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I just PM'ed him. Waiting for a response. Do you want to re-assign Niefelheim to his email and Oceana to mine now, or wait for his return?

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I can do that whenever, but I'll need both your email addresses.

I'm going to postpone another day.

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I`m back yet

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Excellent. If you and Vanishag can PM your email addresses, I can switch the nations around.

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Cool... welcome back majuva. Glad to get this game back on the road. :)

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This game is going painfully slow... I'm quite unhappy with it

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Soooooo... any word on whether we're going to do this turn by the new deadline? I would also like to see things go a bit faster... hopefully we aren't going to have any more events that screw the game up after this.

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Probably not, I hate to say. I'm waiting on an email address so I can switch Neifelheim back to majuva and I assume he'll need some time after that.

Hopefully we can get back on track after that. It's a problem with big games. The more people, the more need for delays, the more chance of stales and problems. The solution is simple: more nations need to be killed off.

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Well, I just got my turn in for Oceana, so there shouldn't be any further delays due to me.

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send me the turn

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Done.

Hopefully we can avoid delays for a bit now. :)

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I'm getting the "turn file is corrupted" message, followed by insta-crash. Can I get the turn resent?

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First, let me apologize for screwing up my sub 2 weeks ago and delaying the game. I've never used a sub before and I can't believe I didn't give Baalz my password. So my apologies for delaying the game.

Second, I'm outraged that foul Oceania would declare war on the world by flooding the coastal provinces. I hope folks will work together to banish such a loathsome nation that is reducing income for everyone. Who knows what other foul spells they'll cast?

Finally, is Vanheim doing as well as the hall of fame makes it look? They wiped out Sauro right? How many capitals do they have?

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Thanks to Sil for putting up a good fight as Sauromantia. The reason that I have so many entries in the hall of fame is that thugs were the best way I had to combat hordes of androphrag archers hiding behind large quantities of PD. Vanheim national troops are both expensive and incredibly vulnerable to poison (and I didn't have arrow fend/storm yet). Thugs seemed to work pretty well, in that the slightest hitch in unit orders didn't lead to them getting poisoned to death or routing in a few turns, but I had to get to critical mass to make the final push to his cap. Once I was comfortably safe from poison, Sauromantia switched to skelspam, so I racked up kills banishing away hordes of skeletons, not to mention damage control from some really ill-timed barbarian uprisings.

I have not taken any non-Sauromantia province (and they weren't too big) and there are definitely other nations that you should be more worried about at this stage of the game. ;)

Also, Kailasa is AI? Did that happen recently? Are they almost dead?

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Thx...couldn't remember if you also dismantled Agartha. It's a bit disconcerting to see the entire HOF either gods or Vanheim and wanted to some info from that part of the world!

Hmm..I guess Kailissa just went AI. They are down to 1 province that's been undersiege for many turns so they're trapped. Their capitol has been long since plundered by Abyssia.

So I think 4 capitols(kail, Sauro, ermor, Agartha) are gone and no nation has more than 2.

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Niefelheim got Agartha pretty early on. I'm not sure who took Ermor, but I think they've had that cap for awhile too. And yeah, when I noticed the HoF a few turns ago I thought "holy crap." Although honestly, I could do without "Unequaled Obesity" on some of my thugs.

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Caelum took Ermor, though Abyssia took more provinces. And I grabbed a couple, too. :)

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haha i was going to do that too :P

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I figured you might: that one was for you, DarkSha.

...this doesn't mean that I'm going to play nice from here on. I *like* the fact that Oceana doesn't have any treaties. :evil:

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Should we continue with current turn in light of Pan situation? Have you tried emailign the turn to someone else to see if anyone can open the turn?

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We haven't been able to resolve Pangaea's corrupt turn issue.

The only options I see are to wait for llama to come back and see if he can do anything or to rollback the turn and try again.

I hate to suggest another rollback after our last fiasco, but it may come to that.

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ok..I'm going to hold off on submitting my turn. I'd prefer not to waste more time and some big micro orders if we may get a rollback again.

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Oh god please not another rollback... I'll send gems to Pangaea if it means they'll accept a stale instead of rolling this game back again. Shall we take up a collection? Anything but another rollback!

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That's a thought. TwoBits what do you think? How much will a stale hurt? If you're not actually at war one turn might not be that bad?

Regardless, I'm not going to do anything tonight, so I'm going to push it back a day in the hopes a miracle answer will appear.

We do need to get this game moving before it dies though.

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I'd take a stale rather than a rollback any day. But I'd still like to hear from Llama first, and see if he has a solution.

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I'll loan a dwarven hammer!

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Hey, if people want to me with gifts so as Pangaea will suck up a stale for the team, I wont say no :D

But I'd like to know what the problem is that is happening, before going down that road. I mean, say I stale, and then get another corrupt turn file?

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I don't really have an answer for that. All I can do is hope.

There really isn't much we can do to diagnose the problem without llama, and I don't know when he's going to be back.
If it isn't a one-time corrupt turn we could still rollback to this or the previous turn if necessary. (I think llamaserver lets you go back more than one turn. Not sure about that though.)

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Hm, I think if we did another rollback, especially a multi-turn rollback, a lot more people would be walking away from the game, and I don't want to be the cause of that.

