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Gandalf Parker August 28th, 2010 08:16 PM

Re: STACKERS, newbie game, (started)
 
Allright. Ctis is AI.
I hope everyone was ready for that. Quite a buildup there, and now the dam breaks.

Jorus August 29th, 2010 08:53 AM

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Uh-oh. :doh:

Go north, AI, go north.

Nauquan August 29th, 2010 09:36 PM

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He-he - This will be interesting. I see a couple thousand troops near my southern border.

Jorus August 30th, 2010 06:40 AM

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I guess I'm lucky then, I only see 400 new troops on my northern border. On the other hand, he has attacked several of my provinces during the magic pahase, and captured an internal one. Also has cast plagues and winter (not too much of a problem for us cold loving people) on several provinces.
A very anti-social AI.
BTW, what do these dire portents mean? I don't see any new globals? Or were they dispels?
And an idle question, according to the score graphs - he lost research. How do you do that?

Jorus August 30th, 2010 06:29 PM

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Gandelf,

Is it possible to see my previous turn somehow? I have been devastated by the loss of units with costly/powerful/rare items (e.g. Rings of S/W). I thought they were present last turn, yet I don't see them (or reports of their demise) anywhere.
On top of all that, after spending almost two hours on my current move the computer crashed. All was lost.
This is very discouraging.
The lack of saved turns is a nuisance (and yes I know I could do it myself, but why then do we have computers??).

Gandalf Parker August 30th, 2010 11:43 PM

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email me at gandalf on community.net and I can send you the games backups

Nauquan August 31st, 2010 11:28 AM

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I took out Absyia's pretender who had at least one global up. I figure some of C'tis global casters died due casting spells and suffering horrors from the astral corruption before it was dispelled. I have been hit with a few rituals too - not sure where they are coming from.

Jorus August 31st, 2010 01:45 PM

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Gandelf,

Thanks, OK I'll do that.

Nauquan,

Well the strange thing is that I got two "Dire Portent" messages announcing Global spells, but they don't show up on the Global list. And Astral Corruption disappeared.

I lost my Pretender 2 turns ago - although I cast Returning, he may not have had the astrals necessary (although he had access to many in the lab) - that should be automatic, but it was my fault. I'm not a micro-manager.

Now last turn I lost my secondary Pretender/champion who I am sure had astrals and was casting returning. I'm 99% sure he was there last turn, but now he is disappeared w/o a trace/report.

Anyhow, back to the move.

J

Gandalf Parker August 31st, 2010 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nauquan (Post 756025)
I took out Absyia's pretender who had at least one global up. I figure some of C'tis global casters died due casting spells and suffering horrors from the astral corruption before it was dispelled. I have been hit with a few rituals too - not sure where they are coming from.

All 3 of those things could cause globals to be announced but not appear.
The games coding is very linear. When someone casts a global, the message is created. If something else later in the turn sequence takes out that caster then the global might be removed but not the message IIRC.

EDITED:
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Turn_resolution
Note that the casting of globals occurs on step 5, and the actual effects of globals is figured into the game on step 16

Jorus September 1st, 2010 11:49 AM

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Ctis has started his move south by taking 2 out of the 3 provinces he attacked. No sign (yet!) of Tartarians. I wonder if there is a guide anywhere about successful strategies against an AI. What is he doing in the north?

Is there any cooperation we can do? I took two provinces from Ryleh, but his count remained the same - does that mean he is moving south also?

J

Nauquan September 2nd, 2010 08:49 AM

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Since it is just the two of us, can we extend the turns to three or four days? Please.

Now about that Illwinter... This is not the spell to cast if you want some cooperation :)

Jorus September 2nd, 2010 09:23 AM

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I have said some time ago that I am happy to adjust the server timing to anything the other players want. Still feel the same. Just make a concrete proposal (e.g. 3 or4 days) to Gandelf, maybe also by e-mail.

Illwinter: Yeah, I felt bad about it, I don't even know whether Ashdod likes cold or not, but I know Ctis doesn't - and he is the more immediate concern. Besides, you knocked out my Astral collection spell. :shock:

J

Nauquan September 2nd, 2010 11:30 AM

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Gandalf,

Can we extend the turns to 96 hours from now on? There is just two of us left.

I'll send a PM too.

Thanks.

Gandalf Parker September 2nd, 2010 11:53 AM

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OK its been extended

Jorus October 3rd, 2010 04:49 PM

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Nauquan,

You've missed several turns now, are you prepared to concede? :D

I would like to play this out, so if you plan to

1. quit - please find a sub or let's put Ashdod on AI and I can practice my end-game skills (which are non-existent).

2. play after missing a few turns, but are just building up gems/whatever - just let us know.

3. start making your moves - fine. 96 hours OK?

In any case, it is a bit annoying that I have to wait for the full 96 hours for you NOT to make a move. Sometimes I'm ready earlier and would like to make back-to-back moves and get this game going.

J

Nauquan October 3rd, 2010 05:55 PM

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Sorry I missed a couple. The first I was almost done and missed the turn, the second I just got busy. I'll try to do better. I really do need the full time to do a turn.

