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Growltigga August 10th, 2002 01:00 AM

Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
 
I walk around saying 'bill bill bill', I also walk around sayig "good morning - that will be £3, good morning sir - that will be £5, you would like a meeting - that will be £10, you would like me to draft something - that will be £1,000". I also walk around saying "bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy", sometimes I walk around saying "look at the jugs on that bimbo". Most of the time I walk around saying "yes dear", "no darling" and "trap my fingers in the desk Sir William, I cannot wait until lunchtime"

how about we agree to in-game com screen only for the Galactic Bash??

[ August 09, 2002, 12:08: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

mac5732 August 10th, 2002 06:25 AM

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RD, in regards to your list, just contact Hadrian,in regards to TDM contact Mephisto, he's usually around or you could try the Mods section on the forum or the PBW sight for shipsets.

Mac snuggles under the blanket the Taz covered him with, curls up and continues to dream of Liz Hurly in his stupor state of contentment. Aahh Tesco, these new concrete floors on the Patio feel like mattresses... you did a find job on the remodel he mutters to himself as his oblivious mental facitlities continue to put him into LA LA land...... ahhh still another week left on vacation..... but Mrs M is off next week he mumbles,.... domestic chores coming up.... he growls to himself, but.. in the meantime... aaahhhh the facilitating aspects of dreamland while in an high state of unawareness except for ones mind creating excerts...

a groggy (hic) Mac

Raging Deadstar August 10th, 2002 09:58 PM

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Raging Deadstar finally returns (after no-one realised he'd gone) from his short excursion to which he had discovered an old wise man named pubert, his advice was "Fatherhood, it ruins your life!" an omen for tigga it may seem

Ahhhh Mac u lucky old dog. Domestic Chores??? I always go for a Last minute clean up myself, and more time playing PBW without people on the phone! No partners nagging about time u spend on SEIV. Ah well i'm eating chinese food and wondering why the hell did i try and convert a gas giants atmosphere to None? Maybe i wasn't thinking lol (*note* it doesn't work)

Sitting down at his now accustomed seat, the one at the back which gives a safe distance from mayhem, Raging Deadstar contemplates the future.
"Now when will i research master computers???? Instead of rely on that dam microsoft thing, that blue screen everytime i start up my dreadnought is really getting annoying...."

Atrocities August 11th, 2002 02:00 AM

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*****HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INFORMATION BULLETIN*****
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET NO. EZ36C-24-36
"WOMAN" A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS

Element: Woman
Symbol: Wo
Discoverer: Adam

Atomic mass: Accepted as 53.6 kg; may vary from 40-200 kg.
Occurrence: Copious quantities in all urban areas, concentrations noted in and around malls.

Physical properties:

1. Surface usually covered in painted film
2. Boils at nothing, freezes without any known reason
3. Melts if given special treatment
4. bitter if used incorrectly
5. Exists naturally in various states: ranges from virgin metal to common ore.
6. Yields to pressure at correct points
Chemical properties:
1. Has great affinity for gold, silver, and a range of precious stones
2. Absorbs great quantities of expensive substances
3. may explode spontaneously with no warning and for no reason
4. Insoluble in liquids, but activity increases greatly after saturation in alcohol
5. Most powerful money reducing agent known to man

Common uses:
1. Highly ornamental, particularly in sports cars
2. Can be a great aid in relaxation
3. Very effective cleaning agent

Tests:
1. Pure specimens turn rosy pink in their natural state
2. Turns green when placed besides a better specimen

Potential hazards:
1. Highly dangerous except in experienced hands
2. Illegal to possess more than one, although several can be maintained at different locations provided specimens do not come into direct contact with one another

****WARNING*************WARNING*************WARNIN G****
PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO THIS ELEMENT CAN CAUSE SEVERE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND FINANCIAL DAMAGE

Taz-in-Space August 11th, 2002 02:55 AM

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Darn, the warning label must have fallen off mine! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Raging Deadstar August 11th, 2002 10:53 PM

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Lol ur womens label fell of Taz? where do u keep it?, in the kitchen with other ingrediants? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Puke August 12th, 2002 12:31 AM

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ingrediants? what, were you planning on baking a pie? You keep her in a jar between the baking soda and the thyme?

warning lables are all well and good, but that ingrediant business is just distrubed.

Gryphin August 12th, 2002 12:40 PM

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Noticing a lack of post here. Hmm, looks like we have new competion opening. That thread by Ruatha seems to be taking our place. 3 pages in 2 days. GrowlTigga better do something.