Just kind of bad timing Llama seems to be out of town at the moment. So here's what I suggest: There's 5 other players who don't have their turns in yet. If they get their turns in, and Pangaea is the last to go and Llama still hasn't returned, go ahead and force the turn (and if other players feel generous and want to take pity on me by sending some gold/gems/items - and lets face it, staling at this point in the game really sucks :( - I would certainly appreciate it :D ).

But if after that, I get another corrupt turn file, I don't know what we'd do. Heck, without access to my turn, I couldn't even turn Pangaea AI! I'd be out of the game in effect, and there wouldn't even be an incompetent AI defending the place - it'd be a total free-for-all for all Pangaea's neighbors.

Has this ever happened to anyone else in an MP game before (to them or to another player)?

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Alright then, I wish I had a better solution, but I'm going to let this turn host on the current schedule and hope this problem goes away.

If it doesn't, then we're in trouble. We'll have to either put the game on hold to wait for llamabeast to get back and see if he can do anything, or continue with an ever-staling Pangaea.

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Sent some gems/slaves/spare magic items to try and ease the hurt. Thanks for taking one for the team, Pangaea. I hope that some other nations who aren't actively at war with you will pitch in, because forced staling really sucks!

Edit: I also hope that anyone at war with Pangaea doesn't take advantage of the fact that he is definitely not moving troops this turn to get some cheap victories over his armies (not just a province or two, I'm talking about killing big armies/SCs/etc using the definite knowledge that they wouldn't move). I don't even know if he's at war with anyone, but I wanted to throw it out there. If someone did something like that (when he's taking a stale to avoid hurting the game) then it would hurt their reputation, and I would join others in making sure that their armies lived in fear of mass ritual castings from the other side of the world.

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I sent some gems too. I also sent some mind hunts, horrors, and Dakinis. Hey, we're demons:evil:.

Sincerely,

Lanka

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Fingers crossed and touching wood twobits? :hide:

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It's working! :party:

Let's hope it stays that way. And much thanks to all the generous folks who threw gems or items my way to ease the pain of a stale, it was much appreciated!

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Ugh now something is wrong with my turn file. My pretender has mysteriously dissappeared, without any kind of assassination or seduction. Its an immobile one inside of a fortress, so this really can't be user error. Also about 6 commanders from my capital are also missing. So either Tir has 6 assassins who mysteriously don't generate combat reports on my end, or the game is messing up.

This game has been really frustrating these last few turns, as I can barely tell what is going on anymore with the roll backs and errors.

OH well I will persevere

Edit: My pretender shows up on the commander list in the army screen, but doesn't show up on the strategic map. I don't have hidden researchers on. Anyone think of any other settings I might need to change. My other commanders also show up on the army screen, but i can't give them orders.

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Are you sure that they're not just hidden by a too-large number of commanders? In that case, there should be some really subtle arrows to the right of the commander screen on the strategic map that you can use to scroll up and down the list of commanders; they look like ^ and its upside-down variant. There's also a keyboard command you can use to scroll this list, hopefully someone else will remember what it is. Worst comes to worst, you should be able to find them in the F1 list and select/give orders there.

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If you click on your Pretenders name on the User Interface (directly above where your gem stocks are displayed) the screen will immediately highlight and centre on your Pretender. A nice convenient way to always find your Pretender (if it's still on the map)

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Oh i know about those arrows, I have been using them a while. I will check the F1 list.

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Phear th3 l33t k!lla from Tir! :D Your mages and fountain are currently being interrogated in the dungeons beneath Tir na n'Og, though having slight problem with the fountain, it just keeps bleeding instead of talking..

Joking aside, I know people don't wanna hear about another rollback, but if something's screwy then I won't say nothing against another rollback...

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Just one turn without problems, that's all I ask! :)

At least Pangaea's problem cleared up.
And hopefully Alpine Joe's is just user error. No offense, but those are easier to fix. Hopefully he'll be on the F1 screen and there will be no need for another rollback or other drastic options.
Keep us posted.

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Wow. You just saved me a lot of time. I always thought a scroll bar would make sense... just didn't see it! :doh:

Thanks!

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You can also change the size of the commander icons with (IIRC) "<" and ">", so more of them display at once.

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I have to require an 8 hours delay (though the turn will probably be in earlier), sorry for the inconvenience.

Vacation request Tuesday to Sunday
 

I will be leaving town this upcoming Tuesday without Internet access and will not be back until Sunday night. I know it is a lot to ask to delay the game for that long, so I am wondering if someone could run my position for me?

I am playing Acro.

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Try posting in a separate thread or in the "Games seeking players" sticky.
Most who see it here can't sub for you since they're already playing. :)

If you can, try to get tomorrow's turn in before you leave, especially if you can't find a sub.

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I was going to see if there was a possibility of a short extension since 2 players didn't have their turns in and it's Labor Day in the USA (i.e. people might not be thinking about it) but I see it's set to Monday now... I think it was set to Sunday before, though... anyway, if it did change and I'm not crazy then thanks, admin. :)

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I bumped it up 8 hours, per Amonchakad's request.
2 people did still stale though.
I wouldn't have pushed it back any further though, since I was out.

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I did get the last turn in, but I don't think I will be able to find a replacement at this point as I am leaving tomorrow morning. Hopefully my neighbors will not attack me while I am gone.

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We have a potential sub for Arco. Pelthin has volunteered.

To slightly complicate matters, I'm going to be away this weekend, from sometime Friday until Sunday evening. I'm not quite sure yet how to arrange for that, since I'm not sure when I'll be leaving.