Jorus October 3rd, 2010 07:04 PM

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No problem, if 96h is not enough - we can go longer. J

Jorus October 11th, 2010 10:30 AM

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I will be travelling for the next two weeks and although I can make my next move by Wednesday, it will be questionable after that.

Gandelf - is it possible to remove the time limits during this period? In other words, the turn only happens when we both get moves in.

Nauquan - is that acceptable to you?

J

Nauquan October 11th, 2010 01:38 PM

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Gandolf, please give Jorus any extension that he needs. Thanks.

Jorus October 29th, 2010 11:55 AM

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We can return to a schedule, thanks for your cooperation! J

Nauquan October 30th, 2010 01:32 PM

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Do you want to leave it like this and see how it goes? As long as we take turns every few days this might be more convienent.

Jorus October 31st, 2010 08:32 AM

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Sounds good, let's give it a shot. Maybe we can wrap this up in 2011?

Nauquan October 31st, 2010 08:40 AM

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Probably. YOu still have a lot of lizards to kill :)

Jorus November 1st, 2010 12:54 PM

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These HOT lizard sanwiches are getting a bit tiresome, and sickening, but we shall continue.

The ball is in your court...!

J

Nauquan November 3rd, 2010 12:44 AM

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We are collecting all the balls and hope to play with them soon.

Jorus November 5th, 2010 03:41 PM

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Ping!

Don't mean to push, but just preenting opportunities. I could probably get another move out today, otherwise it will have to sit until Tuesday. No problem for me either way....

Nauquan November 5th, 2010 03:43 PM

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Sorry - can't do my turn till the weekend.

Nauquan November 7th, 2010 11:41 PM

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Having trouble with the server. It says "waiting for game info" and then hangs after I connect.

Nauquan November 8th, 2010 12:12 AM

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Works now. Thanks or never mind.

Jorus November 8th, 2010 09:14 AM

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Perhaps it couldn't handle so much treachery in one turn? ;)

Seriously, no problem (ethically, that is) with your attack since all we had was an understanding at best. If I were in your shoes I would do the same. You let me take a beating from Ctis on the BF and with his DomKill/disease for a bunch of turns, and as soon as you see the tide turning in my direction - BAM! Masterful.

The next few turns will tell the tale, maybe we won't make it to 2011 after all!

J

PS
After the game is over perhaps you can tell me how Polydamus doubled his HP to 440?

Gandalf Parker November 8th, 2010 09:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nauquan (Post 762216)
Works now. Thanks or never mind.

That might have been me.
I got your message and restarted the game. I think someone was hung in a connection.
Havent pinned that bug down. I think it might be from using the X to kill dom3 instead of the menu to QUIT. Dom3 isnt very good with windowsy things.

Sorry I didnt respond. I was too mind-blank yesterday to type an answer. Health thing.

Nauquan November 8th, 2010 03:56 PM

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You give me too much credit. I had to kill R'leyh first.

I have Gift of Health up - that may be the reason.

Nauquan November 8th, 2010 04:00 PM

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Sorry, I might have caused the problem. I thought I was hung and closed the window.

Nauquan November 14th, 2010 12:54 PM

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Jorus,

If you are going to spend this long crafting the perfect counter-attack, I'll have to spend even longer crafting the counter-counter-attack. :)

Jorus November 20th, 2010 03:28 PM

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Nauquan,

Sorry for the lack of replies - for some reason I was not notified of your comments, and I have not been checking the posts.

Anyhow, your attack made my already interminable movemaking even worse. I finally had the units/armies doing what they were supposed to be doing - and now had to rewrite everything. Plus I knew it was going to be a lot of work, and probably fruitless, so the motivation was not there - apologies.

The last turn was the final nail in the coffin. But I learned some good info - the Claws of Cocytus works as advertised. I should have distributed my Skratti around with blood slaves and pre-scripted for CoC and we would have had more fun.

Anyhow, I concede.

Congratulations on your victory with a rather dramatic conclusion.

Finished in 2010!

J

Nauquan November 21st, 2010 05:50 PM

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Jorus,

I was just teasing you about the time. I really didn't mind.

I am disappointed that you are conceding, though I understand. We really didn't get to see what damage your armies and mages could do to me, as I just grabbed a bunch of undefended territory. I am sure you would have given me a hard time.

I had never seen CoC. Quite effective. No MR roll! 100 Percision! Also, I have grown to hate Astral Corruption.

Thanks for the game. Hope to play with you again sometime.

Nauquan

Nauquan November 21st, 2010 05:59 PM

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Hey All!

I won the first MP Dominions game that I ever played! Noobs rule!

Of course I played Ashdod, so everyone will say it doesn't count.

:)

rdonj November 21st, 2010 10:58 PM

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Nah, we'll just say everyone who didn't gang up on you in that game was a noob.

Which is technically true.

Jorus November 22nd, 2010 06:48 PM

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Rdonji - hard to gang up in a "stackers" map. Especially when he bordered the sea.

Nauguan - Yeah, I was looking forward to some awesome final battles (which is why I concentrated on Ctis), but your sneak attack gutted my economy/gems/dominion. You can't have it both ways...:D
Having said that, you have saved us countless hours preparing for and participating in the apocalypse. Thanks!

J


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