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Yep, the server is messed up. The webpage says it is on the correct turn, but is sending out turns skipping forwards a turn.

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so i guess we just hang tight til we hear back from llamabeast.

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Too bad I didn't have any site searching ritual autocasters...

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I'm here! One second...

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Right, I'm afraid we have a slight cockup - the backups of turn 41 were overwritten by those of turn 42, meaning that turn 41 is lost, and we will have to carry on from turn 42, with everyone having staled. Hopefully that won't be a big problem, it should be reasonably fair at least. Sorry for the inconvenience though.

This seems to come up when Dominions itself crashes when trying to process a turn. The LlamaServer doesn't cope very well with that happening though - for some reason it then hosts again immediately, without incrementing the turn counter, which is how it gets out of sync with the real turn number. I haven't quite worked out why it gets confused yet - I will try to look into it.

Anyway, I will get the server to resend all your turns just so you're clear which turn you're meant to be playing, and hopefully everything will be fine from here.

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Thank you llamabeast.

Hmm...looks like my border with Pan produced ~ 20 extra mannikins during the stale.

Tien Chin may need to invest in some Round-Up factories.

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Arg! Lost a Fever Fetish due to the stall. My commander picked a bad turn to be at 1 health.

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Arg. The worst part for me was that the turn didn't stale for AI-Atlantis who seems to bear a grudge for having my stinky giants swimming in the sea....

-SSJ

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They even got their capital back.

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Hm, I wonder if someone should suggest a fix to this for some future patch. An admin option that forces an AI nation to stall a turn.

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Won’t it be getting a bit too cold for an invasion, Patala?

My diplomats assure me that no End-Of-NAP-3-Notice ever reached our embassy, but no worries: we invite your aggression, and wish your troops good luck in the field.

Cheers,
Pangaea

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The Naga warriors are already shivering, in fact. They will be staying on the warmer side of the border, where they can easily kill any mindless vegetables that might wander too far from home.

Now, if you see Gandharvas on your doorstep, you might worry more.

Patala.

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Interesting.

In my experience, the sudden appearance of 3 armies across a peaceful boarder is a bad omen.

But I suppose I have no reason to doubt you. You’ve stated you’ll honor our agreement, and I shall do the same.

Cheers,
Pangaea

<font color="red">p.s. "Wandering Mindless Vegetables"...I couldn't help but laugh at the mental image that created. </font>

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Marignon:

The Nagaraja has decided that the conquest of our cold-blooded kin, the C'tis, cannot stand. The Naga warriors of the Jewelled City shall liberate the oppressed reptile people. Prepare yourself for a slaughter.

[OOC: Hopefully your slaughter not mine! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif]

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[censored] I staled. I could have sworn the turn was due tommorow, not today.

stupid stats paper...

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Omni:

Do you need the turns to be moved to 72hr deadlines? Or is it just finals week? We are getting into the mid-game.

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From what I know some people are already beyond mid game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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it is just finals week. all papers due monday, may 5th; i'm swamped working on them. I should be alright with 48 hour timer, i was just in a zone yesterday and forgot to do my turn.

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Omni:

I've been there and done that myself -- I have a less than pristine record on staling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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At this moment, Tartarians of Tien Chi besiege the noble giants of Utgard. Along with their Pythiumian allies, TC stands to disrupt the delicate balance of power.

Having successfully vanquished Arcoscephale (he's gone AI?), the Pangaen army marches East to engage the Tien Chi menace.

Nations of Alexandria are encouraged to join this valiant crusade, PM me if interested.

Cheers,
Pangaea

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Delicate balance of power is Pangean for the unchecked evil dictatorshipof Utgard and Pan...

Hordes of berserking, quickened giants have been breeding like rabbits for unchecked eons and as most nations of Alexandria know, spread like a plague across our lands. Similarly, the noxious weeds of Pangea never seem to leave our delicate Tien Chin gardens alone.

We call upon all civilized nations to end the reign of terror brought on by these heinous overlords.

And the so-called Tartarian was just a particularly large corpse construct...:)

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The Nagaraja has heard tell that these "T'ien-chi" characters have been attempting to subjugate the seas around Patala. They speak with strange tongues and are warm blooded. This is most disturbing. He may have to take action to secure the kingdom from any possible amphibious aggression.

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Pan never fights a battle without at least 2 allies and his smug response to the (brief) dispelling of his global reveals how he truly feels about his own position in the "balance" of power.

Any nation truly concerned with balance of power (or with a gleam of desire to win) may want to help Tien Chin and use this a chance to set the scales to even.

Arcos? Oh wait, Utgard and Pan already destroyed you.

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We encourage every nation to liberate the world from undead armies of Pan! Free the population of so many provinces from death dominion of cleveland!

Ha! I am dead, but I can do some propaganda too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

To Urapara players: game is finished, result is a draw between TC and Abysia. Explanation in game thread.

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Alas, although victorious, the Nagaraja is mortally wounded, blinded, and diseased. Many of the gurus avert there eyes without pity -- his cruelty has finally come to be repaid.


(OOC: Father Illearth seems a little overrated to me, after these last two games. But it did take about 150 soul slay spells to finally kill him. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif)

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Papers are done! Time to drink!

Race and Choice of Major Field of Study in Higher Education: Symbolic Racism and its Effects on Status Ambition

The Oppressed and Powerless: Subject, Identity, and Voice

Structure and Agency: The Culture Studies Paradigms
(with a contrasting commentary on the macro/micro empiricism paradigms)

Stinky Slimy Things
 

Tien Chin scouts have spotted a 1080 unit Pangean army at 264, 2 provinces away from the gates of the imperial kingdom.

