rolled back turn. I'd be willing to take over as admin if you'd like. |
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And thanks for the offer to take over admin of the game. I'll PM you the admin password shortly ... FW |
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Ok. I got the password, so that should be all set.
I don't see that anywhere in the llamaserver FAQ, but it's good to know. Now I don't have to figure out what I was forging :) |
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Oh - so if all the turns are actually in there you can just force hosting now?
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I don't know who staled originally, so I don't know if they've gotten the turn in yet.
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OK, I'm confused, as to what the heck is going on, and what to do about it. I got resent the rolled-back turn for 39 yesterday, and then got sent turn 40, which seemed to be just fine?!
But then we got rolled back to 39 again? Without getting send another .trn file this time? Well, whatever, can someone just tell me what I need to do now? Send in my turn 40? Or go back and fine the .2h 39 file, if I still have it? Or find the rolled-back .trn 39 file (again, if I still have it), and redo my turn from that? Or not do anything, because the server has my previous turn, even though it's not showing it (that one got me :confused: )? |
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I'm a bit confused as well...
Is there another option that everyone plays turn 40 from the turn mailed out Monday AM before the rollback? do a force hosting and then ignore the new turn and continue with the pre-rollback turn? |
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TwoBits: As far as I know, we only rolled back once.
I'm not sure how you got the messages out of order. At this point, we're on Turn 39. Apparently you need do nothing, if you didn't stale last turn. hoo: I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work. The data on the server wouldn't match the data in the pre-rollback turns. |
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Does anyone (Firewalker?) know who had staled?
As soon as I know that whoever the rollback was actually done for has submitted his turn, I can force hosting. Only Arco, Tir, Ulm and Yomi haven't either (re)submitted a turn or commented here. Ossa: can you confirm you resubmitted R'lyeh's turn without changes? DakaSha: will that satisfy you and we can go ahead with your original turn? |
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No reason not to.
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well really i cant complain about what u guys do so feel free to do as u please. just wanted to make it as good of an entry for the sub as possible :)
ill start looking today or tomorrow. sorry friends from europe coming also you think the prior admin could apologize christ :rolleyes: |
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I am playing Arco.
I am completely confused now. I was sent turn 40 saying that I had staled the previous turn. Now it is rolled back to turn 39, but it still says that I staled the previous turn and I am in the exact same situation that I was in for "turn 40". So do I need to resend the turn? |
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punkzip, you should use turn 39's trn file to play a turn and send that 2h file in so that you don't stale for turn 39.
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Tir na n'Og is here, and pissed because of rollback. If someone would just be kind enough to tell me if there's the possibility of having my previous 39th turn 2h file being stored in llamaserver so I can pretty much wait out this turn or do I have to resubmit something close to what I originally did back in 39?
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Duke,
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Well I read that, but I had to be sure.. Soo... leaving things as they are now? Not sending anything to server aye?
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I have been assured that the llamaserver does keep the old 2h files and will use them after a rollback. It just doesn't display them on the webpage.
So you should be able to just wait this out. Most people had a copy of the 2h and re-sent it just to be sure. |
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If Arco sent in their turn, can we force host? That should eliminate some confusion and get the game caught up to speed.
But that leads to the Oceania problem. It appears that Daka is just done with this game completely which means that Oceania will stall until a sub is found. Should the game be halted until we find a sub? For the record, I'd be willing to do whatever it takes to get Daka to remain (give him the province and the gear he got from his victorious fight if he loses inthe rollback). Of the replacement players, both will be the biggest countries surrounding me which is frustrating to have change relationships immediately. |
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The Oceania situation is currently the hold-up. Otherwise I'd force host it now.
I'm tempted to host this turn anyway using his old turn. hoo used the same 2h file and if I hear the same from Ossa, I don't see any reason not to proceed. Then Daka can keep playing or get a sub as he sees fit. |
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ok just let me look over all this when i get home later. Im not saying ill quit because im a brat. if you were in my position youd prob understand the frustration it caused me. its just a simple question of how much fun the game would be after that (not to mention that i really do suffer from slight OCD heh :P)
anyways i dont want to make this harder for you guys im sure your not very happy either do whatever you want. im not changing my turn simply due to time constraints (and hope my two enemy's are honorable) . ill see how the turn folds out and decide whether it pisses me off enough or not. one problem is that i got alooooot of gear from hoo and chances are its not going to happen again but at the same time i dont want thim to suffer due to this (btw hoo the animosity in game is only in-game.. its just role play ;) ... im playing a bastard pretender right now which is part of why im not in a much better position after my crazy initial expansion ^^ lol ) |
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oops sorry wrong thread hehe (double post... the thing up there is correct :P )
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All right. I'm going to host this thing then.
Fingers crossed. Hope it works out for everyone. |
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Safe...
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!@$@#%@#$%^@#$^@$&$^*6
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well im definitely out. that was bullcrap. i lost my battle against hoo and as far as i can tell Rhley changed his turn.
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Well, the rollback didn't bear any(big)changes for me.
On the other hand, I'm really sorry to hear that you're going, DakaSha:( And I hope that Rl'yeh hasn't actually changed his turn, that would be very...depressing:( Anyway, as a reference for future accidental rollbacks, not only in this game but everywhere, I think that only the players who actually staled last turn should send one, so that no turn changing doubts are possible(maybe that's why the llamaserver doesn't show the old turns, so it's possible to check who sended a new one?) |
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My turn is the same, though with more plagues and barbarians, hahaha. My neighbours all sent the same turns too, thanks! Too bad about Daka, though I believe Hoo nobly offered the items and province as tribute to keep him in the game. The mighty nation of Oceana should consider the offer.
Anyway, I look forward to the upcoming battles with everyone. The game is taking a sharp turn towards interesting for the demons of Lanka, and for many other nations. Good luck to all! |
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Well, only mildly irritating changes on my end. I'm still totally confused as to why there was a roll-back in the first place? In the future, can we have more public consultation before taking such a drastic move again?
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Agreed. I'm not sure why the rollback happened either. I'll be sure to make it more open if it has to happen again.
Unfortunately, we'll now have to go on hold until we have a sub for Oceania. |
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As I said, I'll give Daka the gear and the province if he stays. This is a much better deal for him b/c he'll be able to use the gear a lot quicker than having his guys several provinces from a lab where he can actually make use of gear. B/c a Bishop Fish with combat gear isn't very useful...
If R'lyeh changed his turn that is a bigtime shame. BTW: While I won my fight vs. Oceania, other elements of my turn went much worse. Things usually balance out although I'm sure some folks won and others were big time losers. And my offer of giving gear doesn't apply to any replacement! |
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i really respect the offer hoo but due to whats happened this game is just more frustrating then fun now :(
ill look for a sub but i cant till later so if you guys want to now feel free. ill make sure to give any sub all info about my game. my pretender design was kind of unorthodox though just as a warning :P |
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In any case, I won't share and will try not to use any knowledge I shouldn't have. If no-one objects, I'm your sub. |
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I'm ok with this. And we probably need a 24 hour extension as much I hate to say it.
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I've postponed hosting by a day. Hopefully that'll give Majuva time to get back and Vanishag time to figure out Oceania.
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Vanishag is shaping up to be MVP of Mists of Time!
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i sent all relevant info to van. let me know if anything else is needed
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No sign of Majuva yet?
We may have to delay another day... |
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