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Rulers of the world:

Do not trust the word of the silver tongued leader of the Empire of Pythium.

The Bakemono are nowhere near as powerful as Pythium. I currently have no Tartarians, no SC's and no demons either. I am way behind in research compared to C'tis and Pythium.

My armies and commanders/mages have been decimated by attacks by Pythium and Pangaea as you can see in the graphs.
My Adepts of the Golden Order are now limited in number since being hit by 4 Earth attacks and 3 ghost riders a turn for the past 7+ turns from Pangaea and Pythium. It has also been raining toads in the my 3 main fortresses for 15+ turns.

Pythium currently has 9 Tartarians, an Air Queen, a Harbinger and various other large HP troops beseiging the Tower of the Golden Order (see attached picture) and he will take it next turn. He has 2 other Harbingers and a Tartarian Cyclops rampaging through my other lands. He now has 7 of my former provinces. He master enslaved many of my troops and now he uses them against me.

You can see in the graphs that he is nearly, now, top in all of them. His lies can not be believed.

The Bakemono have been honourable warriors the whole game. Lying is a not an act we respect. We do not ask for help, we are simply asking you: do you want Pythium to win this game?

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What ever you do, Agartha the Great was, is and will be the ruler of this world.

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Reay,

A picture is worth a 1000 words. But it can fail to show certain things. As I stated(truthfully)all but 3 of my tartarians in your lands are just units, they are not commanders. And the flying one is blind! It has a zero attack and defense! The other flying one is feebleminded, and one of the commanders has never healing wound.

Tartarians do have a lot of hps, but with a zero attack/defense they are hardly the be all end all of an endgame dominions 3 army.

You have no demons? What are those units that throw lighting and the little ones that throw fire? National summons to be sure, but the little ones that throw fire i am near certain are demons left over from an earlier era.

Maybe this will refresh your memory:

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...83512a252g.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...63f684812g.jpg


Pythium is not losing its war with Shin. But neither have we inflicted any lasting damage on Shin to this point. The only castles we have taken have been from Pangaea.

But should Pythium actually gain a foothold on Shin. soil, that fact will not herald the end of the game. It may in fact lessen Shin.'s chances of victory, but Shin. cannot dispute the vast number of gems Pythium has spent in this war. Astral travel is not cheap, and it has been done more than once, ghost riders have been cast, mages have teleported, master enslave, while effective, is not cheap.

Battlefield spells cost gems. I have had an Air Queen with full items killed by Shin., and incurred many other losses.
And have yet to gain a single fort-though that may soon change(who knows). Pythium certainly hopes so.

But nations like Ermor have Well of Misery and tartarians without number. Ctis has 5 times(easily) the number of tartarians of Pythium). And these nations are saving their gems. They are not spending 50 gems a turn in war.

They will have a large say on who wins Fallacy, regardless of whom wins the war between Shin and Pangaea, or Ryleh and Caelum, or Pangaea and Jotunheim.

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I do not know where you got those unit info pics from because I have no demons currently in my armies. Anyway how could you see units on the strategic map if they are not your units? They only time you can see other peoples units are when you are watching battles. The background of those pics is the strategic map and not a battle. They are probably in your armies because you enslaved them from me.

I am willing to give my turn files away to an independant person to prove that I have no demons currently in my armies.

Anyway it doesn't matter, but believe me the leader of Pythium is a master of lies.

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There is no deception, or attempt at deception Shinuyama. The foul smoke that rises from the pits in your lands has clearly clouded your wits.

These 2 were obviously enslaved! Their hps, enhanced from GOH, are clearly shown. The point is not that these 2 demons are yours, but that you are summoning them!

Pythium is a wholesome nation of Fighting men, Wise old mages, Priests, and Angels, while Shinuyama is a foul nation of goblins/demons. Maybe Pythium has succeeded in slaying all of Shinuyama's demons. If so, the World truly does owe Pythium a debt of gratitude.[Priest rattles the collection plate].

Though what would stop Shinuyama from summoning more is a question Pythium cannot answer(: Only the complete destruction of Shinuyama would give the World a level of assurance it needs that more demons are not being brought into this plane through the Portal from Hell!

