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Arryn September 16th, 2004 03:30 PM

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tinkthank said:
I normally don't mind that fact that I am ignored, but at least grant me opinionatedness and logic!

No. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

archaeolept September 16th, 2004 03:34 PM

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Strategic Command is more like the classic A-H pretzel wargame, "Hitler's War". I found it pretty enjoyable, precisely because it wasn't insane like HoI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Boron September 16th, 2004 04:19 PM

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archaeolept said:
Strategic Command is more like the classic A-H pretzel wargame, "Hitler's War". I found it pretty enjoyable, precisely because it wasn't insane like HoI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I downloaded the demo . Looks like a panzer general with resources .
Strategic command 2 maybe nice , exactly in between the too simple axis&allies and between Hoi/Hoi 2 .


I downloaded the demo to Combat mission AK really nice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Now downloading the Barbarossa demo with the slight hope that there a Tiger or panther or JS tank is included http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cainehill September 16th, 2004 04:38 PM

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tinkthank said:
I normally don't mind that fact that I am ignored, but at least grant me opinionatedness and logic!

Okay, but .... Who are you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Vicious Love September 16th, 2004 05:37 PM

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This is a tad belated, but welcome back. Erm, w00t

Zen September 16th, 2004 06:02 PM

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Boron said:
It is costy but don't you think it is worth it ?

That doesn't include the actual costs, which are bloated to about 150-200% of that number due to the longstanding contracts with Lockheed/Boeing. For maintaining world superiority in aircraft? It's worth it IMO, but having pilots who cannot get enough flight time to maintain their flight status because of the decripitude of Naval and AFC aircraft is more concerning to me as a 'worth' factor.

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The only Fighter which could perhaps beat a F-22 Raptor would have been the Mig 1.44 but unless they get financial aid from e.g. China they won't probably develop it further .

I highly doubt it, even during the engineering phase of the Mig 1.44 it had too many stress fractures in it's engines during upper G's which while not indicitive of anything (these things can be worked out) it put the publicity setbacks show that that particular development team doesn't have the funding/talent/history to produce an aircraft of the same caliber. Though wars are not won by high tech aircraft alone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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And what is your opinion about the Joint Strike Fighter ?

Functional, bugetable, maintainable and for it's purpose, everything it should be.

Stormbinder September 16th, 2004 06:38 PM

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Boron said:
Battlefront , the publisher of your mentioned combat mission series has a game called Strategic command too and now develops a sucessor .
Did you play this game too Stormbinder or anyone else ?

Nope, I didn't Boron. I've read reviews of it though, and lurked on thier forums a little bit when it came out. From what I've heard and read it seem to be a decent game but it didn't strike me as something that I have to buy.

And btw Battlefront is just a publisher for the Strategic Command, the guy who had developed it (and who is developing SC2) had nothing to do with Comabat Missions seria.

Boron September 16th, 2004 07:01 PM

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Who is the developer from Combat Mission series ?
And do you know if there is any difference between the german Version and the us Version ( censorship ? ) .
Strangely in germany CDV sells it but there is no info who the developer of Combat mission is on their homepage .


I am intending to buy first combat mission 2 because it is lowprice already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .
I don't know if i should buy combat mission 1 but i will buy combat mission 3 sooner or later too .
Probably combat mission 2 fits my taste most though because i like the russian + german tanks most http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Stormbinder September 16th, 2004 08:01 PM

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Boron said:
Who is the developer from Combat Mission series ?
And do you know if there is any difference between the german Version and the us Version ( censorship ? ) .
Strangely in germany CDV sells it but there is no info who the developer of Combat mission is on their homepage .


I am intending to buy first combat mission 2 because it is lowprice already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .
I don't know if i should buy combat mission 1 but i will buy combat mission 3 sooner or later too .
Probably combat mission 2 fits my taste most though because i like the russian + german tanks most http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Yes, I think there is. Something to do with Nazi symbolic being illigal in Germany. IIRC I've heard something along these lines on the Battlefront's forums, but I don't remember any details.

As to which game to buy - I would suggest buying just buying CM2 and it's expansion - African Korps, and not spending your time and money on CM1, at least for now. Don't get me wrong, CM1 was a great game, but CM2 is very similar in terms of gameplay and have nothing but hundreds of sbtle and not so subtle improvements over CM1. A lot of scenarios from CM1 were adopted for CM2 as well by fans. With AK expansion it also gives you access to wide range of nations in addition to russians and germans in "Barabarossa to Berlin".

Have fun!


P.S. And yes, german and russian tanks were undoubtfully the best in WW2. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Boron September 16th, 2004 08:05 PM

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Thnx again Stormbinder .
So Afrika Corps is an expansion only ?
On amazon.de ( the german amazon ) it is sold for 45 � as Combat Mission 3 AK while combat mission 2 is sold for ~10� .

One other question : In the combat mission demos from battlefield.com there is no blood to see anywhere but only AK demo is in german . So is this the same with the Us Version too or is blood perhaps in the european Version deactivated too ?


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