Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Well... I have three legit copies of the game. I could sub for someone else! :mean:

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Fenriri, named after the wolf that will slay Odin(the all-father) During Rangarok, has been submitted.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Ha.

That's a challenge, then.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Most noobs have been accounted for and I've taken pains to ensure no one on either team had died :rip: before the game started. That being said, it looks like this game is about ready to begin. We now are waiting only for Skinu (Caelum) and myself of course. I am now sending in my pretender.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Skinu is most definitely alive and as of today was discussing pretender options on the noob forum. So you can be assured he is alive and will hopefully be submitting a pretender soon.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Since he's having trouble, we'll submit one for him:
Mr Pibb, the Sky Lord
Awake Wyrm, Domstr 10, 5E4D4N, Turmoil 3, Prod 3, Cold 3, Death 3, Misfortune 3, Magic 1.

The earth, death and nature boost his protection, fear and regeneration (respectively).

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Well my Pretender is: Dwyn

The Celtic god of love.

So does that mean that you are going to send me flowers?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/06/...rhic-for-some/

"Hate is a kind of love"

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

I've just recieved an e-mail from Lingchih who has asked me to pass it on to the vets:

"Vets, it's me Lingchih. I'm having some trouble with my computer and have lost most of my passwords, including my password for the Shrapnel Forum and the Noobs vs. Vets Team Vet Forum. Can you guys please give Septimius my Vet Forum password and login information so that he can send it to me. Thanks. Sorry for the inconvience. I hope to be back on soon. Go vet team, go!"

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Erm, no-one can see that information except him. Not even admins. You know, basic security stuff?

Just tell him to log in with different login.

Or come to "the usual place" to chat, he'll know.

Or contact me on messenger, he has my contact information.

Sept, seriously?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Umm, err, umm, yeah, seriously. So, like PM me his info right away and/or tell me what "the usual place" is and where and I'll be sure to pass it on to him! Of this you can be sure. You have my assurance on this matter. I guarantee it. Realy and truly. Most assuredly. In all honesty. Yea and verilly, tis the truth.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

What's holding Caelum's pretender? Lets get rolling.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Game started!

Good luck everyone!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Shameful attempt Sept. Really shameful.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Sometimes I wonder if I have any shame.:D

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

Seriously. Jokes of that kind aren't funny nor kosher when you're wearing the game admin hat. Even if you use comic sans.

But, game is on, good luck to everyone!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Pretender Design/Upload
 

I accept your admonishment. But even us admin's deserve a laugh from time to time. No harm done.

Yes, good luck and may the best team prevail. Don't forget the trash talkin', TwoBits was right, it is quite enjoyable!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Hey, i'm new here.
I have registrated for the game this week (marignon) and i did not know that i have to report here.
Now i have read that there is still the possibility to join as a alternate player. what do i have to do?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Only waiting for Shiny now...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Wow, that's one heck of a research pretender on eriu. 42 research on the first turn? Your scales must be a shambles.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Well, yeah with an awake great sage rainbow pretender with moderate dominion and low income.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Nothing to see here, move along.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

that's a bit of a push, but eriu does well w/ a heavy mini-bless. 42 just seems a bit excessive :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

We were wondering where that pretender came from. Yes, we've just begun, but you'll probably get a chance to play as an alternate. I'm putting you in as a noob alternate, welcome.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

I see Baalz has mastered the art of being ominous.

Of course, even a stale turn from him would be ominous.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Thank you, i would be glad if it worked.
Sorry for the question (i am really a noob^^), but what do i have to do next? do you want me to send my pretender again? and when may i expect to start playing ?:)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

An alternate is like the 6th man on a basketball team. You don't have a starting position of your own, but if someone who is playing has to sit on the bench you might be asked to play for them.

Already unoptimized went MIA and someone else had to begin playing shinuyama for him on turn1... of course this means you do not have to send in a pretender.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Phase 2 is complete.

Phase 3 Checklist:
* Moxibustion (CHECK)
* ??? (CHECK)
* Profit! (CHECK)
* Eradication, Humiliation of All Enemies (on Schedule)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

What was phase 2?

Moxibustion? :confused:

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

So, for those of us living in the US, this coming weekend is a holiday weekend. In particular, I will be traveling late thursday night and not be back until sometime sunday - which takes me away from my computer. So, I'd like to request the possible delay of an appropriate turn until Monday. (If I get a turn file on thursday early enough to look at it, i'll try to get that turn submitted, so then it'd be the next one I'd want delayed). It may work out that no turns need to actually be delayed, but better safe than sorry.