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Many other losses? You have gained more troops (70-80 Dai Bakemeno/O'Bakemono)? from me than you have lost. You have lost one air queen that is true, but you have not lost anything of value to me since then.

3 of the Tartarians have one affliction, but they are still brutal with 2 having 640 hp and one having 5s and 2 blood and 2 cyclops with 2A3E. The others are mostly 300+ HP each. Your GOH is serving you well.

How is T'ien Chi's great city going with all those gems and income? You stole it from me after my long battle with the fierce forest beings as I was just about to storm it.

Shinuyama is not a late game power, whereas Pythium is, everyone knows that. Pythium probably has more demons in his armies than I have.

Perhaps we should rattle the plates to get some donations to stop Pythiums Evil Armies of Tartarians?

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OOC

Actually Shinuyama is a very potent late game power. Playing Shin I won a mp game beating some excellent players playing Pythium, Ryleh, Mictlan, and Agartha(tough late as well). While it was an Epic Heroes game, Dr P killed my Epic Hero early in the game so he was not a factor.

Bane Fire can bring down the mightiest sc, and Shin alone has access to mages at every castle that can cast Bane Fire earth attacks(with boosters), ghosts riders(with boosters). Of course all mages need boosters to cast ghost riders and earth attacks.

Shin's mages are sacred, and benefit from an Earth bless, and their high hps make them immune to seeking arrow. They can spam skellies making them immune to earth attacks. And
even 1 shin mage in a province spamming magna eruption can defeat ghost riders x 2.

Shin's summons can also be quite powerful used in combination with other things.

Shin. also has one of the best pd in the game, especially above 20.

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Yes, Shin can be reasonable in the end game as you specified.
However Pythium is much more powerful as you are witnessing now.

Protecting against Ghost Riders and Earth Attacks is hard when you are scripting to defend against 2000 naked women and undead.

Your single Ghost Rider attacks are defeating my 30 PD every time unless I have one Sorcerer in the province. Half of my Sorcerers have been killed already in the past 15-20 turns.

Of course my lack of experience in the end game will probably be the deciding factor.

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Yes, Ermor has some dozens of Tartarians now. We use them to tend the fields, and put down unrest in the provinces. The few that have intact brains, we use to research. We would not say that we have a Tartarian host to field though... most of them are cretins.

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Wait, did I say I had Tartarians tending the fields? I meant we have barbarians tending the fields. No tartarians at all, nope, none.

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Yes, mightly Sulpicious, has won the death match, and is now champion of the world.

You guys really need to take those death matches more seriously. Suplicious is blind and feeble minded. I sent him in there to die, but no one else showed up. He has already stabbed himself with the champion's trident, since he can't tell which end is the pointy end.

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Eek! I just accidentally deleted the Caelum turn that had been uploaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

A thousand apologies, hopefully whoever's playing Caelum right now can upload again (it won't affect the local copy, obviously.)

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No worries, so long as it doesn't host before I get home tonight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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has this game ended or something? it has been about a week since it has hosted.

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i think the timer has been reset on patching the server.

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It said 30 hours til host when I logged on last night (which was after Velusion patched). Not sure what it says now.

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Seems as if vfb would take his turn, we could get this ball rolling (no hurry vfb, just wondered if you are still interested in the game).

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Ctis has a sub. Dryunda is now playing Ctis.

On a different note, it looks like there has been a rebellion by one of the Oracle's Vassals!

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Horsies got bored.

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Agartha welcomes the treachery of Eriu.

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Aww, thanks...but please note that we had an informal agreement to cease hostilities to deal with Van, but no formal treaty. Just want to be clear that even bored horsies obey the laws of war.

But...we have been using earth gems THE WHOLE TIME! Mwahahahahack<kaff!>... hahaha. And so forth.

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Is this game going back to 72 hours?

If not I might struggle to get my turns in, which means this game goes to Pythium. (who looks like winning either way).

He already has 3 of my fortresses and 2 more besieged. 5+ SC's are scooping up my other provinces.

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Oh yeah by the way, Judgement day has come as you can see by the attachments.

