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I am back in charge of Ulm! Ghill has clued me into the changes in the diplomatic situation. His acting as a temp for me is much appreciated.

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thanks irfna. i got back sooner than i expected, sent my turn in.

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I'm having trouble connecting to the server, is anyone else having the same problem?

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i also am

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Me too

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havent been able to connect for a long time for this game, but others are fine.

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Emailed gandalf for a restart

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ragabash had about one week to send his turn in (yomi). i wonder why he havent.

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Well, he hasn't logged into the forums for 16 days...

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Sent ragabash a PM, if he hasn't responded by tomorrow I'll begin the great sub search

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i will be on vacation until monday 18:00 GMT. Most probably that wont cause a delay if we will be waiting for asub for ragabash.

I have already sent my current turn in.

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Is anyone around yomi that can tell me of their general status in the game so I can post it in a sub thread?

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well I have a Nap-3 with them and they have been in war with LA-Jomon. they are doing allright I guess. I don't have that much info in the area though probably ask Jomon on how he is doing.

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There is something amusing about jomon warring with the demons of their past

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I will unfortunately be out of town attending to family matters from July 27th through August 2nd or 3rd. I have tried to find a way to get my turns in but under the pressing circumstances it just won't work.

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I am fine with a sub if someone is available.

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to be honest I might need a big extension at some point aswell. (not that point)and since it is summer and all have RL plans I am happy with waiting up until whenever. If you can find yourself a temporary substitue that will be fine aswell.

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If you guys could give me a quick rundown of your state, I can just have a mega sub and temp sub thread or something. I get the feeling, though, that there just aren't enough people around willing to sub that will make the temp subbing work, but we'll see.

Also, could jomon give me some info on yomi's state for said thread?

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So are we going to set Yomi to AI or what? With all these delays I am coming up on a period where I'll be away for another two weeks in October, and at this rate we'll be two or three turns on from where we are now. At some point we just have to either let people stale when they are going to be gone, set them to AI if they leave without coming up on the net, or make sure that everyone knows that if they will be leaving for a period that means they won't be able to play their turns the onus of finding a sub is on them (because it is or should be... this is getting rediculous). Ultimately I think this game will lose more players simply through inactivity then it will by sticking to that 48 hour (or even shifting to 72 hour) turns and not pausing the timer for every Tom, Dick and Harry who decides to leave for a week without finding a sub.

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I think we should just put the timer back on and let people stale, or set them AI, this is ridiculous.

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I have to admit to some frustration with all of the delays. I'm sorta stuck between putting the timer up now and ambushing echodyne with stales he didn't expect, but possibly to keep more people from disappearing, or at least waiting until he returns and having a stricter policy on delays starting then. As far as ragabash, I had hoped to get more info about the state of yomi for a sub thread, but evidently it is not to be.

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hmmm I can guess how many provinces he has sort of but I need to check. not a leading position but deffinately not a loosing one. Somewhere in the middle so there is still chance to get good allies and to get the game but it needs some work. If you said you'd give a delay then you should wait:). Otherwise you could be strickter in the future if you want to. I personally am fine with big delays since I might need them soon:)in 20ish days.

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Here is the thing though, if we wait a week for everyone who needs a week we'll still be playing this game two years from now. I needed two weeks last month and I got a sub. A game like this you have to be ruthless insofar as progress otherwise you don't get anywhere. If we don't start making more progress though I am going to have to leave the game. I wasn't anticipating this game lasting a year or two when I entered it in March due to a weeklong delay for anyone who asks, and I am willilng to bet that others are in teh same boat here.

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fair enough:) yea I was thinking of finding a sub if I needed more than a day or two delay.

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Ok, echodyne is setup to reappear today at the latest. No sub appeared for yomi, so I'm setting him to AI. Timer is going back up on 48 hours, and let's try to keep it there!

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Some more oddities on spells (all EDM ones) in this game, at least for me:
- when I cast awake Cyclops, my gems are used but no Cyclop in view! :-(
- Great Kraken is not listed in the castable spells

I remind that I could not find Zmeys and Rocs in the castable spells on my mages. When I summoned the Firebird, also nothing came, but since it is unique I just thought someone else had cast it before, now I doubt.

Did anyone summon any EDM guys??? Or did anyone have similar problems? Come on I am not the only one interested by EMD summons in this game, and it would be nice to understand what is happening.

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I've summoned krakens with no problems. The firebird isn't actually unique, so I'm not sure why it didn't appear.

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Admiral, actually I saw your kraken this turn ;)

More info on this bug: I am allowed to cast Curse of the Wendigo although I should not (I don't have the right level in thaumaturgy). When I go to "Magic", it is shown in dark gray at the right position (meaning I haven't reached it yet). And still, when I go "cast a spell", I am given the opportunity to cast it.

So I think there may be a wrong attribution of magic schools to EDM spells, for a reason I can't understand (I looked in the mod files and I don't see anything wrong). This would explain why I can cast Curse of the Wendigo, located in a school I have researched enough, but not Zmeys, located maybe in thaumaturgy. If this theory is true, zmey will unlock to me when I research the wrong school in which it is located.

Even if this is true, it does not explain why I did not get my Firebird (gosh it would have been useful against LA Ermor) and my Cyclop when I summoned them, although I got the gems spent... :mad:

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So many Krakens... it still hasn't saved your land territory!

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I think you won that one Admiral... but any more such victories will ruin you!

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Numahr, it sounds like your version of the mod is different to that on the server. I think your list of castable spells comes from the server, and comes in the form of spell numbers. So the server says "you are allowed to cast spells 1079, 1321 etc", and your client looks those up and says you are allowed to cast Curse of the Wendigo etc., even if you shouldn't be allowed to. The spell numbers are easily different between different versions of the mod - if a single spell has been added then all subsequent spells have their numbers shifted.