Growltigga August 12th, 2002 12:50 PM

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Why should I do something? I cannot always be on hand to save the world and single-handedly fight off ravening hordes etc...

Ruatha's thread seem quite humorous, good for him.

At least it is not that bloody redneck linedancing saloon tosh that surfaced a month or so back!

Saxon August 12th, 2002 02:28 PM

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All,

I will be out of town from Thursday night until Wednesday morning, so my turn is likely to be delayed. I posted something on the game forum thread, but I am not sure how frequently that gets checked. In addition, I threw in some comments about displaying the score and so forth.

Going back a fair way, I did want to throw in my two bits about communications in the game. I am of the mind that as long as we stay in character and do not talk to people for whom we do not have a comm channel for, it is ok. Talking to people for whom you do not have the comm channel is a big no no, as trading for comm channels can be valuable business.

Also, anyone who attacks the Fluffy Bunnie Species Empire will have table service cut off at the Cantina. The Fluffy Bunnies have power, so I expect to receive the appropriate levels of respect and groveling.

Great One Buffy, speaking through her avatar Saxon

Growltigga August 12th, 2002 03:59 PM

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Tesco, I do not seem tohave access to the game forum - when I click on the icon, I get a message saying access not allowed

What is going on?

Saxon, enjoy your time out of town - gang, I will be away for 2 weeks from 25/8 to 8/9. What happens to my turns then? (I dont want AI to play them, it has taken me a couple of turns to reverse what it did Last time)

tesco samoa August 12th, 2002 04:13 PM

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the turns will change to Last player upload ....for vacations....

And talk to the pbw admins.... (GEO) to see what's up with your access to the game forum....

Growltigga August 12th, 2002 04:27 PM

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great, so what you are saying is 'n'owt will happen whilst I am away - yippee'

I have sent a PM to GEO asking him togive me access to the forums

Growltigga August 12th, 2002 04:27 PM

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OOPS duplicate post but whilst I am hear, I might as well serenade the lot of you with my famous Neil Sedaka medley...

'Mooon River' dum de dum de dum etc

[ August 12, 2002, 15:49: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

geoschmo August 12th, 2002 05:40 PM

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[Useless techno info]The Forum software is a seperate little piece of software that runs on the PBW server. When a new PBW user clicks onto the forums for the first time it creates a forum user id identical to the PBW user id that it uses whilst in the forums. Each game has it's own forum and list of Users that have access to it. When you join the game your forum userid is added to that list for that game forum. Every once in a while an eager new user will join PBW and sign up for a game before ever clicking on any of the general PBW forums. Because of this the forums have no user id to assign to the game forum user list and they can't be given access. So we have to go in and manually add them to the list afterwards. You can also withdraw from the game and rejoin after you have visited the main PBW forums once and it will give you access to the game forum, but it's not that big deal for us admins to do it manually.[/Useless techno info]

Geoschmo

Gryphin August 12th, 2002 07:35 PM

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GrowlTigga, I'll play your turns for you.
< Inocent Friendly Smile >

tesco samoa August 12th, 2002 08:29 PM

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Tiggia I just noticed that you will be away for 2 weeks... That is a long time to put the game on hold.... You will miss a grand total of 4 turns...

I suggest that you que up your ai and let it go... or get a replacement player for those 2 weeks...

We can dicuss it in greater detail in the game forum...

geoschmo August 12th, 2002 08:34 PM

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Tigga, I could run things for you. I think an hourly rate plus expenses for legal types as well as galactic emporers is customary is it not? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Geo

Growltigga August 12th, 2002 10:02 PM

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Geo, you might well be on for that. I need someone sensible to pursue the aims of the Growltigga Federation (to get drunk, to get naked and to lie in a great big pile) so send me a PM with cost, efficiency, charge out rate and next of kin and I shall take you on

Growltigga August 13th, 2002 02:15 PM

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Atrocities, you get free beer in the cantina for a month for having to endure such a immature and frankly, stupid flame attack like ManoWar's. One day he may get out of diapers and realise that. 'ManofWar'?, more like 'Fullo****'.

I like your sets (hell the Growltigga Federation is using your STNG set).

Ah, I see a problem in the cantina, tribbles DONT have wings but Taz said he would cure the rat problem for us.... haven't seen many rats around, oh yes I have, there is one and he is in a wheelchair, are you sure those are rat, I mean, tribble wings

Taz??? where is that hairy oaf when you need to chastise him?