Seraph with 3 wishes put into it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

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sry double post

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Agartha the Oblivious forgot the exact pact we had as it was not important enough to be remembered. (Agartha the Oblivous forgot to change commands of the troops in Mictlan too. May they rest in peace.) The only thing that matters is that another earthabuser will face his horrible fate. The statues are on the march.

Pffff Agartha the Humble has stronger creatures as this pityable Seraph in his home for the aged.

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At least Agartha is not afraid of a horror marked Angel with bad equipment!

Just wait a few turns and I am sure a Doom Horror will take care of your troubles for you. If the Seraph was not so badly horror marked, I would have equipped her a bit better!

"which means this game goes to Pythium". Not that I agree with your statement, but what would be so bad about it if it occurred? Pythium is a good race. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

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This game goes to Pythium? Odd. I see no Pythium troops in Ermor's land, or in any of my neighbors lands. It is true that we in the south have good relations with our powerful neighbor Pythium. But to give him supremacy over the world? No, we are not ready to do that.

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I think Shinuyama equates his downfall with the end of the game. Certainly Ctis, Ermor, and perhaps even the Ryleh have as good a shot as Pythium at winning this game.

Pythium loses troops every turn, and spends gems every turn. Though we do not feel obligated to post the news for public viewing.

If Shin wanted to give completely accurate reports for last turn, he could say how his mages spammed banefire and gifts from heaven on my trolls and summer lions killing them all.

He would report on killing untold troops with flames from the sky, and diseasing them with leprosy.

And while a Seraph is indeed a SC, harbingers are thugs. So Pythium does not have 5+ sc's running around anyone's land.
Pythium owns 1 and only one seraph, and regrettably he be horror marked(:

But Pythium is winning the war with Shinuyama.

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I did not cast Flames from the Sky, that is for sure. Leprosy diseased 25 troops, yay! What about the other 200 troops in my other castle (see attachment).

Oh and that one province I won back last turn, was with 2 mages. Who defeated about 5 summer lions and 10 trolls, yay! Now I just have to get the other 15 provinces you have taken.

Once Pythium owns half the world with double the gems and income of everyone else I can't see anyone beating him. Don't say I didn't warn you.

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hmm, Flames from the Sky cast by a secret admirer? Something to ponder. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

The most impressive thing about that army is that I managed to group all the chill beings together!

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Due to a request I've move the timer of this game to 72 hours. I can reset it again (or move it up) if that isn't desired.

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My, my. That was ugly. I may need to bow down to Agartha after all. Their forces are mighty.

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Did you doubt the words of the stone oracle of Agartha the Invincible? Helena doubts that you want to feel the wrath of a real Agarthian army... We await your earth gems that "fell from the sky".

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Agartha, at least, fights 2 foes at once without public cries for aid, and he kills a seraph-yes a SC!-with little fanfare.

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That's because Agartha is invincible. And Agartha the Great doesn't need the aid of lesser tribes, it's the lesser tribes and the earth and its gems that needs the aid of Agartha. Every new vassal that joins our ranks on the side of Jotunheim and C'tis is welcomed under the guide of Agartha the Loving.

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Agartha the Loving? Methinks Agartha the cruel would be a better name. Ermor will never bow to you, even though you have killed two of our mightiest heroes. Yes, we will send you some earth gems... and we know where to put them once we get there. Straight up Helena's fat ....

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I repeat, I never asked for aid.

At least I defeated one "thug" this turn. Unfortunately I lost about 7 sorcerers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

Enjoy your swine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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The troops have to eat! And you know there is nothing like bacon in the morning!

Good job on defense Reay. That Angel, who was in the Hall of Fame since the early wars against Ermor, served Pythium well before his fall last month. And your leprosy actually diseased 40 of my main army last turn. Diseased troops, pigs, dead Angels(:

We knew Shinuyama would put a sizable hole in our armies before the war was done. Now we must regroup and lick our wounds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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We must defer. Shinuyama has never attacked Ermor, nor has Ermor ever attacked Shin. We may do so in the future, who knows? But as of yet there are no hostilities between us.

Agartha is another story. Agartha needs to die.

