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DRG April 11th, 2022 02:08 PM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Yep and Poland and Ukraine are not on the list

blazejos July 28th, 2022 07:29 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Interesting story about Cougar HEV 4x4 in Polish army.

They were in years 2009-2014 in use by polish units in Afghanistan then returned to US army and now they coming back ...

Poland buy around 300 in version 4x4 to be used in eastern border as patrol vehicle and as utility car better than Tarpan Honker.
https://defbrief.com/2022/06/22/pola...s-from-the-us/

Tarpan Honker armoured

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/cdn-c...k-jpg.2352787/

Coguar in "European camo"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYlZZNHW...jpg&name=large

Probably these used vehicles are interim solution until better suitable for european roads will be available in bigger number. Polish future MRAP is probably HSW-Tatra Jelcz 4x4

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/cdn-c...w-jpg.2353066/

Also variant with Brimstone rockets is planed to replace old BRDM2 rockets versions in AT mobile units.

https://www.hsw.pl/aktualnosci/konso...cieli-czolgow/

https://www.hsw.pl/wp-content/upload...ISZCZYCIEL.png

blazejos July 28th, 2022 07:52 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Have some proposition how is possible to put this again available Cougar in Polish OOB without use of additionally slots. Meaby is possible to extend unit years 2009-2025 and do years 2014- April 2022 unviable by remove formation so player will can't buy them .

I'm just also curious if is possible place in game units for this vehicle or meaby as a off map artillery?

BAOBAB-K Scatterable Mine-laying vehicle
https://militaryleak.com/2022/07/25/...duction-phase/

https://i0.wp.com/militaryleak.com/w...pg?w=600&ssl=1

miq September 29th, 2022 03:00 PM

Re: Poland OOB
 
The Spike ATGM platoon in MRV Company+ (334) is only available until 2021. Should it be later?

DRG September 30th, 2022 07:37 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miq (Post 853195)
The Spike ATGM platoon in MRV Company+ (334) is only available until 2021. Should it be later?

343 ends 11/ 2021 and 348, which has the same structure starts up 12/ 2021 then runs to 12/25 but 348 is not used by any formation and when I get time I will dig into it...... it ran to 2025 the previous release and 338 did not exist. There may have been a formation structure adjustment that was WIP

miq October 1st, 2022 03:29 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Also, I could not find any difference between infantry units 268 and 269 except for LBM and 'available from'. They appear as options for Rifle Company (006).

blazejos October 21st, 2022 07:15 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Bayraktar TB2 unit 693 in Polish OOB were introduced in 9/2022 in reality they are aviable since 10/2022 so very close the date were deducted last year :)

Polish introduced also K2 and K9A1 in this year propablly 11/2022 into units. first tanks are already in European camo

https://zbiam.pl/prezentacja-pierwsz...tohaubic-k9a1/

https://zbiam.pl/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/K1.jpg


Also K239 Chunmoo will be introduced in next year don't know when build on polish Jelcz chasis here is visualisation of this vehicle https://www.altair.com.pl/news/view?news_id=38267

BWP AS21 is also tested in Poland already nice photo in european camo https://www.altair.com.pl/news/view?news_id=38277

DRG October 21st, 2022 10:01 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
OK...........

1/will the K2PL be using the gun-fired missile?

2/What's the difference that would change anything in the game between the K9A1 and unit 37?

FASTBOAT TOUGH October 22nd, 2022 02:41 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Well, I see there were no takers out here to answer the questions so I guess that leaves me just when I thought I could go to bed!?! :rolleyes:

1. I've reviewed my files on the deal w/Poland and conducted a further web search geared toward the KASTAM-II which is the current version in use by the South Korean Army.

The search was unsuccessful and personally I feel unlikely to happen given the technologies involved. The KASTAM-II sort of reminds me of the STRIX in its mode of deployment and operations.
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/moder...ck-panther.php
(Go to FIREPOWER it gives the best description on KASTAM.)


The K2 is capable of firing any NATO standard tank ammo. It should be noted which is why...
"Nammo has secured an agreement to develop new and modern 120mm ammunition for Hyundai Rotem Companies’ K2 Black Panther main battle tank (MBT)."
This is to support the European operators of the K2 tank.
https://militaryleak.com/2022/10/07/...n-battle-tank/
(From Oct 8th.)


This furthers my case that it appears South Korea like Japan is wanting to hold on to their secrets when it comes to ammo and armor.

2. Overall it's much more accurate the CEP will be much smaller due to the fact that the K9A1 has added an Inertial Navigation System (INS) coupled to the existing GPS that the K9 carried. Also has a new Auto. FCS. The ref breaks it down very easily.

Both share protection against 155mm shrapnel and 14.5mm AP.
https://www.hanwha-defense.co.kr/eng...0power%20units.
https://www.hanwha-defense.co.kr/eng...-system-k10.do
Might need some of these as well.


And for people like me who seek a deeper meaning of things at times I give you the following with NAMMO mentioned again :p ...
https://www.emerald.com/insight/cont...0011/full/html

Regards,
Pat
:capt:

DRG October 22nd, 2022 05:35 AM

Re: Poland OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 853300)
The K2 is capable of firing any NATO standard tank ammo. It should be noted which is why...
"Nammo has secured an agreement to develop new and modern 120mm ammunition for Hyundai Rotem Companies’ K2 Black Panther main battle tank (MBT)."
This is to support the European operators of the K2 tank.
https://militaryleak.com/2022/10/07/...n-battle-tank/
(From Oct 8th.)


This furthers my case that it appears South Korea like Japan is wanting to hold on to their secrets when it comes to ammo and armor.

Most of what we do is based on the info we can find and the info we can find is always "old news". Sometimes I have to guesstimate.... sometimes that actually works

For now I am giving the K2PL Mesko.........for now. I don't think (?)this deal involves ammo from Korea

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 853300)

The search was unsuccessful and personally I feel unlikely to happen given the technologies involved. The KASTAM-II sort of reminds me of the STRIX in its mode of deployment and operations.
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/moder...ck-panther.php
(Go to FIREPOWER it gives the best description on KASTAM.)

Exports: The Altay

Quote:

"The Altay is intended to enter in service in 2018".
ROTFLMAO.......

Like I said "old news"

EDIT

The "Altay issue" is compounded by.......


Quote:

The lone analogy in today’s international system to what just happened between Britain’s politics and markets is in Turkey, where President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been obstructing monetary policy, prattling the economic gibberish that higher interest rates fan inflation. The result of this reckless imposition is 83% inflation, 10% unemployment and a 51% plunge in the lira’s value over the past 12 months alone.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-720204


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