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The Sauromarignon alliance has a Stone Bird and a Cat Charm for sale at forge cost. PM vfb if you are interested.

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I remain in a bit of a bind.

As expected, Caelum has continued raiding - and although Sauromatia is suffering more severe losses than I am (including many summoned troops), he doesn't have a major raiding force on his other border.

I'm not sure what I can do, at this stage of the game, about Caelum's ghost king. Sauromatia is now a pathetic shell - he has poison archers and skeleton spam, but all his melle troops are dead.

Caelum is unreduced, and if no-one else wants to help deal with him, the situation appears grim to our heroes.

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I don't know who else borders with Caelum, but really, you need to understand 2 things - first they are as busy as they're going to get, and second, if you don't cause them problems before they secure another set of capitals, everyone is going to die.

This has been a public service announcement for the "Haven't you seen Alfred Hitchcock's movie _Birds_? Foundation".

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The Sauromarignonian Alliance is as strong as ever. Just because we don't fit Abysia's ideal image of an army, full of plodding infantry perhaps, it doesn't mean we are weak. Abysia's Burning Ones fared very poorly against poison archers and skelly spam this month. It's an effective force.

EA Abysia in its pride refused to negotiate a settlement for the expansion provinces of Sauromatia that it had greedily swallowed up in its overly hasty expansion. EA Abysia was then lucky to attack Sauromatia on a turn where they staled, and until now had taken advantage of that disaster. But now they are paying the price for their hubris.


And now for something completely different:

There is a small chance that some of your nations may be visited unexpectedly by the MA Marignon Inquisition. We apologize in advance for these occurrences, and the Inquisition should not cause you any difficulty whatsoever since they will Return immediately from your lands. It's the nicest Inquisition you'll ever meet!

-- Virtuous, of Sauromarignon

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namad:

I can, if I get a request like that from him.

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Not the comfortable chair!

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I just wish to announce that this turn Abyssia will loose his annointed priests sieging my capital without the possibility to harm my walls, as a breakout of their main sacred infantry failed miserably against my reinforcements.

Abyssia just managed to get to my capital while my main army chased him, arriving 2 turns after him. But now his forces are destroyed, and he shall pay bitter for his ignorance.

Our god shall also soon rejoin this world, a bit wiser about the usage of snake bladder staffs:/

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To be clear:
1) That was not a breakout. I could've played round-and-round the mulberry bush forever if I wanted, except that I knew Caelum was about to jump on my capital.
2) The skelly spam trick only works if you have an enormous infantry army (about 130 units, in the most recent case) which you are willing to lose. With just the archers and skelly spam, the identical army will wipe him out.

That said, my position is certainly dire. What is the best strategy when facing two opponents at once? Don't get in that situation in the first place.

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Bogarus is interested in trading some death gems for a small quantity of fire gems. Please PM if interested.

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Thanks for all the speedy responses! We have all we need at this time.

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The god of Midgard seems to have perished on the field of battle. I smell weakness. <3

;)

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Erm, the propaganda minister of the alliance of wimps (LA Mictlan and Lanka? C'moon, seriously guys) needs to check his facts.

No need to pay for immortal pretender if you don't put the immortality into use.

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more rumors and taunts please

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From the patch progress page:

9th january 2009
* Battles in Inferno, Cocytus and the Void could not be viewed, fixed.
* Various magic items got bonuses on returning from other planes.

5th january 2009
* Forgotten city adventures had broken traps. E.g. the ballista only dealt 1 point of damage.

This should make Preponderance even more exciting ... hope we get a new patch soon!

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hmm.. I don't know about that ballista being broken. It did 299 points of damage in my try outs for this game.

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Oh, damnit, I sent in the wrong turn file last turn :(.

Weren't we about to increase the interval to 48 hrs? I've got a very busy week next week...

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Yeah, the game's on turn 24 already, way past the usual 48h-mark. I'd prefer two-day hosting schedule also quite soon. Pretty please?

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My plan was to set it to 48h on turn 25, so it will be after that turn :)

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Yes, I would be great.

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Oh bosh. Means I'm way behind. I have no problem doing the turn in roughly 20 minutes.

yeouch.

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Ok, switched timer to 48h.

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Any reason why kailasa is not on AI ? he does not seem to be playing (stalling every turn)

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I asked the same question;

When I spoke to executor he said he was going to process his turns, and so I let the matter drop.

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Kailasa should be switched to PsiSoldier so he can at least scarf up all the gems from his dead teammate.

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Yeah I'll take the gems.. Kailasa will not last much longer anyways so not much point in worrying about it his last fort is under siege at the moment.

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I think you need to PM your email address to Zeldor.

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Yeah, I'm not the one that should look at people's teammates. I have changed Kailasa email to the one sent me by PsiSoldier. What happened with Kailasa? They grew extremely big in the beginning, angering some neighbours.