Any civilized nations uncomfortable with the idea of a world managed by undead vegetation may be interested in whittling down this giant shambling horde of rotting orange peels.

And don't think we don't notice the stealing of our sea provinces by their slimy snake friends...

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Hey Pan!

Pythium tells me I'm only attacking him because you must have bribed me. You know, because when anybody does something, it is because Pan bribes them too. It has nothing to do with the fact that Pythium attacked me first. So I'm expecting a few magical items and about 80 gems from you in the mail soon.

Consequently, Pythium confirmed to me that he did attack me because Arco paid him to. Are you really a nation if someone else makes your decisions?

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I'm actually kinda tempted to hang it up right here. Diplomacy is ok, but being a total [censored] is another. I don't want to be involved in a game like this, sorry.

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Are you questioning my nationhood? I have a really big nation. It is almost 8 inches long with a fairly nice girth. (zoomed in of course).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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It will be swallowed whole by Pangaea nonetheless. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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The cavalry doesn't always arrive on horseback. I remember this John Wayne movie when the settlers circled the wagons as the Native Americans rained down arrows. Suddenly, out of the sunset came a thundering force of John Wayne and 100 men riding giant stunted rutabagas...


-SSJ

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Your fear is rightly justified, Tien Chi. The "rotting-orange-peel" strategy is indeed considered vastly superior to the laughable "Chalice-Assisted-Tartarian-Supercombatant" (CATS) strategy your doomed nation has banked upon.

It is Pangaean civic policy to spay and neuter all CATS.

Damn, that was good. I've got nothing. Bravo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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atlantis has some balls.

their taking on mari, utgard, and me; and being pretty efficacious at it, considering.

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I think I speak for everyone else when I say, Go! Go! Go! Crazy AI Atlantis. Maim, Kill, Thrill FishPeople!

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I really don't know why Ylvali quitted. Even after that many turns AI Atlantis is still fighting back while beset on all sides by 4 players. Or is there someone secretly supplying the AI with money and gems?

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Only through the land they've taken from me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

-SSJ

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Pan is paying off the Atlantis AI to give us trouble. He sent them a small fortune and a bundle of magic goodies to do so.

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Sure beats giving up your land and losing your armies for nothing like a sucker, eh?

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Of course. I mean Atlantis is just a puppet; they can't be faulted.

Pan is the nation to be held accountable. Just because he can't be number one, he gives large sums of resources to a neighbor. Doesn't seem very pretenderly-like, does it? More of a metagame issue, I think. It seems that any REAL pretender, actually REALLY playing within the bounds of the game universe, would fight and claw to the last scrap of land; not give up and give away resources to a neighbor.

Strangely enough though, 'first past the post' systems are what breeds third party politics. Fighting for godhood is a bit different from constructing political power strategies though; as personal godhood rather than party power is at stake. As natural human players, it is tempting to create third party political fabrications; but I think it is probably metagaming given the goal of the Dominions universe.

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You somehow imply that we are not striving for godhood in the real world. What a crazy world-view you have.

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in the real world godhood is the strife, not the goal.

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We definitely live in different worlds. Godhood is my goal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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This entire time I thought Pan was the greatest threat. I don't think he's in the top 2 right now. Of course that could change if he steams through TC but there are scarier forces out there for sure!

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The fields of Tien Chin have been a bit less productive the last few harvests. The Minister of Agriculture has ordered a large supply of fertilizer from Pangea and looks like it will arrive shortly.

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Utgard is in position to make a call. (At work so guessing some numbers...)

Hmmmm.... 1000+ bonefiends and a bunch of arch devils in my northern domain. ~1000+ archer ponies with tartarian artillery + a "who's who" list of SCs (dressed to party) in the southern. Hmmm. I guess time will tell.

I must say these late game battles are a true learning experince for me. I would certainly do many things differently if I could go back a few turns... or even back to turn 1... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

-SSJ

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err.... i suppose everyone knows, but to clear up any misunderstanding, 'Pan' and all his tasteless activities are only a simulacrum for another nation once in this game. Pan, to my knowledge, hasn't done anything implied in the above conversation.

the particular nation that did was 'feeding' or 'pushing' another player to give them a fabricated advantage, thus upsetting the natural flow of the game:

from the "Cheating Online" guide:
"feeding/pushing - ...In peer-to-peer games/competition games, you can also “feed” a friend by making characters that will be there to just LOSE, thereby giving massive exp, gold, etc to the cheating team or character. Pathetic!"

I get the feeling this happens in Dom3, given high chances that we will both make allies and lose. Maybe we don't _make_ the nation to lose, but it happens, and when it does some give away all their stuff. If your not going to play out to the bitter end, then you at least shouldn't give away stuff to another nation. I think such is questionable behavior at best, and should generally be considered cheating or at least disruptive in Dom3.

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Omnirizon:

If you are killed it is natural thing that you give your remaining gems, items etc to your ally. Why would you let them just disappear? They can be used to harass the one that killed you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

But what is going on anyway?

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why would you give them away when your hoping to become god?

and the whole action introduces possibility for metagaming.

"I give all my stuff away to this guy in a game, now this guy likes me and we get along and can watch each other's backs in another. I don't like this guy, so I give away stuff to make sure he has a harder time in game."

I mean it is just a game, and not all that important. But it seems we should behave in ways that are going to keep the games as balanced as possible.

I think I'll start a poll and see what others think. It's kind of interestng.