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Hey, the Terrans/Federation didn't actually clue in to the fact that command staff should not be on the front lines until after TOS http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>When I heard that line:
"can we use the transporters "<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Everybody should probably assume that the transporter won't work.
IE: the question "The transporter won't work down there, will it?"
"Of course not!"
"The Last time we beamed somebody up from a planet, he had leaves stuck in him; this time he's sitting on rocks. I don't think so."

IMO, it looks like they can barely get the beam through an atmosphere (wind -&gt; turbulence -&gt; bad). The space station in ep1 was sitting in a nice calm area, and its hull is not terribly deep, dense or irregular (with all the docked pods blown away).

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maverick:
... and it's usually better to just let the writers explain it.

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sure it is, unless you want it to make any sense.

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This show gave a hint on one of the rules that the fed is later based on. When archer wanted to knock out the novians and the transport them back to the ship then try to convice them to return to earth. Ta'pol pointed out that the novian way of live would be lost and that was not right. They then decided to help them relocate to a safe spot on the planet.

the makings of a fed rule.......

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Ah but we have to be passionate about one thing in life. I just happened to pick Star Trek.

Oh and Beer, music and .............
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I prefer a nice Stout or Porter on a brisk fall day. Of course, the Sam Addams radio commercials remind me of FDR style fire-side chats, and since Sams is something of a staple thats decent and easy to find everywhere (around here, anyhow) and as such is easily identifyable in the light of the FDR analogy.

As for startrek, i prefer the Cisko - Woof - Martok trio when they were are all about kicking *** and taking names. throw in a sprinkling of Dax, and a dash of ferangi humor, and you have your self a very good season of trek. of course, you have to reflect back on Kirk and crew in a warm, nostolgic light and view the shows as entertainment, not as serious SF: "Brain, Brain! What is Brain?!"

I sort of resent TNG, because even though everyone watched it and liked it at the time, it obviously was very silly and most people only liked it because a 25 year gap in televised science fiction forced them to like anything trekish that poped up on the idiot box.

now, with the wider variety of programming, and the higher availability of recorded movies both via DVD and cable/satilite services, i feel less confined and less 'forced' to enjoy trek, and i feel very comfortable disliking both voyager and the new seriese. and a solid 50% of DS9. and in retrospect, a solid 60% of TNG.

in comparison, i have strongly disliked about 10% of Space: Above and Beyond, 5% of Bab5, and out of the 20 or so episodes that i have seen, 0% of Farscape. thus, it is safe to say that paramount is loosing my interest with trek. I even like Andromeda better than the Lastest trek series, and thats bad.

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Funny. I never ever argue about stuff.

But Star trek does it for me everytime.

Here I am complaining about a night time soap.

Makes me think of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons ESP. Halloween Neutron Bomb

'Oh, I have wasted my life.'

Ah but we have to be passionate about one thing in life. I just happened to pick Star Trek.

Oh and Beer, music and .............

Later

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The vulcans are turning out to be not so nice and I am starting to see them as being very sneaking.

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Did anyone else have the Last episode (visit to a Vulcan retreat center) figured out by half-way through?

I thought this episode had a lot of potential: overall a good idea, and some memorable scenes (e.g., humans stink, Archer's "important information") But the path from start to finish was very simplistic and predictable. And elements of it were not believeable. I mean, the Andorians had all kinds of sensors, but couldn't detect extensive catacombs or old-fashioned radio signals??? Gimme a break! And then at the end, Archer hands over top-secret info on Earth's Vulcan allies to another group that he knows nothing good about, without checking with headquarters or doing anything to try to salvage Vulcan's reputation. I was expecting him at the least to hand all the weapons to T'Pal so she could prove her loyalty to Archer and the basic honor of ordinary Vulcans to the Andorians. Then they could have had some closing dialogue like:
T'Pal: How did you know I wouldn't kill you to protect my government?
Archer: I didn't. I just trusted you.
T'Pal: That is not logical.
Archer: We have a 5-year mission ahead of us. If I can't trust you, I may as well find out now.
T'Pal: There is some logic in that. But you still stink.

And why is it that no one on Enterprise seems to have studied the Vulcans' database? The Andorians are the Vulcans' nearest neighbors, and have recently been at war with them, and the Feds don't even recognize them. Hello???? They're violent blue humanoids with blond hair and antennae! I recognized them from a single episode of STTOS, and I'm not even a dyed-in-the-wool Trekkie. Didn't anyone on that ship get a passing grade in Interstellar Diplomacy 101?

Overall, I still enjoyed it, but felt that a little thought would have made it a LOT better.

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ahh puke we must have been seperated at birth.

History documentaries endings have more surprise than the latest Trek.

This weeks esp. I watched it not thinking trek.trek.trek.

It was ok.

Nothing worse than the first season of Bab5. But nothing better either.

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But always remember the more u hate Trek. Star wars wins. And we do not want that.

Maybe Lucas is the real producer behind Enterprise.
The big 3 'stars' are growing on me.

Good interaction between Tucker, Archer and T'Pol.

Nice seeing Geoffry Combs Last night. (sorry if I mangled his name )

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I liked this past episode, but I had my complaints. Most of all, this is all hanging on my Trek-fan bias towards Vulcans. Spock was my all-time favorite among the originals, and still pretty much at the top now.

I find it hard to believe that the Vulcans could have a centuries-long (by TOS timeline) reputation for honesty when there is this flat-out lie. On top of that, sure the guy was a monk (perhaps not), but how does Archer take him out with an elbow? Of course Kirk could do it, but no one can deliver the double axehandle punch like him...or the running drop kick.

Great show..I'll still be watching!! I do like how the humans seem somewhat clumsy and goofy at times.