Atrocities August 13th, 2002 05:11 PM

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Score One for the GOOD GUYS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And if Tribbles don't have wings, does that mean Chickens do not have nuggets? *Considered what he just ate with a very odd look*

[ August 13, 2002, 16:12: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Growltigga August 13th, 2002 05:16 PM

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Atrocities, dead right but score about a dozen for the arseholes of the world...

that threat, actual or not, to close down your site is just pathetic, absolutely bloody pathetic and really gets my feline blood boiling..

Manofwar, if you ever read this site, you are barred from the cantina without reprieve.

Atrocities, chickens do have nuggets but only 2 per chicken unfortunately... do you hear tyhat high pitched clucking out there?

tesco samoa August 13th, 2002 05:20 PM

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....any ways.... back to topic here...

Tesco sends in Decker to grab the discarded weapon on the floor.....

And wishes to inform everyone that Water based tramlopileeness, tramlapiliens are bad... for 32 year old kids.... As my back is imforming me at this moment

dogscoff August 13th, 2002 05:41 PM

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Quote:

....any ways.... back to topic here...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG, we have a topic? The CANTINA has a TOPIC?

*Dogscoff runs screaming from the Cantina, tearing his hair.

geoschmo August 13th, 2002 05:47 PM

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No, no D. Calm down. He meant, uh "TROPIC". Yeah that's it. He meant "Back to Tropic". Everybody knows the catina is located on a very warm tropical planet. Lot's of sun sand and skimpy clothed waitresses.

Growltigga August 13th, 2002 05:47 PM

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HERESY

Tesco, the cantina does NOT HAVE A TOPIC OTHER THAN CHILLING OUT AND CARTOON MAYHEM....

Growltigga orders FBW to sweep up Dogscoff's hair and listens with delight as Dogscoff meets the tyrannosaur Growltigga accidently left out in the carpark

Atrocities August 13th, 2002 05:54 PM

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My site was splashed once already because of hateful alligations from someone. Since that time, I have done everything I can to keep the site within Angle Fires guidelines. If he is successful in getting my site spashed a second time, I will not re-open it. It simply is too much work to go through again. *I am getting dizzy*

I have been up all night hoping that he would post again, and he has. I now know what I am up against, and quite frankly, I don't care. If this guy wants my arse so bad, then he can take his bites, and move on. Hopefully he'll get board and leave.

Thanks for the support guys. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

So if cows Nuggets are called Rocky Mountain Osters, then Chicken nuggets must be called Smoky Moutain Osters. *I think I'll go with the Rat wings.* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ August 13, 2002, 16:57: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

dogscoff August 13th, 2002 06:02 PM

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I know freebie sites like Anglefire can be paranoid about stuff like litigation, but I feel sure they would appreciate that it a case of hysterical sciffy versus sensible and law-abiding website owner.

If you do get closed down (you won't, but) couldn't you just open up another account with another freebie provider and re-upload the files? Surely you have them backed up? I mean it would be a pain to get everyone to update their links and to open a new account and everything, but it's not like building the whole site from new. Or is it?

Barkeep: Beer & Tyrannosaurburgers all round.

Growltigga August 13th, 2002 06:08 PM

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Atrocities, I consider it to be extremely unlikley that Angelfire will close you down.. you are making the appropriate statements as to whom the copyright belongs to so I cannot see that paramount would frankly waste time... also, Dogscoff is right when he says you should resurrect your site somewhere else, the rest of the public should have access to your excellent ship sets...

Growltigga, annoyed that his tyrannosaur fails to scoff El Scoffo, pulls out his trusty cricket bat, and dings Dogscoff round the bonce very very hard.....

tesco samoa August 13th, 2002 06:23 PM

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as posted

....any ways.... back to topic here...

Satire..... That is all it was....

Atrocities August 13th, 2002 06:30 PM

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If I have posted this before, please forgive me.

This was emailed to me a few weeks ago. I found it slightly discomforting as it seem a tad over the top. But then I realized that the author was trying to make a point. We should not judge people on face value for we really may not have a clue as to why they do the sometimes horrible things they do.

Quote:

Arab Suicide????

Everyone seems to be wondering why the Arab terrorists are so quick to commit suicide? Let's see now:

No booze. No bars. No television. No Internet. No organized sports, stadiums, tailgate parties. (Actually, no tailgates.) No Hooters.

