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Ed Kolis May 8th, 2003 12:43 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Hey Pooka... you know if your opponent and his allies get wind of the fact that you have an entire forum backing you up here...

Naah, your opponent already has all those allies IN GAME, who would HE be calling a baby http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Xaren Hypr May 8th, 2003 01:08 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Well there is nothing wrong with getting a little out-of-game advice when you are still relatively new....esp. when your opponent is getting massive amounts of in-game assistance http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Just a thought...

Pooka May 8th, 2003 01:15 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
Hey Pooka... you know if your opponent and his allies get wind of the fact that you have an entire forum backing you up here...

Naah, your opponent already has all those allies IN GAME, who would HE be calling a baby http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's true, he could call me all sorts of things. But if I(3 systems, 12 planets) beat him (14systems, 30+ planets) and he makes a fuss about it my reply is simple:

"Just because I used every asset at my disposal to defeat you, and you foolishly didn't employ all of your assets, does NOT give you the right to whine like the little ***** I turned you into."

Or, to quote my friend:

"If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough."

Dingocat85 May 8th, 2003 12:29 PM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Wardad:
Yes the max is 100 mines.
Unless your playing an older Version and know the exploit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't know, since I have SE4 non-Gold http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif , but is the exploit
1) laying 99 mines, then
2) laying as many mines as possible?

dogscoff May 8th, 2003 03:36 PM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
The other mine exploit (well, more of a tactic than an exploit IMO) is for player one to lay a huge stack of mines at a location, then gift the minesweeper to player 2 who then lays a bunch more. Assuming player three is at war with both players 1 & 2, the mine-per-sector limit has been effectively doubled.

And of course you can do this as many times as you have allies...

Loser May 9th, 2003 01:06 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloofi:
Do you like Tatu?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I knew this thread was missing something, and now I know what it was: off-topic little Russian kissing-girls.

They're little girls. They're Russian. They're peddling the appearance of juvenile promiscuity. They kiss each other. Their music is currently tolerable (but could easily be over played, even more easily than No Doubt). What's not to like?

jimbob May 9th, 2003 02:00 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Hey, you're playing a non-gold game right? so who is at the top of the turn ladder? 'Cause if it isn't a gold game, then Warp Point camping isn't going to do you any good:

If he is higher in the game turn order, then when he comes through the warp point, he will get first shot on you = you die (sorry, nice knowning you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

If you are higher on the game turn ladder, then when you go through the warp point you will get first shot.

Then the only advantage to letting him come to you is that he'll run into your mines. conversely the only thing holding you back from attacking him is that you'll need to build a bunch of minesweepers.

hope that clairifies things. I just think it would be a shame for you to build up and camp on your side of the warp point only to have him come through and get the first shot... better you sit back one space from the warp point, let him come through and then engage him in combat. Besides, if you back away you may be able to coax him into your minefield before he has sufficient minesweepers ready http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ed Kolis May 9th, 2003 02:46 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Hey... you don't have warp openers do you?

I bet he'd NEVER expect that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Of course they're fairly expensive to research and build, so if you don't already have a lot of research points it's probably not worth bothering with, but it's a thought...

Also remember that there can only be 1 warp point between 2 systems, so if you're in Utekra and he's across the warp point in Wertuy you can't open a warp from Utekra to Wertuy... but you could open a warp from one of your other systems to Wertuy, or open a warp from one of your systems to his unguarded inner systems (if you have warp openers of the appropriate range http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Pooka May 9th, 2003 03:58 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
Hey... you don't have warp openers do you?

I bet he'd NEVER expect that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Of course they're fairly expensive to research and build, so if you don't already have a lot of research points it's probably not worth bothering with, but it's a thought...

Also remember that there can only be 1 warp point between 2 systems, so if you're in Utekra and he's across the warp point in Wertuy you can't open a warp from Utekra to Wertuy... but you could open a warp from one of your other systems to Wertuy, or open a warp from one of your systems to his unguarded inner systems (if you have warp openers of the appropriate range http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've got Stellar Manip 1. Pondering going to 2 but weapons tech seems more important just yet. I might be able to get SM3 from someone else though. It may be worth trying.

Pooka May 9th, 2003 08:34 AM

Re: Fight Dirty?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by jimbob:
Hey, you're playing a non-gold game right? so who is at the top of the turn ladder? 'Cause if it isn't a gold game, then Warp Point camping isn't going to do you any good:

If he is higher in the game turn order, then when he comes through the warp point, he will get first shot on you = you die (sorry, nice knowning you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

If you are higher on the game turn ladder, then when you go through the warp point you will get first shot.

Then the only advantage to letting him come to you is that he'll run into your mines. conversely the only thing holding you back from attacking him is that you'll need to build a bunch of minesweepers.

hope that clairifies things. I just think it would be a shame for you to build up and camp on your side of the warp point only to have him come through and get the first shot... better you sit back one space from the warp point, let him come through and then engage him in combat. Besides, if you back away you may be able to coax him into your minefield before he has sufficient minesweepers ready http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think I'm in front of him on the turn list. I'm above him on the list displayed when you login. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


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