Having said all that I have no idea how you can have a different version of the mod. The only case where more than one version of a mod exists is the result of my recent hotfix for duplicate weapons with the latest dom3 patch, and I did not add any spells with the hotfix. Still, see if you can get a copy of the mod from one of the other players or something.

The True Firebird is unique Admiral. Or at least it is certainly meant to be!

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Oh, I bet you have a different version of CPCS. Not sure, but certainly worth checking.

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What do you guys think of CPCS by the way? I have been meaning to play some test games with it. I like the idea of the spells but haven't really tested them much. Is it fun?

hmmm strange thing. The last couple of turns I've been keeping quiet hoping that it will just go away but it didn't. It all started 3 turns ago when my army didn't execute a command to move. then the next turn both my armies didnt decide to move. So I decided that if something else happens I will mention it. Apparently I staled my current turn because I submitted an old 2h file? While still not crippling I lost quite a lot of potential (land) and time while my armies have just been looking at instead of obliterating the enemy's army while it has been springing around taking territories. So if anyone could take a look at that or I don't know what but I am loosing advantages hard fought for in a blink of an eye not due to my mistake or anything so that is quite annoying. Thanks in advance.

P.s on the CPCS topic Its early to say I havent been using many of the newer spells and as we heard some of them seem to have been bugged and others seem to have bugged the other non-CPCS spells so mixed feelings. I haven't seen anything potentially overpowering in it(with the little exception of the spell that casts luck and gives AN weapons to the weaker units(but the AN weapons didnt seem to be working from what I've heard so the spell should be fine:P)) which is a good sign:)

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Cool. You shouldn't rake away the message that CPCS causes bugs, cos it doesn't. However if you have a different version of any mod to the server, that will cause bugs.

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yea probably that's it. Hmm still I read somewhere in this topic about the astral weapons not working as they should be but I am in no way able to judge if that is so or not(since I havent seen the battle). Also I was just under that impression (lately I didn't have much time to read in the forum so my comment was based on the cases where people have been complaining about it)but I guess it is as you said due to outdated mod version.

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OK I will enquire along the lines mentioned by Llamabeast.

Regarding CPCS: I really like the concept. It adds a lot of depth and diversity to cambat magic, especially in that early/mid-game phase that has less diversity in combat spells. In terms of implementation, I have the following comments:
- some "fire" spells should be AP instead of AN, this is too important a difference (comment already made by someone)
- there is something wrong with "anger of god" which often gets cast by the AI although it is totally irrelevant, range-wise especially.

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Hurrah! Thanks Llamabeast. I checked the versions of my mod, and it turned out that my CBM 1.83 was different from the one attached to the first page of this thread. Go figure out why. Anyway I replaced it and I can now summon zemys and other niceties!

I wish I had found this much earlier though. How many gems did I loose in summons that did not appear, and well, my whole strategy up to this point would have been actually implemented instead of playing with vanilla summons only...

But the main point is, that there is no bug, and every thing is solved from that point of view.

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Well, with that I am finally finished. I confess that my mind hasn't been focused on Dom3 recently, but I really enjoyed the game and learned quite a bit. (Lesson #1: Enslaving your opponent's stuff is just great.) Good luck to those of you who remain.

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Dear comrades,

I have troubles coming on the RL front for this week. I will play the current turn in time; then I would request a delay until next Monday. Sorry for that and thanks in advance for your understanding...

Numahr

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This is a bit of a conundrum. While we did agree no more delays or whatever, numahr did get pretty screwed with the summon thing (even if it was ultimately his own fault, lol)...

Has anyone been around when the turn ends to see who's staling? I'm pretty sure EA ermor is... and jomon too? Anyone else?

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But if we are going to make exceptions for him, are we going to make exceptions for me in October when I am gone for two weeks? Or for everyone else when they are gone for a week or two at a time? I'd understand if it were Christmas or even Thanksgiving... but you can't just accomodate everyone, as you wind up losing players that way.

EA Ermor is staling... as his neighbor I can tell he stopped building anything a little while ago. Jomon has at least gone to the edge, though I don't share a border with him.

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He should try and find a sub or just stale.

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OK considering the feedback on my request, let's keep the pace, I will find the time to play my turns.

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Hi!

I would like to announce that im stopping playing this game. i have subbed in for a last-stand ermor, then switched to EA caelum to help avoid stales and let myself try them out. I was bored with that nation, and when i finally got to war with them I still havent felt the excitement to play. Since im going to a vacation again, its a good time to stop. thanks for the experience, and much fun to everyone!

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I have played my turn.

What is going to happen with Caelum? While I understand that our community is tired of delays, I don't really like the idea of turning Caelum AI at this point. Caelum is not a super power, but appears to be a reasonably strong nation after so many turns of undisturbed build-up - not a case that would normally qualify for AI control. Why not at least try to find a sub for a couple of days before letting Caelum stale or give it to AI?

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Perhaps a player who is currently on the edge would like to switch (Admiral, how about it? I don't think you have too much left, and you can see that you only bought a couple of turns at most given what I've got arrayed around your capital)?

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I'd be willing to do that, but I'd like to fight to the end as atlantis first.

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How long do you think you're gonna last as atlantis?

With the way sub threads have been going lately, I think it is unlikely I'll be able to find a sub, and more delays will probably kill this game. I'll probably have to start setting more people to AI, but I guess not caelum. Are there any other nations that have been staling?

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Probably a few more turns. There's two forts that he has to capture. I could take over for Caelum now, I wouldn't give myself gems or anything like that.