No meat from a pig. Sand everywhere and not a dune buggy insight. Ever try to fish at an oasis?

Rags for clothes and hats. Eating only with your right hand cause you wipe only with your left. (Like life isn't complicated enough already.)

Constant wailing from the guy next door because he is sick and no doctors. No music. No radio. You can't shave. You can't shower.

Bar-B-Q donkey cooked over burning camel dung. The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times. Your bride is picked by someone else.

Oh, and then they tell you that when you die it all gets better! Who wouldn't go for it?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

[ August 14, 2002, 02:19: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Raging Deadstar August 13th, 2002 07:24 PM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif lol 1 day i don't read the forums and i got 2 pages of cantina Posts to read? hmmm *skims atrocities Posts* hmmm no wonder, no tv or drink, No SEIV!!!!! The horrors they go through, lol atrocities I learned first hand what that warning sheet on women meant a few days ago! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif post em more often so i don't forget

RD smiles before looking outside, trying hard not to focus on the t-rex. *Prods GT* Ummm isn't that a health inspector!! *panic ensures* taz better clean up. I don't think a dinosaur would eat health inspectors!

Also does anyone know of any Stargate sg1 shipstyles like the asguard (got a goa'uld one)?? I'm not really a sci-fi fan but i like sg1 for sum reason *bets he gets attacked for this*

[ August 13, 2002, 18:32: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

Puke August 13th, 2002 09:11 PM

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puke picks up a trible and inspects it for wings. he then looks quizically at his plate of buffalo wings, and decides its better not to ask.

"bush, dick, and colin, huh? sounds like a sticky situation."

Raging Deadstar August 13th, 2002 11:02 PM

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It's never wise to question what foods made out of. Last time i did i discovered Chicken Nuggets are made out of Chicken feet and french fries are made out of Powdered potato.

*hopes that taz hasn't been cooking tribles or that health inspector maybe squeamish*

Puke August 14th, 2002 01:07 AM

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heh.. i just read an article Last week about a food processing facility in Asia being closed down because workers were using their teeth to bone chicken feet. that was just the fastest way to do it, like having a third hand.

mmmm... mc nuggets.

dogscoff August 14th, 2002 01:13 AM

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*Dogscoff walks into the Cantina. "What's that big smoldering heap in the corner?" On closer examination it turns out to be Atrocities, who has just been bLasted by the mighty Star Trek Canon Cannon. Dogscoff looks closer still and sees that Atrocities is chuckling quietly to himself, and that the horrific- looking burns are completely superficial. Dogscoff buys him a beer and a plate of Tribble wings before putting a William Shatner album on continuous loop on the jukebox...

Atrocities August 14th, 2002 01:20 AM

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Atrocities accepts this free beer and has a nice drink with DS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have been flamed so many times on so many forums that it just doesn't matter any more. MoW is like so many other Trek Uber Nerds that to fight with him about cannon or not is pointless. They are like one minded Borg Drones. Resistance is futile. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

"Thank you, I'll have another."

Those Triblit Wings are most tasty. However, Klingons seem to find them unappealing. I wonder why? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 13, 2002, 12:22: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

dogscoff August 14th, 2002 01:47 AM

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*Dogscoff takes the Star Trek Canon Cannon and throws it down onto the floor, challenging anyone to pick it up.

"Come on, someone try to tell me that tribbles don't have wings. Come on, just try it..."

Atrocities August 14th, 2002 01:53 AM

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They also taste like Chicken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa August 14th, 2002 03:40 AM

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Hey AT imagine living at 3rd mile in Detroit. near i96... I am sure it is just as bad.

CNCRaymond August 14th, 2002 03:46 AM

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I was reading the news at http://msn.com.com/2100-1107-949331.html and came acrossed this story. My take on this is that it scares the hell out of me. Read it and see for your self. I especially love the part where they simply don’t care. Perhaps if we took away some of their rights, then maybe they would care.

Quote:

WASHINGTON--There's a lot for a politically aware geek to be alarmed about nowadays.

Big companies are wielding copyright threats to stifle legitimate security research. Hollywood is itching to hack your PC. Your privacy is vanishing as fast as Al Gore's 2004 presidential hopes. And the merry band of technophobes in Congress is just getting started.

Too often, though, programmers, system administrators, and other IT pros become understandably outraged by the latest attempts to restrict technology--and react by doing precisely the wrong thing. They set up irate web sites, launch Online petition drives, and tell all their friends to write their congressional representatives.