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Probably got heavily ganged upon after a stellar start, and then got frustrated. That kind of thing appears to be happening in other parts of the map, at least if thread posts are to be believed.

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Is there a definitive feeling that we are going to switch to CBM 1.4?

While I like, for example that glamoured calvary got more expensive, and that boulders bypass shields can we get a feeling for whats going to happen Zel?

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There is no updating. Game started with CBM 1.3 will stay that way. The only way to change it in the game would be to make llamabeast replace CBM 1.3 with 1.4 and rename it to 1.3 [and everyone else to do it], and that won't happen. So Prepo stays with 1.3 and Madness will be with 1.4.

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Blah we need to rollback and fix this.. when I tried to do my teammates turn it hit me with a CD key voilation and said it did not execute MY turn orders. That needs to be rolled back, fixed and rehosted so it will execute MY orders. (And preferably the one I submitted for my teammate as well, but if thats not possible then I damn well want MY orders executed at least)

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As I said - contact llamabeast so it can be checked. If I just rehost it may happen again. So get an explanation and PM me, so I can do what's necessary. We have plenty of time till next turn.

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Ok I PM'd Llamabeast, hopefully its something he can fix easily. It would really suck if I had to choose between getting whats left of my teammates gems and gold and getting set back with my own stuff or simply doing my own turn and forfeiting what is left of my teammates things.

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People here had no problem with doing turns from 2 nations. You are sure you used the same machine, dom installation etc to make both files?

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Yep, same computer same installation. Same game folder even which I wonder perhaps if that may have been the problem. although when I did Kalasia's turn I moved my nations files into a backup folder did Kalasia's then submitted them and deleted the files and put my nations turn files back in the folder.

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Hrrrm Ok do the rollback I guess and maybe I'll see if I can get someone else to do Kalasia's turn for me and submit it.

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I wonder if he has a dynamic IP address, and it got changed between doing the two turns. Maybe it's only okay if both turns contain the same IP address or something.

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It's not network game. I would be surprised if smth like IP address would be stored in .2h file. Or if it had a way of checking and putting it there.

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So...
1) Would there be a rollback? People should be notified - they are doing next turns already.
2) If there is a rollback do I need to redo my previous turn?

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I will do it fast and send an email to everyone. It should take about 5 minutes. And no, just next one. I hope no one will get a worse turn.

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I got a worse turn. :shock: :)

Does everyone know they need to delete any turn 26 .2h file they had previously created? Otherwise the game gets really screwed up. When I opened the turn and forgot to delete the old .2h, I could see a magic item that should not exist according to the .trn file. So I deleted the .2h, and everything is normal now.

Edit: Oh, your admin email pretty much said that already. But since you didn't explicitly say to delete the .2h file, I'll leave this post up instead of deleting it.

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I am not home to get my turn. However, I was the victim last turn of 9 remote spells, and 17!! assasination attempts. Of which, only *1* worked.

So I am going to ask for a re-run myself if my turn is significantly horrible. I got lucky once; making me have to be lucky twice doesn't seem fair.

In cases like these I think it should run until all are satisfied the results are reasonable.

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Chris, I'd prefer not to turn this into some sort of Mulligans game. Otherwise we'll just be re-running the turn until everyone is happy with the result, and that's not going to happen if there are any fights going on. And there are obviously fights going on.

The turn was not originally rehosted because someone didn't like the results, it was rehosted because of a bug. No matter what happened in the original turn, like getting a nice magic item, or surviving 17 assassinations, it needs to be treated like it did not actually happen.

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see my response off line

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Didn't know that was a public post. Please delete for reasons I will explain.

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Chris's offline explanation, which he prefers that I do not disclose, does help explain why he wants to re-run the turn.

However, in my opinion, it does not justify re-running the turn. But anyway, it's not for me to decide.

So Chris, I'd suggest you either just publicly post your reasons here, or drop it and move on.

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Personally, I'm opposed to all rollbacks on practical grounds - people inevitably end up failing to replace .2h files or otherwise sending in corrupted turns.

Why is everyone ganging up on *me*? I've am war with both of my immediate neighbors *and* Caelum. Micah is the one with an unhealthy number of MP wins - gang up on him!

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The Bogatyr trading company is proud to announce that its mages have mastered the creation of items of great power (Const 6).

We are happy to make a wide variety of magical trinkets available. More powerful items will run a premium of course, and will also be subject to the availability of our master smiths. Please send specific requests by PM, and we'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Additionally we're trading death gems for earth and/or astral while supplies last.

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Clarification:

Chris, I suggested "drop it and move on", meaning drop your suggestion to re-run the turn one more time, and move on with the game. I wasn't suggesting that you drop out of the game. Sorry, the wording is kind of similar.

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Damn. Seriously worse turn than before. I demand all my stuff back from parties not to be disclosed, provinces I lost due rehost back and enemy units I didn't get to kill this time to die.

:(