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Wanna bet a concession on it? I'll show you my turn, but then you have to go AI. =)

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Damn, there goes my perfect plan...
I'll have to do it the old fashion way now, gold, gems and item support for those who declare war on Ulm and Pangaea.

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What hosting we will have for Christmas? I think we can do 2 turns before.

P.S. What's Ultimate Gateway?

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Executor:

I don't think there are many people left to bribe :) I am disappointed in Mari/Pyth team, I expected much more from their turtling.

And Micah did an amazing job in that game, but still too early to congratulate him :)

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What? No praise for Ulm's cute little sidekick, Pangaea?

I'm insulted.

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Nah, I don't put up much hope for this game anyway, Jomon was pretty weak when I took over.

Ultimate gateway - 50% conjuration bonus.

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Surrender?

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Could I get a 24h extension? It's Christmas preparation time and it's hard to find enough time to sit in front of computer and do the turn properly.

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Ulm will take the lead and agree to Pangaea's demands for surrender, it's been hard fought, but we really think his team deserves to win. Anyone else with me? =)

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For that matter could we just go on break until early january?

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You probably need to PM Dr. Praetorious directly if you need an extension. I don't think he reads this post anymore.

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crap, I don't like server games, I started to do the turn, did "quit without saving" with 3 nations to do the turn and some time later came back to do the turn and I got the new turn :/ and it said that my turn won't be submitted, huh

Lingchich:

I PMed him about 10-15h ago.

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Host interval should now be off.

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Alright, in all seriousness at this point Ulm/Pangaea are asking for a concession. We have a total of 188 provinces (almost half the map) as well as 4 discount sites (not the ultimate gateway though, I wasn't lying on that). I just finished my research out this turn, and have well over 300 gems a turn coming in, 65 of them in D, which has led to a proliferation of tartarians. I also of course have the Ulmish forge bonus as well as pretty much all of the artifacts worth having now that I wished my gate stone back. Blood income is something like 125/turn, gold is at 6683 this turn.

I've been destroying TC since I started in on him 3 turns ago, the best he's managed is to hold me to a modest 4 province gain on turn 2 when he was poised for a counterattack. Turns 1 and 3 of the fight both yielded about 15 provinces for me. He's inflicted no significant casualties on me, and I've been spending far less than my monthly income on fighting him, the best he's done is scare off a couple of my SCs and lasted long enough to 50-turn rout a third after losing 25 of his sacreds. (one due to the extra cold weather fatigue and one because I guessed poorly on movement and ran into a pile of mages...that one really should have died, in all fairness, but he got surrounded by TC's phantasmal units that had MR resist attacks and was able to recover from the lightning stun damage. He ended up lasting long enough for a third of TCs mages to kill themselves with their communion before hitting turn limit, so even that worked out alright).

Revolution has pledged to keep fighting rlyeh instead of ganging us, so the possibility of a full-game ganging isn't in the cards, which is the only way we could lose at this point IMO, hence the request, since spending hours on my turns for what has essentially become mop up is not much fun.

Thanks,
-Micah

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Yes, I don't see anyway anyone can stop us. I am quite a bit weaker than Micah, but I am still very strong. And my Vine Armies, more powerful than ever, are moving into enemy lands. I'm ready for a vote count.

Unless you diehards want to fight it out. It will be long, and bloody, and worthless in the end.

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I could use a change of scenery.

Besides, my perception of LA Man and how they ought to be played has changed so dramatically that I just don't enjoy playing this version of them at all. Its more like work then a game at this point.

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As I said to Micah on IRC - if he wins with TC/Jomon/Abysia I won't prolong the game. Even if my nations is theoretically stronger, it can't even partly cover the difference in provs, summoning power etc.

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Abysia has technically already lost, so we dont care if it ends or not.
(but we are still sure, that we would have been able to kill jomon in the end :))

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I am willing to concede to Ulm/Pan...I think it's pretty much up to the eastern alliance on if they think they can still take em/ want to fight to the bitter end.

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I'm not ready to concede yet... I'll let you know in a few turns. Some things are in the cards that could change things a little bit.

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I'm good either way, I've been around here for a dozen turns only so I will not be the one to prolong this game if it becomes a fruitless battle against Ulm.

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If you want to surrender to me though I'd be happy to accept :D

Yeah, I cannot even come close to you in Gem income but I see weakness in your attacks and if I can survive a few more turns I will be able to turn it against you and kill most or all of your SC's that I have seen. I relied too much on my Sacred units and that has nearly been my downfall. I had hoped that with a D9 bless they would be able to take on SC's much more effectively but that is not the case here particularly with Tartarains when Afflictions chance is based on %dmg of Total hitpoints taken.

Anyways the next few turns could be fun. If you break my back though I have no problem conceding and getting on to the next game. But you have not done that yet.

