Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

The flamethrowers are in. I'm surprised there wasn't an FT unit in the game pre 1940

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

I think the crux of the matter is what is a rifle and what is a carbine and how do they actually differ. Carbines which fire normal full-power rifle cartridges had roughly the same effective range as full-length infantry rifles. Both are highly lethal to 1000+ meters and able to deliver suppressive area fire up to 600 meters at least. However, once LMGs became common, firing at such long ranges was usually (but not always) left to them and to specialized sniper and marksmen (Mind you, in WW1 and even WW2 those guys used normal infantry rifles and sometimes did not even have any special optical sights. They were just better shooters and perhaps had a better vision than the average rifleman.)

Any accuracy differences were more due to the user not being able to see his target and hit it at long ranges with just iron sights. If some difference has to be modeled in the game, then instead of giving the long barrel rifles a longer range, they should have slightly higher accuracy than carbines. That would better represent any inherent differences between them.

No, I am not suggesting this should be implemented in the game now, later or never. It's just what my reading, minimal experience in shooting rifles and talking to more experienced shooters of infantry personal weapons have made me think about the matter. Food for thought, if you will, nothing more.

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

Sorry, it was supposed to be #83.

But they shouldn't be the same class IMO, because in 1939 we have #326 Enginer Sqd of class 140, while flamethrowers were used in separate flamethrower platoons, not in engineer squads.


...and usually they had specially selected rifles, with best accuracy.

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

I'd like to precise it: I proposed to create a section, and 3 sections should be a squad (platoon-level in the game). A platoon consisted of 3 squads, but I don't think it's useful to create such big FT units.

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

There were rare in the Polish Army, so they are usually overlooked - maybe it's because.

I'm attaching proposed pictures, and several improved ones - you might decide, if they're better enough (armoured cars have correct proportions on my pics).

Michał

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

OK fine....... in the pre 1940 Polish army flamethrowers were not only rare but organized in separate flamethrower platoons, not in engineer squads.

Consider this.......... if I set them up the way you want to set them up the AI will never use them and if I set them up the way I am going to set them up the AI will, occasionally, buy a team and actually use them in the game which is better than making them a human only formation simply because the "official" TO&E says they were used " in separate flamethrower platoons". If I make them part of the engineer organization ( Like they are in virtually all the other OOB's in both games ) the AI will use them AND they will be available to the human player which is the better solution to the issue..........BECAUSE......this is a game

Don

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

I'm not sure which graphics program you use to create your photos but does it give you the option of choosing either colour matching or error diffusion dithering when you apply the pic palette with it ?


Also, the game does not like non standard sizes and pm29522_wz34_Image4.lbm is only 159 wide. I have corrected it but it saves me a lot of time I don't have much to spare when I don't have to check everything


Don

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

Could you please clearly explain what it is you want me to do here .

What point would there be in having one start 1/30 and another start 1/36 if the MG.08 is a AAMG ? There is no purpose to having 2


Don

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

If it was an AAMG or not does not really depend solely on the mount, but on whether AA sights were provided or not. Hitting aerial targets of faster than 100 km/h with ground sights is pretty much hopeless. Tracers help a little, but still aligning the target without the reference points provided by an AA sight is very difficult. Adjusting lead without speed rings is extremely hard as well (even a single ring is much better than none). Ring and bead sights were certainly crude, but much better than nothing. Hitting a fast moving aerial target without an AA sight would be like hitting a ground target with a rifle at 25+ meters without using the sights (Rambo style :D). Except more difficult.

Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)
 

Which does not answer the question. There is a 08 as an AAMG in the OOB now so why would I need a second Taczanka in 1936. Michal posted, let him answer