I'll post again on thursday before i leave with more accurate information about which turn likely needs to be delayed.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Sadly, I feel compelled to second this request. I will also be travelling the exact same days; I do expect connectivity, but I've learned the hard way that nothing is certain.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

If no one else requires a delay, the noob alternates may be available to sub, if not, we will delay approriately.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Well, I can certainly give detailed instructions on what to do. What I need is an automated script to hand out my orders. Heck, I could probably just send my turn file to another n00b player with instructions if you're unwilling to grant the delay. What I really don't want is someone else making decisions that mess up what I'm doing, and I think I'm a lot more comfortable with my units' capabilities than someone who didn't do a bunch of 1st year run throughs will be.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

I think that I'll be able to do my turns over the break - as I expect uninterrupted access while traveling.

However, safest thing to do would be just to shut off the timer over the weekend, and let people QH if available. If the game lags, get alternates to do sub turns for those who haven't submitted turns.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

delaying over the weekend seems reasonable to me. I'll be out of town myself on the 4th. It's only what, an extra 24 hours?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Hey guys, sorry for being out of contact. My computer has received a nasty virus (system security is the DEVIL), and I am reduced to posting in safe mode. I would offer to find a sub, but my internet access is sporatic at best. I'm really sorry about this, and incredibly frustrated at present. When this is all over, I'm excited to play in future games.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

You have a sub (me). Don't worry about it - I get to find out just how awesome Shinuyama is.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

No problem. I can understand how you feel. We will delay appropriately over the weekend. If you, or anyone else who'll be absent most of the weekend feels comfortable with any of the alternates taking your position(s) temporarily, please contact them and arrange it, then let me know. I believe rdonj is also available to the noob team on a limited basis in emergency situations.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

I am available on a very limited basis, if the game will die without a sub.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

So I thought it might be interesting to keep a tally as the game goes on of how much of a gem/gold disparity is racked up. Unfortunately I did not think of this before now, so I don't have the data for turns 1-4.

This is the collective incomes for each team on turn 5:

Team Noob gold income: 12,400
Team Noob gem income: 72

Team Vet gold income: 5,278
Team vet gem income: 32

I'm going to try to keep my information up to date until the end of the game, but I would not be surprised if I miss a turn or two. Anyway, I don't think this information is really going to be all that useful for anything, I just thought it would be fun to know.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

rdonj has gotten me about ready to commit seppuku. Most of the noobs are playing better than me. Then again, some of them might be more experienced than me! I'm only a vet because I was veto'd from being a noob in noobsvvets2... OR maybe when we break into wars I'll be able to make a better showing than I have so far... .i hope... maybe...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

I'm sure you'll do fine by your team, of course you can always call in a more experienced alternate.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

lol. I wouldn't go that far. You're really not lagging behind the rest of your team from what the graphs say, except on research which I think is really just an ashdod thing.

I'll tell you though, the noobs are really in top form this game :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

You seem to be doing fine from the graphs - 7 provinces is a respectable showing (at least I hope so, since that's how many I have ;) ). Its some of the other vets I'm wondering what they're doing.

(Well, I'm also wondering what Baalz is doing, but mostly because he seems to be doing something crazy that is *working*).

And this is my first MP and I've only been playing SP for ~3 wks. Just because we're new doesn't mean we (1) are incapable of reading the wonderful guides provided on this site or (2) incapable of running through the first year a few times to figure out how to expand. It'll be once real battle is joined I'll start to feel inadequate.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Namad, no panicking in public.

Noobs start to think they have a shot at winning or something equivalently ludicrous.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

if I die I will become more powerful than you could ever imagine.










probably by having someone in the community be so sad about it that he was willing to play in my place despite being a great player who would unbalance the game like neos unbalance matrirces.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

Heh, I recall telling a friend how flattering it is to be considered one of the top Dominions players, because there are very few *bad* dominions players. Pretty much only hard core strategy nerds play this game, so you have to respect that a guy who's been playing this for only a couple weeks is probably at least a decent strategist, possibly better than decent.

As to the weirdness...nothing to see here, move along.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

That Baalz's comment brought back memories. I once played a Dom2 game with people new to Dominions but who had been playing VGA Planets (IIRC) for like a decade together. It was really silly, seeing people improve their game almost turn-by-turn basis.

But yeah, this game draws certain kind of people. But still as everywhere there are people who learn fast and those who don't.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

I agree, though the game has so many intricacies and strategic elements, even fast learners cannot master them all that quickly. The vets with massive SP and MP experience, generally do have an edge as a game progesses. Fast learners may quickly grasp somethings but miss others that more careful/more plodding/more methodical/detail oriented learners wouldn't.

I do hope the vets will give us noobs a good show this time around, even though I know the main purpose is education. Adding more experienced players to the vets side would actually bring the game closer to the ideal rather than unbalance things, and both teams still have alternate slots available.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Let's get it on!
 

i think the vet team needs a game admin... so we can appoint our own emergency alternates or some such? thoughts?