Here's the bitter truth: These efforts are mostly a waste of time. Sure, they may make you feel better, but they're not the way to win.

Take the widely reviled Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Even though Slashdotters have spent years buzzing around in circles over DMCA lawsuits brought by the Justice Department against Dmitry Sklyarov and the big movie studios against 2600 magazine, Congress simply doesn't care.

Rep. Howard Coble, R-N.C., chairman of the House Judiciary subcommittee on intellectual property, says the law is "performing the way we hoped." No bill has been introduced in Congress to rescind the DMCA for one simple reason: Official Washington loves the law precisely as much as hackers and programmers despise it. Some of Washington's most powerful insiders even gathered in May to toast the DMCA with raised glasses of champagne.
Things aren't getting better. The House of Representatives voted 385-3 Last month to approve life prison sentences for malicious computer hackers. The Senate approved the USA Patriot Act, which expanded police ability to perform Internet surveillance without a court order, by a 98-1 vote Last fall.

Trust me, a few--even a few thousand--peeved e-mail Messages won't change vote totals that lopsided. (Did you know the Senate approved the DMCA unanimously?) Washington's political class is used to ignoring frenzied yowls from far more organized and well-funded Groups than geektivists can hope to emulate anytime soon.
Instead, technologists should be doing what comes naturally: inventing technology that outpaces the law and could even make new laws irrelevant.

"They're much better off doing what they do best, writing code," says Sonia Arrison of the Pacific Research Institute, a free-market think tank in San Francisco. "That's where their competitive advantage lies."
Put another way, who made a bigger difference: Yet another letter-scribbling activist or Phil Zimmermann, who wrote the Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) encryption software? How about Sean Fanning, who created Napster? Or the veterans of the Internet Engineering Task Force, which oversees the fundamental protocols of the Internet?
It's true that such an approach isn't for everyone. Tech companies, of course, need to take a defensive stance. "There's a difference between geeks and the technology industry," Arrison says. "I wouldn't say it's wise for the technology industry to ignore government. But individual tech people are probably better off spending their energy writing code than being part of the political process."

Adam Back, an encryption researcher living in Canada, says that he tries to ignore day-to-day developments in the news. "What's the point?" Back asks. "You know whatever they are working on will be pretty much exclusively damaging to Net freedoms and personal liberty. New laws are almost exclusively damaging to personal freedoms these days."

"By participating in the lobby process, you're effectively giving money to the political system," Back says. "It's effectively a favor-trading system where the politician wins and the geek loses...You're better of spending time writing code and influencing Internet protocols to work towards making the politicians irrelevant in the future."
That's the motto of the Cypherpunks, a group of programmers-turned-activists who first met in Silicon Valley a decade ago and graced the second cover of Wired magazine. They recognized that technology is a more effective tool than the political process to stop governments from overreaching. (An example: Unlike Supreme Court justices who may change their views on privacy, the algorithms embedded in encryption software won't stop working because of political pressure.)
Lance Cottrell is a former Cypherpunk who founded Anonymizer.com, a San Diego company that announced an improved fee-based anonymous browsing service Last week.

"I'm of two minds," Cottrell says. "On one hand, I think it's important that the (technologist) perspective be aired. But I think that rather few geeks are temperamentally suited for lobbying. I think there's a cultural tendency toward bluntness and directness, which is not the bread and butter of politics."

Before starting his company, Cottrell wrote the free mixmaster software that allows Users to send e-mail anonymously." People can sit around saying, 'Is it a good idea to have anonymity or not?'" Cottrell said. "But if you actually implement it, you can say, 'How do you want to deal with this reality?' It's not that my writing the code created the reality. The possibility was always there. But my writing the code made it impossible to ignore."
Declan McCullagh is the Washington correspondent for CNET News.com, chronicling the ever-busier intersection between technology and politics. Before that, he worked for several years as Washington bureau chief for Wired News. He has also worked as a reporter for The Netly News, Time magazine and HotWired.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When they passes these new laws, that will be the time that I log off the net for good. No reason to have the internet if it is a free ticket to snoop and spy on me. Hell I get that enough already from the god damned IRS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[ August 14, 2002, 02:48: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

CNCRaymond August 14th, 2002 03:55 AM

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I just finished reading most of the Posts in the Star Trek Races thread. I agree with him, Atrocities sets suck! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif J/k

Personally I like the work you have done. I love knowning that I can play as one of 2o or more Trek races and not be bothered with ugly ships that seem ugly. I hope you finish the Last ship set up and release it soon. The Nelix one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

(Nelix the cat, he was a big fat cat)

Any ways on to bigger and better things. BARTENDER!!!! A pint of your worst if you please!

