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Unknown_Enemy

March 4th, 2003 07:39 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

just went late here, so I want to comment about the MOO3 map. Looking at it, you really feel in the galaxy, as the 2d maps of SE4 is sort of artificial.

Aloofi

March 4th, 2003 08:24 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Quote:

Originally posted by Mondu999:

It ain't commercial. The graphics don't compare. Most players 'talk' about how graphics don't matter in strategy games, but that's a lie. Its nice to have bells and whistles.

Its not a lie!
When a player say that graphics don't matter is not saying that SE3 looks better than SE4, but that graphics are SECONDARY!
I can live perfectly well without good graphics, but I CAN'T live with bad gameplay!
For some odd reason, games that focus in graphics ALWAYS lack in gameplay and are anything but deep, especially in the 4x genre, and in Strategy in general.
So yes, graphics DON'T matter.

phaet2112

March 4th, 2003 10:09 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

so what is the proposed release date of se5? How different/better will it be than se4 gold?

oleg	March 4th, 2003 10:16 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Quote:

Originally posted by phaet2112:
so what is the proposed release date of se5? How different/better will it be than se4 gold?

Read this thread: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=008344

There are words from MM himself it will come next summer !

henk brouwer

March 4th, 2003 10:17 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Aaron just gave a rough estimate earlier today:

Quote:

Originally posted by Malfador Machinations:
Hi All!

Too optimistic? No, its true, we're shooting for a summer 2004 release date for SE5. That may be unduly optimistic at this point, but what the hell. We have begun design of the game and are working out the UI as we speak.

Starfury should be out by July!

Aaron

Edit: Aack!! Oleg beat me in answering by a minute.... Seems the forums are picking up some speed since MoO III flopped...

[ March 04, 2003, 20:20: Message edited by: henk brouwer ]

phaet2112

March 4th, 2003 10:23 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

*sigh* another year of waiting....I had waited a long time for MOO3, after playing alpha centauri and moo2 a lot, and enjoying them (as well as medieval tw). But after a while onteh Boards when MOO3 came out, it is clear to me that I wouldn't enjoy it.

So I read atrocities' post about se4, and clicked on over here. I am definately intrigued enough to warrent a purchase, but I had some slight reservations depending on when se5 was coming out. If it is a year off, then I might go ahead with se4 gold.

Modding doesnt scare me- Im modding morrowind right now, so that isnt a huge thing for me to work on. But I would likely be playing this single player, and wouldn't want to put too much effort right out of the box altering the AI to suit my tastes. After a while Id probably go nuts and bolts with it, but what about the initial sp play?

henk brouwer

March 4th, 2003 10:28 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

For single player you should make sure to upgrade to the latest seIV Version and to download and install the TDM-MOD, not much work, but a huge difference in AI performance. with those alterations the game is great for SP. (some of the mods out there also have very decent AI : [proportions for example)

[ March 04, 2003, 20:29: Message edited by: henk brouwer ]

oleg	March 4th, 2003 10:30 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Quote:

Originally posted by phaet2112:
*sigh* another year of waiting....I had waited a long time for MOO3, after playing alpha centauri and moo2 a lot, and enjoying them (as well as medieval tw). But after a while onteh Boards when MOO3 came out, it is clear to me that I wouldn't enjoy it.

So I read atrocities' post about se4, and clicked on over here. I am definately intrigued enough to warrent a purchase, but I had some slight reservations depending on when se5 was coming out. If it is a year off, then I might go ahead with se4 gold.

Modding doesnt scare me- Im modding morrowind right now, so that isnt a huge thing for me to work on. But I would likely be playing this single player, and wouldn't want to put too much effort right out of the box altering the AI to suit my tastes. After a while Id probably go nuts and bolts with it, but what about the initial sp play?

No problems - just download the latest TDM mod (the one on your CD would be already out of data) and you will get quite a tread from AI with medium/high bonus !

P>S> the latest SE patch (1.84) imporoved AI as well.

phaet2112

March 4th, 2003 11:18 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Cool cool...
sounds neat...see you guys have already picked up another recruit through atrocities' post http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Aloofi

March 4th, 2003 11:34 PM

Re: oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

Quote:

Originally posted by phaet2112:
But I would likely be playing this single player, and wouldn't want to put too much effort right out of the box altering the AI to suit my tastes. After a while Id probably go nuts and bolts with it, but what about the initial sp play?

One word: Proportions! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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