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Ts4EVER October 10th, 2023 03:07 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
I assume there are no offmap units in these?

zovs66 October 10th, 2023 03:28 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER (Post 855506)
I assume there are no offmap units in these?

With regards to 9 and 400 that would be an incorrect assumption. But with the generated battles then that would be a correct assumption.

zovs66 October 10th, 2023 03:29 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Other than OBA of course.

DRG October 10th, 2023 05:55 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zovs66 (Post 855505)
At first I was thinking the junk has something to do with arty or air strikes. But I don't know. This one is hard to replicate.


I did watch one and I only saw this once but I had fast arty ON and every time a stonk hit the map, green junk would appear on the west edge..... watched it happen three times but it is not certain if it was the arty or the smoke the arty created that caused it.. but I for sure saw it happen

That was a 45x70 map --- defend--15500 points-

I *THINK* the defenders were on the left side. AI vs AI set up

EDIT

It is worth mentioning that the junk appeared on the west edge very close to the same location vertically as the arty stonks in the middle of the map

Karagin October 10th, 2023 09:10 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Off or on map units, when I see the junk, it happens regardless.

zovs66 October 10th, 2023 09:33 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Likewise I also so the "junk" appear right after a few Fw 190's were making their strafing and bombing runs. Prior to that (turns 1-5 I think) the arty was pounding the map and no "junk".

The thing I am noticing is that 15k points seems to trigger it. I have a test going with 10k and have not seen any "junk" yet.

DRG October 10th, 2023 10:03 PM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Just saw the junk appear again during a barrage. Defender was on the left side and it was the attackers arty that started junk appearing

The junk appears around the middle of the west map edge when I saw it appear but by the end of the first turn it was up and down the west map edge

90x90 map 15500 points on the defenders side
377 defender units / 500 attacker

DRG October 11th, 2023 08:59 AM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
This is for those of you who are interested in getting this solved and are willing to put a bit of time

Set up a battle exactly this way

Map 70x70
Defender points 15500
P1 UK defend......... 3 air sorties
P2 Japan attack.......2 air sorties
Date July 1942
AI vs AI

ADDITIONALLY
Preferences
Sound, Animation and message delay all showing NO bar
Battle FX OFF
Everything else is ON including Fast arty and all player preferences set to 100% with both troop quality at XXX

If that creates edge junk for everyone that tries it then we all have a consistant standard and that means both Andy and I have something to work from that we know shows the problem on other computers as well

DRG October 11th, 2023 09:22 AM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
FWIW, being dug in or not does not seem to be a factor. Edge junk appeared with the same set up as above but the battle set up as a Japanese Advance

DRG October 11th, 2023 10:00 AM

Re: Omaha Beach - Scen #9
 
Also, Andy ran the same set up and got the same result so once we know others see it too we have a firm base to test


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