Ive learned from this game that taking a huge bless while taking bad scales is not good in a map this large. In a smaller map where you can finish everyone off quickly or at least had Non capital sacred troops to recruit it would serve you much better. But Capital only sacreds and the worst possible scales combined Is not good when the map is large enough for people to get into the late game magic especially when you have horrible drain and crappy research. But at least Ive learned something here.

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Oh, fiesty.

Well, I think you're sorely mistaken, but I don't mind proving it if you're really convinced you can stage some sort of comeback. I made my request, it's well within your rights to refuse it if you believe you have good grounds for it, so let's settle this in-game. I'm kind of curious what you're planning, but of course you can't really say at the moment...Mind enlightening me when the game's done if it doesn't become evident shortly?

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It will become evident shortly...

Although I still have absolutely no means to match your insane gem income but I'm not going to just give up without a fight and the fight has barely started.

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Are we going to play another turn over the holidays? Looks like the timer is off, but 5 nations yet to turn in. It would be nice to get one turn in over the holidays, anyway.

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Holiday bump. Hey you have some free time, I know. Do a turn.

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Well, it looks like not everyone is going to do their turn, and so, after the 1st, this game will probably be set back to 48 hour timer. So, we can expect the next turn due on Jan. 4th? Kind of Lame, but OK.

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I'll turn the timer back on whenever requested. Most other games seem to be restarting at about the 1st or 2nd.

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I should do the turn tomorrow. That yesterday party was crazy.

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OK DrP. Thanks. Could we turn the timer on again on the 1st? I think a week long host should do for most of us.

Damn, I so wish to get into the fight. My ally is taking everything.

Must I cast the Spell??

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The Make Sammich spell? Yes, get on that.

=)

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Yes, sammiches will rain down on all the kingdoms of the world. Mostly ham, but some turkey sammiches too.

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I PM'd DrP to turn turn the timer back on. Hopefully it will be back on today. Time to get this game over.

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Timer should be set to 48h now.

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Combined Ulm/Pan province count: 195

Are we done now that the brilliant TC "Call of the Winds" spam strategy has failed?

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Huh, I was sure I have more time to submit my turn. Crap.

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Well, I am sweeping into former Marignon territories this turn. So the prov count will only go greater. No one is attacking me or defending against me.

I would say the game is done, but will wait until Psi has his say. It would be kind of cool to finally see my vine armies in action.

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Please let us know, PsiSoldier, if you are continuing the game.

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Could I get 24h extension? I staled last turn and I have big mess to clean and not enough time.

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T'ien Ch'i
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"The province contains about 190 hostile units. The army consists of Mainly Demon Knights, Zweihanders, Ghoul Guardians, Rangers of Ulm, and Earth Gnomes. 7 Huge Tartarian Titans were seen towering over the army. Several Monstrums could be seen flying over the army camp. The province has not organized any local defense. There is a Fortified City located here. The fortified City must be sieged and conquered if we are to take full control of this province."

Ulm is up one more capitol. Its pretty ridicules once tartarian start being used as chaff units.

Edit: For those of you with a limited perspective, I've attached an image of the map with just flags and forts. This is basically what I'm seeing.

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I don't ask for concessions lightly. I'm pulling in almost 100 D per turn and sitting on a 20% conj site, so that's 12 tartarian summons a turn (more like 6 in reality so I can pop off 12 ghost riders or so though). I also have the steel ovens, on top of Ulm's forge bonus, so I'm paying 40% of base price with hammers. The Hammer of the Forge Lord means I can make a ring of wizardry for something like 10 pearls.

I think I just took TC's cap without a single casualty. They routed on turn 2 or 3, and my casters decide not to burn gems on the fight if that tells you anything.

TC hasn't taken a province in the past 2 turns. Nor do I think he's successfully defended one from an assault. I also believe we crossed the 50% province threshold this turn. Can we please call this game now? I feel like I'm playing SP.

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Well, I just had a look at Micah's turn, and I believe he could easily defeat all remaining nations, including me, his ally, quite easily. His forces are ungodly. Half of them aren't even in use.

Time for this game to end folks.

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PsiSoldier has conceded the game to the Ulm/Pan team (in a PM to me).

Good game all.

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I guess we can take a look at each others turns now, as most of us didn't put a password.

I was way too small to do anything - and I don't think I could have done much more to change it. I could of course move and win that war with Bogarus now, but that would change nothing. I had about 4k pop left at my cap - I think R'lyeh is not as strong as people consider it. All that freespawn combined with domkill are rather a weakness because you cannot make good use of them. Aquatic ones are decent, but what? You are not going to use them anyway. And amphibian ones are really really weak. You can try using things like Army of Gold on them, but they eat so much income that you don't have enough gold for blue starspawns, that could cast it in communion. I really think MA R'lyeh is really better nation in mid and late game. And maps in MA usually have much more land [and if you are in mid-game you have 2-3 caps, so gold!].

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Good Game everyone

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Good Game. Congrats to Ulm and Pangaea.