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Re: OOB 066 Sweden [WIP]
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Re: OOB 066 Sweden [WIP]
Swedish APCs:
Swedish defence forces (Försvarsmakten) finally have informative pages about the equipment. One thing I noticed is that the Patria APCs (XA-180, Patgb 203A, Ptgb 360 AMV) all have a carry capacity of 12 each where as Försvarsmakten lists 3 crew (driver, commander and gunner) and 7 (203A) or 8 (360 AMV) troops to transport[1][2]. However the formations where these are used would need adjusting as well because the formations are built on the capacity of 12 passengers / vehicle. The carry capacity issue is not included in the modifications below. Patgb 360 AMV The main thing however is the Patgb 360 AMV weapons: Försvarsmakten lists following options: Quote:
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As far as I have been able to investigate, the turret is the same version or newer than the one in Finnish Patria 360 AMV. The numbers below are copied from Finnish version. Listed weight [1] is 28-30 tons. MODIFY Unit 067 - Patgb 360 AMV Stabiliser: 5 Fire control: 20 Range finder: 22 Weight: 28 Should weapon 051 be made autocannon class or copied to one with that class as 360 AMV can target helicopters? (Griffon 8100TD hovercraft is the only other vehicle using that weapon) ADD Copy of unit 067 - Patgb 360 AMV Radio: 91 Weapon 1: 021 - 40mm Mk19 GL Stabiliser: 5 Fire control: 20 Range finder: 22 Weight: 28 ADD Copy of unit 067 - Patgb 360 AMV Radio: 91 Weapon 1: 122 - Ksp 58 CMG Stabiliser: 5 Fire control: 20 Range finder: 22 Weight: 28 Ksp90 (SAW) may also be added but I can't see much added value in the game for including that. REMOVE Unit 070 - AMV Patria IFV Unit 354 - AMV Patria TOW AFAIK these 30mm autocannon versions are only prototypes offered to Sweden, not purchased. No references anywhere on Swedish military pages. About RWS:[2] Quote:
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An upgrade from Patgb 203 A[3] Quote:
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MODIFY: 062 - Patgb 203 A End date: 12/119 EW: 4 Weight: 19 ADD: Patgb 203 B, three versions Copy of unit 062 - Patgb 203 A Start date: 1/117 Radio: 90 Vision: 40 Weapon 1: 021 - 40mm Mk19 GL or Weapon 1: 051 - 12.7mm M2HB HMG or Weapon 1: 122 - Ksp 58 CMG Stabiliser: 5 Fire control: 20 Range finder: 22 Weight: 19 [1]https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/information-och-fakta/materiel-och-teknik/mark/pansarterrangbil-360/ [2]https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:541327/FULLTEXT01.pdf p. 24 [3]http://soff.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/150203-Arm%C3%A9.pdf p. 64-66 [4]https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/information-och-fakta/materiel-och-teknik/mark/pansarterrangbil-203-a/ |
Re: OOB 066 Sweden [WIP]
Been doing some work on my own OOB66.
I'd like some suggestions on a small problem I have: Back in the day (early 1960s) there was a local defence battalion organisation called Cykelskyttebataljon 61 ("Bicyle Rifle Bn 61"). The rifle company HQ section of this organisation included a 'sharpshooter patrol' that doubled as a 'observation patrol'. Normally Forward Observers in Sweden are termed E-ledare, so I'm guessing this sharpshooter/observation patrol was more of a recon asset. It was 4 man strong. I thought I would make a 4 man recon team to represent this type of unit. What would be a resonable weapon configuration/ammo loadout for such a unit be? Also how many points should such a unit cost? I don't know exaclty what type of weapons, number of scopes etc they would have had. The troops would have been older conscripts with older kit... |
Re: OOB 066 Sweden [WIP]
my guess would be rifle or SMG with 60 HE, Hand grenade 8 (2 each), and perhaps sniper rifle with 30 rounds.
As for points, always best to let the OOB Cost Calculator Utility do it's thing and come up with a point cost. |
Re: OOB 066 Sweden [WIP]
ALWAYS run the OOB through the points calculator after creating units. It's the only way to get a consistent unit cost
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