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The Alliance of the Weak, formed by Eriu and Ermor, makes Helena smile and weep at the same time. Eriu's siege on Mictlan is broken and more invincible troops are on the way to Werk Erum.
Agartha cruel? Agartha never started a war. It always only defended itself or its vassals. But do what you think you have to do, but if those two poor things that were beaten up by the PD of Agartha the Invincible were really your mightiest heroes then Agartha the Wise suggests you should surrender to Agartha the Glorious at once.

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Umm, you declared war on us, Agartha. Look back a few posts. We never had anything against you until you declared war. When someone declares war on Ermor, we will respond in kind.

And yes, we lost two prime units to PD. That was very poorly done on our part. But we have so many more to send. And we will send them a bit more intelligently this time.

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OMG, this game could go on for years. Dominions could use some kind of global end game nuke. I guess BoT could count for that, but I'm not willing to cast it. Most of my troops are living. I think BoT was even outlawed, for this game.

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Yes this game could go on for ages, however Shinuyama will probably be going down soon enough. Pythium keeps casting Ghost Riders and I lose many provinces a turn.

I will keep up the fight however. It is just as fun defending as it is attacking (almost http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ).

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That is why it is important to fun in the endgame. Sure it may be a better strategy to win to sit for 2-3 months and build up, but i play the game to have fun mostly, and i enjoy the battles.

Defending is more fun than attacking because it is easier typically. You are fighting in your dominion, near your home base, you do not have to transport troops across the world to get them to battle, and it is much easier to defend catles then to take them.

But we all do not have the luxury of being defenders or the game really will last forever!

BTW, that Ice Devil actually lived a turn longer than I thought he would. I was not happy when i summoned him and I got the one that "though weaker than the others" he does has 2 astral magic." heh. At least he tied and took a mage with him so he was not a total waste.

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Shin....

Just a suggestion. When you take your turn, maybe you could take your next turn as well? (since you are generally last). I think you are pretty small at this point, and it would speed up the game. I'm not criticizing you, but just trying to speed up the game a bit.

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I do try and do as much as I can of the next turn as soon as I finish my turn. Being attacked by Pythium means it takes a long time to set up defense with 15 provinces being attacked each turn.

Fortunately I won't be around for much longer and then you can take on the monstrosity that is Pythium http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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reay i have never attacked 15 provinces in 1 turn! lol. 6 or 7, yes. And your demise would go faster if you would not kill my angels and ice devils!

As an aside, i never knew when you mind hunted an uba, they did not die but just shape shifted to cat form. how hokie!

ray and reay-the names sound alike. are you 2 related? ray seems to be determined to pick a fight with me for some reason Pythium cannot understand other than we are at war with a nation owned by a player with a similar name. heh.

Agartha wins!
 

Agartha the Great is proud to announce several victories at once. Several military victories over Eriu and a moral victory over Ermor. Agartha the Restrainted, though capable of, doesn't join the folly of summoning the banned false gods of the Tartarus. Those foul beasts are the weapon of the weak of will and honor. We will send it and his companions back where it came from and suggest you take your ally Eriu as an example of how a man/women/beast/well/undead fights.

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We are not sure where Agartha's moral victory over us occurred, since we wiped out the province we attacked with hardly any losses. Oh, and they were so happy to be liberated from your yoke, that they gave us 200gp!

And if you are suggesting that we are dishonorable because we use Tartarians... well, there was one in that battle. He was feebleminded and guarding a commander. Not exactly much of an influence. The rest are back home pillaging my own lands. Now, which councillor was it that suggested we summon those things? We think he needs one less head.

-The Council of Ermor

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Hey! Don't pick on us Reays http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif.

Well I lost about 8 mages to assassination rituals that turn. 3 Ashen Angels and 4 Earth Attacks, 2 Fires from Afar, 1 Mind Hunt and 1 failed Vengeance of the Dead. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif

My Golem didn't cast returning even though it had 4 astral gems and then got magic dueled grr..

The Uba you mind hunted was muted. So it looks like it took a lot of damage but its second form saved it.

The former capital of Ulm and Tien Chi are now in Pythium's hands.