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Septimius Severus December 20th, 2009 04:41 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Originally, I was going to turn off the timer for 3 days over Christmas and 2 days over New Years, but frankly that might be alot of work for Gandalf so I figured we'd just let people choose an option and go with it for the whole period. Less work that way. If you'd prefer I stick with that original plan, that can be done as well.

Look, all I am saying is cast your votes. Lets hear what everyone thinks. To answer Chris' question, in the unlikely event the vote should come to 8 to 5 in favor of remaining on schedule, I would make a judgement call (since finding 5 subs might be quite difficult) and likely choose the 72 hour option. That way I give the majority what they want, but also give the 5 extra time to get their turns in. Everyone's happy.

I must say, I have to tip my hat to Chris. He's got the energy of a noob, the courage of Algae Nymph, and the wisdom of the good doctor. What gumption! What moxy! What gaul! Chris, I must have you for co-admin in game 2. And I encourage you all to keep the free flow of ideas and debate going (keeps our thread on top) :).

So let me clarify for everyone before you make your decisions (some already have). When I speak of turning off the hosting timer that means we will be effectively running on quickhost/fasthost only. In other words, the game will only host if everyone get's their turns in. It is NOT the same as turning off quickhost/fasthost which only means that hosting will proceed exactly at 48 or 56 hours, or whatever the interval is. Regardless of how fast turns come in. I apologize if anyway has been confused over my wording. I personally will be fine with any of the 4 options, though I lean toward the 72 hour interval over the entire holiday period mentioned to ensure at least some turns get in. But that is just me.:D

Illuminated One December 20th, 2009 05:04 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Can I get a delay for the next turn (about 10h)? I have some computer problems and I probably won't get around to fix them before tomorrow evening.

Also this will be the last day that I can play a turn, so however you decide do it quick please. I'm fine with a sub as I said, but once I'm gone, I'm gone, that is if the snowstorm doesn't stop me.

Septimius Severus December 20th, 2009 05:14 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Illuminated One (Post 722749)
Can I get a delay for the next turn (about 10h)? I have some computer problems and I probably won't get around to fix them before tomorrow evening.

Illuminated, see my PM, I am not sure whether you mean the current turn or 'next turn' like you said. If you are the only one leaving this early, you'll need a sub.

rdonj December 20th, 2009 07:39 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Pretty sure he means this turn.

Maerlande December 21st, 2009 02:23 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Let me ask you this by contrast, suppose 14 players vote against any delays, is it really fair to hold up the game for 2 players?
Absolutly ****ing yes!!!

This god damn game took two ****ing months to even start. Who gives a flying **** about two or six or twenty days delay? Mostly because it took you that long to learn what hosting required and to fart around figuring out how AI's work.

I can't believe we need a goddamn poll to figure out that people might want a break a Christmas.

Most of us play more than one game Sept. And we don't test our damn strategies in a team game.

chrispedersen December 21st, 2009 02:33 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Can we turn off quick host for this turn? One of my teammates submitted an erroneous turn, and I'd like to make sure he has time to correct it (ie., that the game doesn't quick host on him).


(Asked with 12 hours till hosting).

Septimius Severus December 21st, 2009 02:48 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerlande (Post 722775)
Quote:

Let me ask you this by contrast, suppose 14 players vote against any delays, is it really fair to hold up the game for 2 players?
Absolutly ****ing yes!!!

This god damn game took two ****ing months to even start. Who gives a flying **** about two or six or twenty days delay? Mostly because it took you that long to learn what hosting required and to fart around figuring out how AI's work.

I can't believe we need a goddamn poll to figure out that people might want a break a Christmas.

Most of us play more than one game Sept. And we don't test our damn strategies in a team game.

The point is Maerlande, this is your game, it is Viccio's game, it belongs to all the players, to everyone who waited 2 months to play, to everyone who is playing now. It can be handled several ways, I want to make sure everyone knows what the options are and has a chance to decide. This is not a dictatorship, nor an oligarchy!

If you have issues with the way I run my games or have done so in the past that is your right, but please don't tell everyone else what they must or must not do, especially myself. And players, don't let "custom", one or two other players, or anyone else tell you how the game should proceed or be run.

In reality, as I've stated, the question is not really whether a break is implemented but how it can be done. I've provided the option for continuing on schedule to attempt to be fair to all players, but as I stated I am confident that players will vote for a delay in some form or other. Llamaserver based games cannot shut off the hosting timer from the admin page, so to tell people that everyone is doing that is simply incorrect. Our game is a bit unique due to the hosting platform in that regard.

Septimius Severus December 21st, 2009 03:08 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Chris, I've received your request to shut off the quickhost this turn. I hadn't received a response to my PM attempting to clarify Illuminated's request that I sent to DrP and Illum. In the absence of a clarification, I am asking Gandalf for a 10 hour delay on the current turn, so your player should have plenty of time to resubmit.

I will be shutting down the polls tommorow. Please get your vote in if you have not already done so on the 2 questions at hand.

Maerlande December 21st, 2009 03:20 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
Naw, it's not my game. I want out. Fast!

Maerlande December 21st, 2009 03:46 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 
The Mysterios need alternates to step forward.

We are looking for Tam-Lin and Some1Lost if still willing to take the place of us tired old farts.


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