Taz-in-Space August 14th, 2002 05:33 AM

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Quote:

Taz??? where is that hairy oaf when you need to chastise him?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...Now wait Boss, you never said NOT to serve ra...Ahh Tribble wings. And I did solve our rat problem. (all but the two leg variety!)
Besides I figgered that OUR customers would never know the difference!
Quote:

So if COWS Nuggets are called Rocky Mountain Osters
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">See what I mean??

...well I better get back to work now...
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BARTENDER!!!! A pint of your worst if you please!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Here you go sir, an Iron City Coors Lite! (half Iron City - a Pittsburgh brew - and half Coors Lite!) We serve only the finest of the worst http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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hopes that taz hasn't been cooking tribles or that health inspector maybe squeamish
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ME harm a loveable real tribble? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
NEVER!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Ragnarok August 14th, 2002 06:03 AM

Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
 
*Ragnarok walks into the cantina, looks around at the half drunk folks in the room and says, "Hey, bartender, give me a shot of something, make it strong, I've had a long day, I'll be in the corner booth when it's ready." Walks over to booth and looks at the feet on his table, grabs them and shoves them off, sits down and lays back, starts to doze off.*

Taz-in-Space August 14th, 2002 06:08 AM

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Hey, bartender, give me a shot of something, make it strong, I've had a long day, I'll be in the corner booth when it's ready.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...Taz quickly prepares a shot of 151 Rum, adds a dash MORE alcohol, and gives it to a FBW to serve...

Strong enough? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Saxon August 14th, 2002 08:57 AM

Re: Ye New Galactic Bar & Grill & Phong\'s Head Cantina - After Hours
 
Some things need to face the public light of truth and Tigga's false claims shall melt like a vampire in the dawn.

One can not read your racial specs as one has not yet met your flea infested race. However, what you list is clearly propaganda. Zero gravity breasts demonstrate chests so flat that gravity can find nothing to effect, leggy blondes indicate that your empire is so organics poor that it can not feed its people and latin love goddesses always turn into old Italian widows wearing black and needing a shave. You may trust that the Fluffy Bunnie Empire will ensure that you have a nation of war widows.

-----Original Message-----
From: Growltigga
Subject: RE: [SEIV PBW] News for game: The Galactic Bash

in your dreams, read the racial specs for the Growltigga Alliance, our woman
are latin lovegoddesses or leggy blondes with zero gravity breasts

there is nothing a hairy candian moose kissing person like you can teach us
about top totty

Growltigga August 14th, 2002 09:04 AM

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Taz, oh Taz, I have just been into the kitchen and we now we seem to have a cockroach problem. Please solve it

Guys, I should not touch the Thai spiced crunchy coated satay prawn canapes if I were you from now on.

Guys, dont worry about the health inspector, the T-Rex may be off his stride after he was assaulted by Scoffo, but I am happy to say that my latest elite squad of killer mongoose are trained, raring to go and have only been fed 1 yoghurt each per day...

M Inspecteur de Santé, au revoir mon ami, un endroit agréable vous attend

[ August 14, 2002, 10:44: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

Growltigga August 14th, 2002 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Saxon:
Zero gravity breasts demonstrate chests so flat that gravity can find nothing to effect, leggy blondes indicate that your empire is so organics poor that it can not feed its people and latin love goddesses always turn into old Italian widows wearing black and needing a shave.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There speaketh a man desparetely in need of female company.

Saxon, in case you have forgotten,ZGB are those large ones that seem to stand up pertly on their own with no visible support, "leggy" as in having rather nice long legs and "latin" refers in the modern parlance to more south american than italian.. no wonder you are a sad lonely old man resorting to abusing animals if this is your understanding of the female form

Saxon August 14th, 2002 09:10 AM

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Some of the cartoon attacks around here have crept onto my computer and SEIV refused to run Last night. This has made all my concerns about getting the new patch moot, I have to get it and the new one, as I will be re-installing the game on another computer. A big thank you to Dogscoff for teaching me about multi-disk scanning, which will let me get around my eveil IT man. As a thank you to Dogscof, I will be sending a nude photo of my favorite moose to Tigga.

Growltigga August 14th, 2002 09:43 AM

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Saxon, that is so sad, I will just send you a picture of a beautiful lady


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